Pre-K bullying

[SnowWhite607]

No I don't. I could tell story after story about things I witnessed, things that happened to me and things I was involved in growing up.

The only difference is there are new forms of bullying due to technology. And I don't think these new forms are worse, just different.

I also think now a days, people are more likely to scream "BULLY" but that doesn't make it so.

Hm, interesting. I wasnt challenging, just asking. I was just making an observation based on what I have seen in the past 10 years or so.

I am sorry you had to go thru bad times as a kid. Those kinds of things stay with you for a long time. I have a friend who can still break out in tears when she talks about being bullied for her weight and it was almost 30 years ago.

 

[EMom]

It was probably a combination of the volume and catching the kid in the act. Catching a kid in the act of doing something wrong is enough to bring about that look of being scared.

That's the way I took it. Little Pusher probably isn't used to being caught in the act, let alone called on the carpet immediately by someone in a stern voice of whatever volume. I'll wager he's not an angel in the classroom, either. When he pushes, he probably gets the, "That wasn't nice. How do you think that made Johnny feel when you pushed him? Would you like it if someone pushed you?" If he's like half the kids, he hears, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..." and is thinking, "Sheesh....Get it over with so I can get back to the slide already." Come on, he KNOWS pushing isn't nice, but he did it anyway. By 5 years old, you should know to not push.

DD went to preschool since she was 2 and hardly any kids were agressive like this. Most were taught by their moms with a firm, "NO!" that pushing was not acceptable, followed by removal from the playground. Take the kid's playground privleges away for a while and explain why and maybe he'll have some incentive to stop pushing. Explain the error of his ways for 90 seconds and let him back on the slide and......well, good luck with that.

I can't blame the mother of the kid who was pushed. I would not take kindly to some bully (and yes, I think the kid is a bully) pushing my child TWICE within a short period of time, once being at the top of a slide, which is very dangerous. A few terse words probably did that kid a world of good. It sounds as if no one ever let him know before, in no uncertain terms, that his behavior was unacceptable. I'll also bet he does not bother that kid again.

I probably wouldn't have yelled since I am not a yeller. But a stern warning and a severe evil eye.......Yeah, he'd have gotten that. Forget waiting for the teacher. I saw it, she didn't. And a warning from the victim's mommy carries more weight, IMHO. BTW, if my DD had been the pusher and some mother took her to task....Well, that's what she gets for being a bully. Bad things happen when you're a bully. I expect other parents to let me know if DD misbehaves.

The bully wasn't damaged for life and may have learned a lesson. The victim saw his mommy stick up for him. The teachers now have a heads up that they have a pusher on their hands and they need to watch him. When I was a kid, if ANY mother saw us misbehaving, we were fair game for a reprimand. We knew that and it did have an effect on our behavior. Too many kids today know that their parents are of the "my child is an angel and no one had better ever get on to him" and they take full advantage. Now that Little Pusher knows there are eyes watching him, he may straighten up a little. And that's a good thing.

 

[twinmomplus2new]

Yes indeed property would include my car. I was writing in a conversational tone. Not aware that It was worthy of syntax check.

 

[SnowWhite607]

That's the way I took it. Little Pusher probably isn't used to being caught in the act, let alone called on the carpet immediately by someone in a stern voice of whatever volume. I'll wager he's not an angel in the classroom, either. When he pushes, he probably gets the, "That wasn't nice. How do you think that made Johnny feel when you pushed him? Would you like it if someone pushed you?" If he's like half the kids, he hears, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..." and is thinking, "Sheesh....Get it over with so I can get back to the slide already." Come on, he KNOWS pushing isn't nice, but he did it anyway. By 5 years old, you should know to not push.

DD went to preschool since she was 2 and hardly any kids were agressive like this. Most were taught by their moms with a firm, "NO!" that pushing was not acceptable, followed by removal from the playground. Take the kid's playground privleges away for a while and explain why and maybe he'll have some incentive to stop pushing. Explain the error of his ways for 90 seconds and let him back on the slide and......well, good luck with that.

I can't blame the mother of the kid who was pushed. I would not take kindly to some bully (and yes, I think the kid is a bully) pushing my child TWICE within a short period of time, once being at the top of a slide, which is very dangerous. A few terse words probably did that kid a world of good. It sounds as if no one ever let him know before, in no uncertain terms, that his behavior was unacceptable. I'll also bet he does not bother that kid again.

I probably wouldn't have yelled since I am not a yeller. But a stern warning and a severe evil eye.......Yeah, he'd have gotten that. Forget waiting for the teacher. I saw it, she didn't. And a warning from the victim's mommy carries more weight, IMHO. BTW, if my DD had been the pusher and some mother took her to task....Well, that's what she gets for being a bully. Bad things happen when you're a bully. I expect other parents to let me know if DD misbehaves.

The bully wasn't damaged for life and may have learned a lesson. The victim saw his mommy stick up for him. The teachers now have a heads up that they have a pusher on their hands and they need to watch him. When I was a kid, if ANY mother saw us misbehaving, we were fair game for a reprimand. We knew that and it did have an effect on our behavior. Too many kids today know that their parents are of the "my child is an angel and no one had better ever get on to him" and they take full advantage. Now that Little Pusher knows there are eyes watching him, he may straighten up a little. And that's a good thing.

Best post all day!

 

[Darsa]

That's the way I took it. Little Pusher probably isn't used to being caught in the act, let alone called on the carpet immediately by someone in a stern voice of whatever volume. I'll wager he's not an angel in the classroom, either. When he pushes, he probably gets the, "That wasn't nice. How do you think that made Johnny feel when you pushed him? Would you like it if someone pushed you?" If he's like half the kids, he hears, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..." and is thinking, "Sheesh....Get it over with so I can get back to the slide already." Come on, he KNOWS pushing isn't nice, but he did it anyway. By 5 years old, you should know to not push.

DD went to preschool since she was 2 and hardly any kids were agressive like this. Most were taught by their moms with a firm, "NO!" that pushing was not acceptable, followed by removal from the playground. Take the kid's playground privleges away for a while and explain why and maybe he'll have some incentive to stop pushing. Explain the error of his ways for 90 seconds and let him back on the slide and......well, good luck with that.

I can't blame the mother of the kid who was pushed. I would not take kindly to some bully (and yes, I think the kid is a bully) pushing my child TWICE within a short period of time, once being at the top of a slide, which is very dangerous. A few terse words probably did that kid a world of good. It sounds as if no one ever let him know before, in no uncertain terms, that his behavior was unacceptable. I'll also bet he does not bother that kid again.

I probably wouldn't have yelled since I am not a yeller. But a stern warning and a severe evil eye.......Yeah, he'd have gotten that. Forget waiting for the teacher. I saw it, she didn't. And a warning from the victim's mommy carries more weight, IMHO. BTW, if my DD had been the pusher and some mother took her to task....Well, that's what she gets for being a bully. Bad things happen when you're a bully. I expect other parents to let me know if DD misbehaves.

The bully wasn't damaged for life and may have learned a lesson. The victim saw his mommy stick up for him. The teachers now have a heads up that they have a pusher on their hands and they need to watch him. When I was a kid, if ANY mother saw us misbehaving, we were fair game for a reprimand. We knew that and it did have an effect on our behavior. Too many kids today know that their parents are of the "my child is an angel and no one had better ever get on to him" and they take full advantage. Now that Little Pusher knows there are eyes watching him, he may straighten up a little. And that's a good thing.

Excellent post here, I agree.

 

[RadioNate]

I do think the reasons behind bullying are different now. In the past we were "taught" that bullies were insecure. That they were mean because it made them feel better about themselves.

Many 'bully experts' agree that kids today are over confident. They have such a big sense of self and ego that they feel they are actually 'better' than their target.

Sad really. And scary because it starts younger and younger. My DS is 8 and a boy but the neighbor girl (who is 2 grades older in school) has been tourtured this year by her "friends." The girl can't win for losing.

 

[ilovejack02]

Best post all day!

Ive been keeping up with this post from the beginning. Astonished at the turn it has taken.
This is the best post the WHOLE thread!!!

 

[Jennasis]

I think the OP's sis was justified and absolutely correct for admonishing the kid. I do it all the time...kids terrorizing my barn cats, throwing rocks at my barn (or each other). If the authority figure in charge of the kid doesn't step up (the parent or whomever), I certainly will.

It takes a village and all.

 

[AlleyKat]

Why is it that the term "Kids will be kids" when used in these types circumstances are usually stated by the trouble makers parents?

Nice to know someone else noticed that too!

It really surprises me with all the post here stating they would be very upset with the parent correcting the pushing boy. I must be crazy, because I would be upset with my child who was doing the pushing.

You're not crazy!

 

[dogluva]

Nice to know someone else noticed that too!



You're not crazy!

I used that quote. My kids have never bullied anyone. I just know that there are some preschool kids that go through an agressive stage. So, yes, kids will be kids. NOt saying it is right but it doesn't mean they are destined for jail.