Prenups that pay according to how long couple is married

[JanetRose]

Prenups that entitles a spouse to $$$ depending how long they stay married - why do you think couples do that?

 

[aprilgail2]

Beats me- I am in the mindset that anything you come into the marraige with -money, house etc should be solely your property in the event of divorce and anything accumulated during the divorce is what should be split up. I would have to have a pre-nup stating that my house, money and pension remain mine in case of a divorce....I am not willing to roll the dice on that stuff!

 

[barkley]

my guess is with some they live in states with community property laws that say absent a pre-nup everything is split 50/50 no matter how short the marriage is. so-if one or both parties have significant premarital wealth they may want to protect themselves from someone who may seem ideal but just has the intent of getting legaly married to them to lay claim to their assetts.


of course they could always go the route that it's rumored khloe kardashian and her new 'husband' have-get the marriage license, have the wedding, procliam yourself as married, but don't file the license so you're not legaly wed-and wait to do so while your lawyers hammer out the pre-nup. given how short their aquaintance was prior to becoming engaged the odds are they could break up before the pre-nup is ever completed and their marriage becomes legal.


it seems recently allot of celebs are announced to be newly married, only it's later revealed that the marriages are not legal in their state or the u.s. (often the case with ones done in foreign locations where if you don't fill out the appropriate u.s. paperwork it's never valid here).

 

[happygirl]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I think the sort when you get a $ amount per year of marriage is necessary when one person is of questionable moral character and wants to marry a person of superior moral character. The person of better morality is likely to end up alone, but willing to try anyway. So it's sort of an insurance program usually for the woman and any children she may have. I suppose some men might be the beneficiary of it but it's probably pretty rare.

The other kind of pre-nup where assets are just divided ahead of time is probably necessary to scare off the gold diggers of both genders. Look at Paul McCartney, poor guy

 

[aprilgail2]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

Just because its the happiest time in your life its no reason to walk around with rose colored glasses on and not look out for your future.

 

[Darcy03231]

Its usually done when one party has a lot more assets than the other party that they acquired before the marriage and/or one party makes a lot more than the other. This way, if the marriage ends, its clearly outlined what the other party is going to get. Lets face it, things can get ugly in a divorce and can get even more so when a lot of money/assets are involved.

 

[barkley]

Just because its the happiest time in your life its no reason to walk around with rose colored glasses on and not look out for your future.

likewise some people have learned hard lessons in their past that have educated them such that they don't want themselves/new spouse/family to experience.

i know of 2 cases where pre-nups were involved b/c of past issues-

with one it was 2 senior citizens. the man (widowed) had seen far too many of his friend's pass on and their widows remarry only to subsequently divorce and lose 1/2 of what they/their dh's had worked all their lives for. when he remarried he insisted that a prenup be drawn up saying neither he nor his children could have any claim to his new bride's premarital assetts. all his premarital assetts were exempt from his new bride and her adult children as well. all that was aquired during the marriage would be evenly divided. it protected both of them.

with the second, it has'nt yet happened but if my friend ever remarries she will have one iron clad b/c the first husband, unbeknown to her, drained all their accounts and racked up hundreds of thousands in debt which. he had no qualms about avoiding creditors but she worked her tush off for years and years to try to arrange repayment and retain a decent credit score (her job depended on it). it's taken her decades to pay it off, and get her own home (first one was lost due to the debt the ex had racked up) and some savings.
if she ever remarries it will be with a prenup that keeps everyone's assetts separate and won't allow for anyone to use their marital status as a basis to legaly obligate her for her husband's individual financial misappropriations.

 

[Acklander]

I'd assume that the amount would increase over the years because your contribution to the marriage increases over the years. A "gold digger" will only hang around for a few years and move on, but if a person is in the marriage for over 20 years, their contribution to the health and happiness of the relationship is a lot larger, so the pre-nup will reflect that possibility.

 

[Sleepy]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

People change. Of course, nobody wants to think about that when they are in the glad fog.

 

[disney1990]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

I have had some of my closest friends divorce -- deeply religious people who never believed in divorce. Friends were shocked when 2 of these couples split up.

I think people need to go into marriage with both eyes open. I was burned badly in my first marriage, my husband took money from our joint checking and savings accounts after we separated. For the first 10 years of my second marriage, we had totally separate checking and savings accounts. Now, after being together 30 years, it's a different story. During those early years, I also had to make sure that my child from my first marriage was totally protected if something should happen to my second marriage.

 

[castleview]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

I don't know about that. DH and I don't have a prenup because neither one of us had much before we got married. But with people getting married later after having accumulated some possessions, I can understand it. You never know what can happen.

 

[Imzadi]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

Prenups aren't for the happiest time of your life. They are for the possible, upcoming worst time of your life. They are like health insurance policies. No one wants to buy insurance or to think bad things will happen when they are sound, healthy & happy. Likewise, most people don't see the ugly, vile, evil side of a person during the happy times. That side usually comes out when the happy times are over.

As someone who works with abused women, they often don't see the punch until after they've been hit. It's naive to believe the "happy person" is all there is. Any psychologist, profiler, police officer, security expert, or divorce lawyer will tell you that.


As for these kinds of prenups, I am all for them. If someone's been in a marriage for 7 years, and invested themselves, their time and energy into it for 7 years, they should definitely get more than if they were in it for only 3 years.

I once read that Catherine Zeta Jones has a "bad boy clause" with Michael Douglas. He was known to have sexual proclivities that helped end his first marriage. That he had a real bad boy streak during his Basic Instinct and Fatal Attraction days that weren't all make believe. Douglas helped popularize the term, "sexual addiction." (Now, it's probably be called being Tiger Woods. ) Zeta Jones knew full well about his reputation. She actually helped tone down his reputation by being with him.

Allegedly, Zeta Jones gets another few million if they divorce, on top of what was agreed upon, if he's been proven to have been cheating. And for every 3 years they've been married, the payout goes up percentage-wise according to how long they've been married.

 

[disney1990]

Prenups aren't for the happiest time of your life. They are for the possible, upcoming worst time of your life. They are like health insurance policies. No one wants to buy insurance or to think bad things will happen when they are sound, healthy & happy. Likewise, most people don't see the ugly, vile, evil side of a person during the happy times. That side usually comes out when the happy times are over.

As someone who works with abused women, they often don't see the punch until after they've been hit. It's naive to believe the "happy person" is all there is. Any psychologist, profiler, police officer, security expert, or divorce lawyer will tell you that.


As for these kinds of prenups, I am all for them. If someone's been in a marriage for 7 years, and invested themselves, their time and energy into it for 7 years, they should definitely get more than if they were in it for only 3 years.

I once read that Catherine Zeta Jones has a "bad boy clause" with Michael Douglas. He was known to have sexual proclivities that helped end his first marriage. That he had a real bad boy streak during his Basic Instinct and Fatal Attraction days that weren't all make believe. Douglas helped popularize the term, "sexual addiction." (Now, it's probably be called being Tiger Woods. ) Zeta Jones knew full well about his reputation. She actually helped tone down his reputation by being with him.

Allegedly, Zeta Jones gets another few million if they divorce, on top of what was agreed upon, if he's been proven to have been cheating. And for every 3 years they've been married, the payout goes up percentage-wise according to how long they've been married.

Or in the case of some Hollywood couples, 3 MONTHS.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I HATE Prenups. I think if you are thinking about a prenup in the happiest time in your life. Then you are marrying the wrong person.

I disagree. When I was with my ex we discussed a prenup, I told him I'd sign one if he wanted me too, (he had a lot more money then me,) he told me I didn't have to. Anyway, we ended up breaking up before we even got married, so it didn't really matter. But, lots of things change, and I think prenups are a good thing.

 

[Imzadi]

Or in the case of some Hollywood couples, 3 MONTHS.

Ah, yes, marriages in Hollywood are like dog years - or now - Tiger years.