Pre-K bullying

[Kim&Chris]

 

[Kit'smommy]

I took my child out of K-4 this past January due to bullying issues and his school's poor job of dealing with the issue. It is a shame that any child has to deal with bullying but for it to happen to 3 and 4 year olds is beyond pathetic.

I am glad your sister saw the incident and that it was dealt with.

Good luck to you....

 

[happygirl]

My nephew is in a pre-school program three days a week. He is 3 years old.

Because the weather is nice, the kids are permitted to play in the playground for a few moments before "school" begins. My sister normally drops him off about 15 minutes prior to the start time so he can enjoy the playground (slides, swings, etc).

So this morning she dropped him off, kissed him goodbye and headed back to her car. She just happened to turn around and see another boy push her son off the ladder of the slide, as to allow his friend to go up first. My nephew got up, waited for the friend to go, then proceeded to begin to climb up again. Once my nephew got to the top, the two other kids waited for him to slide down and pushed him away again. Poor thing started to cry, so my sister approached one of the bullies and yelled loudly, right at him "keep your hands OFF him!!". She said she thought the little bully was going to wet himself. Then, of course, the teacher came over and reprimanded the kid and gave him a time out.

I feel so sorry for kids these days. I don't really remember "bullying" until I was in middle school or so. I guess now it starts when they are literally little kids

But I bet that little bully doesn't touch my nephew again

You know kids will be kids. I would have had fit if your sister yelled at my child like that, She had no right to say anything to that child. She should have got the teacher.

 

[MsLeFever]

When DD was in preschool...

I was there for some parent invited event or show or something. I let her have my camera to take photos of her friends. The next thing I see is a group of 4 or 5 girls circling her with one little "queen bee" saying - "let us use that camera or we won't be your friends anymore."

I let them know that it was actually MY camera and it wasn't to be shared - but I was shocked how nasty a 4 year old girl could be!

 

[Kim&Chris]

You know kids will be kids. I would have had fit if your sister yelled at my child like that, She had no right to say anything to that child. She should have got the teacher.

She didn't do anything wrong, and she had every right to reprimand a child that hurt her own child. Don't you think it's a mother's right to defend her own child? Now, if she touched the child, she'd be in a heap of trouble because she'd be wrong, but I think she did the right thing by scaring the poop out of the bully

ETA: The bully was 5...clearly old enough to know how NOT to behave.

 

[java]

Who is supervising them? If she is dropping him off early I would be hanging around until the teacher got there and school started. If school hasn't started shouldn't the parents be the ones supervising? I'm sure the teacher doesn't think this is on her time as the day hasn't started yet. jmho.

 

[Aneille]

ETA: The bully was 5...clearly old enough to know how NOT to behave.

Why is a 5 year old out with a 2/3 year old prek group?

Just trying to understand.

Its the end of the year so your nephew is in a 2/3 year old class and has time with 4/5 old class outside before school?

That would be a 2 year school age difference in my state as kids enter K at 5 years old.

Here it goes 1st year of prek 3/4, second year prek 4/5 then K at 5/6.

 

[Kim&Chris]

Who is supervising them? If she is dropping him off early I would be hanging around until the teacher got there and school started. If school hasn't started shouldn't the parents be the ones supervising? I'm sure the teacher doesn't think this is on her time as the day hasn't started yet. jmho.

There were actually two teachers there, with the kids in the mornings during this pre-start playtime. The kids are permitted to come a bit early so they can play a bit & get a bit of exercise. My sister said the teachers just didn't see it; not their fault at all. They're normally very attentive and careful, they simply weren't looking in that direction at the time.

 

[Kim&Chris]

Why is a 5 year old out with a 2/3 year old prek group?

Just trying to understand.

Its the end of the year so your nephew is in a 2/3 year old class and has time with 4/5 old class outside before school?

That would be a 2 year school age difference in my state as kids enter K at 5 years old.

Here it goes 1st year of prek 3/4, second year prek 4/5 then K at 5/6.

Yes, the kid was 5. I don't know why, exactly, the kid isn't in kindergarten yet. Maybe it's one of those birthday/deadline things? There are probably two or three classrooms out at the same time.

ETA: Just called my sis...this school offers a kindergarten program, so my guess is that this kid was probably in the kindergarten program.

 

[happygirl]

She didn't do anything wrong, and she had every right to reprimand a child that hurt her own child. Don't you think it's a mother's right to defend her own child? Now, if she touched the child, she'd be in a heap of trouble because she'd be wrong, but I think she did the right thing by scaring the poop out of the bully

ETA: The bully was 5...clearly old enough to know how NOT to behave.

No, I don't think she had a right to say anything to anyone else kid. She should have got her child and went inside. If the roles were reveresed and someone had yelled at your nephew for the same thing what they have been okay?

 

[Kim&Chris]

No, I don't think she had a right to say anything to anyone else kid. She should have got her child and went inside. If the roles were reveresed and someone had yelled at your nephew for the same thing what they have been okay?

Well, truthfully, if my nephew was such a monster as to yank a smaller kid off the ladder of a slide, then yes, I could see the mom of the kid yelling at him. Maybe it would make him think twice about doing it again to another child. What's the big deal? I would bet real money that kid doesn't mess with another little kid for long time.

 

[happygirl]

Well, truthfully, if my nephew was such a monster as to yank a smaller kid off the ladder of a slide, then yes, I could see the mom of the kid yelling at him. Maybe it would make him think twice about doing it again to another child. What's the big deal? I would bet real money that kid doesn't mess with another little kid for long time.

I dunno. I don't want a stranger "discpline' my child. To each there own

 

[DreamDelta]

Who is supervising them? If she is dropping him off early I would be hanging around until the teacher got there and school started. If school hasn't started shouldn't the parents be the ones supervising? I'm sure the teacher doesn't think this is on her time as the day hasn't started yet. jmho.

 

[Disney Doll]

No, I don't think she had a right to say anything to anyone else kid. She should have got her child and went inside. If the roles were reveresed and someone had yelled at your nephew for the same thing what they have been okay?

Yes. If my kid had been misbehaving and had been seen by another adult and the adult yelled at him, I'd have had no problem with that. As a matter-of-fact, I'd have thanked the other adult and yelled at my kid again.

 

[mickeyboat]

I think she acted a little extreme, too. There is no reason to make a 5 year old want to wet himself for bad behavior. She should have done what she had to in order to make it stop, and then allow the school personnel to handle the discipline.

If my child had done what this 5 year old did, I would definitely want someone to have spoken to him. But I would rather the discipline be done in the systematic way the day care has promised they would do it, and to which I agreed when I left my child in its care - not by an angry parent.

Be careful when you use the term "bullying," though. Bullying is more systematic than just pushing a kid off a slide a time or two.

 

[mickeyboat]

I dunno. I don't want a stranger "discpline' my child. To each there own

I don't mind a stranger disciplining my child if no other adults were around. But I would not want a stranger disciplining my child if I was right there or if teachers were right there.

 

[NAB]

Well, truthfully, if my nephew was such a monster as to yank a smaller kid off the ladder of a slide, then yes, I could see the mom of the kid yelling at him. Maybe it would make him think twice about doing it again to another child. What's the big deal? I would bet real money that kid doesn't mess with another little kid for long time.

How can you call little kids monsters.... Like someone else said do you ever watch 3-5 year boys play. They play rough. Also have to be told over and over to take turns and share. Even if the parents tell them over and over.

And just because this child looked 5 does not mean he was. My son was always big for his age....very tall. So when he was three he looked 5 or 6.

All boys are aggressive at some point when playing. Having said this it was wrong to push but I think the teacher should have handled it.

Your sister better get used to teachers not seeing all on the play ground too.The rule in our school yard is if the teacher didn't see it it didn't happen and don't tattle tale that is worse.

 

[jrmasm]

I feel so sorry for kids these days. I don't really remember "bullying" until I was in middle school or so. I guess now it starts when they are literally little kids

This is not appropriate behavior but pushing on the playground has been going on since there were playgrounds.

 

[Kim&Chris]

How can you call little kids monsters.... Like someone else said do you ever watch 3-5 year boys play. They play rough. Also have to be told over and over to take turns and share. Even if the parents tell them over and over.

And just because this child looked 5 does not mean he was. My son was always big for his age....very tall. So when he was three he looked 5 or 6.

All boys are aggressive at some point when playing. Having said this it was wrong to push but I think the teacher should have handled it.

Your sister better get used to teachers not seeing all on the play ground too.The rule in our school yard is if the teacher didn't see it it didn't happen and don't tattle tale that is worse.

Oh Lord! I didn't call little kids monsters. I said "if my neph"....oh, never mind.

 

[RadioNate]

I think she acted a little extreme, too. There is no reason to make a 5 year old want to wet himself for bad behavior. She should have done what she had to in order to make it stop, and then allow the school personnel to handle the discipline.

If my child had done what this 5 year old did, I would definitely want someone to have spoken to him. But I would rather the discipline be done in the systematic way the day care has promised they would do it, and to which I agreed when I left my child in its care - not by an angry parent.

Be careful when you use the term "bullying," though. Bullying is more systematic than just pushing a kid off a slide a time or two.

I agree! This is hardly bullying. It is kids being (ill behaved) kids. Bullying is so much more systematic and targeted. The "bad" kid would have pushed any kid who was there interrupting their play off the slide. It just happened that the OP's friends kid was there at the time. Poor behavior but hardly premeditated towards this child.

My neighbor's daughter is being bullied and a one-off incident of being pushed out of the way is nothing compared to the torture that she is enduring.

That said, I do think the mother was right to tell the kids hands off. She didn't need to be psycho but I'd expect a parent say something in that situation if the teacher missed it.

Kids also need to speak up for themselves. The need to say "DON'T TOUCH ME!" "DON'T PUSH ME!" in a loud assertive voice.