Powerball jackpot is $400 million ...however

I said "typical." You might not be typical.

If what you linked is saying that lower incomes play more often, that's not up for debate.

Your statement was that the next day they are much worse off when they lose.

I don't buy it. The average person playing Powerball tonight, will be no worse off tomorrow than then are right now.
 
$400 million dollars is great until it has to be split among many winners. This tends to happen due to multiple tickets drawn withe same numbers.
 
If what you linked is saying that lower incomes play more often, that's not up for debate.

Your statement was that the next day they are much worse off when they lose.

I don't buy it. The average person playing Powerball tonight, will be no worse off tomorrow than then are right now.
They're worse off after they spend the money on the tickets. But they have "hope" until the drawing. After that, they have nothing.
 
man I can't believe this doomsday scenario behind the Lotteries. when did all this happen? you seriously are telling me that there are millions of folks who are left destitute from playing powerball??? I live in Philly maybe 90 minutes from AC, tens of thousands of folks go there to gamble. senior citizens loved the day bus trips, are they also left with nothing.

I seriously never new that the lottery was so nefarious.

I'm starting to feel like I'm back in Catholic school and my two dollar ticket is my first foot into hell

I'm serious, I had no idea my playing powerball was supporting such a horrible system. i'm in a work pool 10 people, we threw in 4 bucks each. i thought that was pretty typical
 
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They're worse off after they spend the money on the tickets. But they have "hope" until the drawing. After that, they have nothing.

I've done scratchers maybe 4 times in the last 15 years, and I've never bought a Powerball ticket. So I'm not defending a personal habit and you haven't personally offended me. But don't you think you are being a bit hyperbolic here? "they have nothing" Really? Nothing? How many people do you think are spending their last $2 on Powerball tickets, and after that they are on the streets? If that were the average, as you say, then I think the problem would have risen to national attention and oh, I don't know, we'd probably have banned the lottery by now as a public welfare issue. Just sayin'.


$400 million dollars is great until it has to be split among many winners. This tends to happen due to multiple tickets drawn withe same numbers.

I think 1/20th of $400 million would still be pretty great! My desires are not so great that I consider 9 figures essential. Heck, $1M right now would be enough for me for the rest of my life.
 
$400 million dollars is great until it has to be split among many winners. This tends to happen due to multiple tickets drawn withe same numbers.

I don't mind that as much as the government who takes 50% of the money right off of the top. Plus when you win taxes eat up another 50%. So at the end of the day they are the big winner getting 75% of every dollar wagered. Even the sleazy pay day loan sharks aren't allowed to steal that much of you money.
 
I've done scratchers maybe 4 times in the last 15 years, and I've never bought a Powerball ticket. So I'm not defending a personal habit and you haven't personally offended me. But don't you think you are being a bit hyperbolic here? "they have nothing" Really? Nothing? How many people do you think are spending their last $2 on Powerball tickets, and after that they are on the streets? If that were the average, as you say, then I think the problem would have risen to national attention and oh, I don't know, we'd probably have banned the lottery by now as a public welfare issue. Just sayin'.
Nothing ... Of value to show for their purchase.
 
DH pitches in at work with anywhere from 12-16 people whenever the lottery exceeds 200 million. The guys have a lot of fun talking about the dream. So do he and I. We have no illusions about our odds. It's just a form of entertainment for a bunch of hard working guys and their families that costs less than renting a DVD from Redbox. DH and I call it "Two Dollar Dreams".
 
Nothing ... Of value to show for their purchase

I have bought stuff for more than $2 and had it break or not work within several hours buying it - so no value for my purchase. Heck I've bought meals out that I paid more than $20 for that I thought showed no value for my purchase - some I decided weren't even worth the calories to eat! :crazy2:

To each his own - we as teachers/staff bought in at school and decided a certain amount would go directly back to the school if we win (we need a new building). :upsidedow
 
Nothing ... Of value to show for their purchase.

Hmmm....earlier you said:

You can't compare a lottery ticket to an experience. At the end of the day, you still have the memories from the experience, and only the disappointment from the lottery ticket. You may want to claim that the lottery ticket gives you enjoyment, but more often than not, it leads to depression. The typical person who spends money on a lottery ticket will be much worse off after the drawing.

So it really does seem like you think it's worse than just losing out on $2. And several people have mentioned fun times sitting around a table with their friends and loved ones dreaming about what they'd do with the money...that's cheap entertainment. But I guess if the worst thing that happens is that after the numbers are drawn they are left with nothing of value to show for their purchase, that's probably okay for a $2 whim and a few chuckles over who would buy $60,000 bottles of water with their new-found fortune. http://www.therichest.com/expensive...pensive-bottled-waters-in-the-world/?view=all
 
I said "typical." You might not be typical.

"Those in the lowest fifth in terms of socioeconomic status (SES) had the highest rate of lottery gambling" (http://journalistsresource.org/stud...inance/research-review-lotteries-demographics)
"[D]esperation motivates lottery consumption" and "lottery participation is strongest among those in poverty" (http://stoppredatorygambling.org/wp...verty-and-the-Demand-for-State-Lotteries1.pdf)

You can't really compare a poor person spending every available dime on a gambling addiction to a middle class person dropping $2 a week on lottery tickets in an effort to have a little fantasizing.
 
$400 million dollars is great until it has to be split among many winners. This tends to happen due to multiple tickets drawn withe same numbers.

Yeah, 'cause I wipe my butt with anything under $100 million.
 
Well, the dream continues. No winning ticket so it will be the highest in history. Most likely over 600 million. BTW, I am willing to share with multiple winners:)
 
Well, the dream continues. No winning ticket so it will be the highest in history. Most likely over 600 million. BTW, I am willing to share with multiple winners:)


Anyhoo, my measly two dollars covers Saturdays drawing also. We did give the person who picked up the tickets a hard time this morning, although he did point out that we won 10 bucks on one ticket.

So it's my turn to buy the tickets for Saturday and we are using the 10 bucks for Dunkin donuts/coffee for Friday. So I guess you could say I'm worse off because I'll be woofing down donuts tomorrow.
 
What I find fascinating is the number of lottery "winners" who end up bankrupt in five years. I think it is close to 50%

If you weren't good handling money before winning, you won't be good afterwards either. I just saw on the news that the average lottery player spends $40 a week so that adds up year after year. I had family members who spent that much or more and had a hard time paying their bills but thought "what's a few dollars here and there". Well $160 a month could pay the electric or gas bill instead of having to borrow money from family!
And I hate when people say a little wasteful spending won't hurt - I enjoyed this article on Yahoo Finance:
If you buy one $4 latte each day, that coffee habit will set you back $28 a week, about $120 a month and $1,460 per year. Keep that up for five years, and you've slurped away $7,300, not including any money you might have earned by investing your cash instead. If you account for missed investment returns, the loss amounts to roughly $9,300 (assuming a 9% average return).

After 10 years, your Starbucks habit costs you a car. After 30 years, the $239,891 that you drank away (including investment returns), could have bought a house. Over 40 years, the Starbucks habit could reduce your retirement nest-egg by an astounding $634,428 -- enough to generate an income of more than $2,600 a month.
 
If you weren't good handling money before winning, you won't be good afterwards either. I just saw on the news that the average lottery player spends $40 a week so that adds up year after year. I had family members who spent that much or more and had a hard time paying their bills but thought "what's a few dollars here and there". Well $160 a month could pay the electric or gas bill instead of having to borrow money from family!
And I hate when people say a little wasteful spending won't hurt - I enjoyed this article on Yahoo Finance:
If you buy one $4 latte each day, that coffee habit will set you back $28 a week, about $120 a month and $1,460 per year. Keep that up for five years, and you've slurped away $7,300, not including any money you might have earned by investing your cash instead. If you account for missed investment returns, the loss amounts to roughly $9,300 (assuming a 9% average return).

After 10 years, your Starbucks habit costs you a car. After 30 years, the $239,891 that you drank away (including investment returns), could have bought a house. Over 40 years, the Starbucks habit could reduce your retirement nest-egg by an astounding $634,428 -- enough to generate an income of more than $2,600 a month.


And I think that's my point Dakota, You can make the "wasting" money case on just about every purchase you make. One tip that people get a lot is about bringing lunch from home instead of buying.

So here's the thing. Yes if you take the money you purchase a starbucks with and save it you could end up with a nice sum, no doubt. If I took the money I spend at Disney and saved it over 30 years, I'd have millions with a m. So it becomes a quality of life issue.

There are some things people spend money on that increase the quality of life immediately. Hopefully if you are splurging on a 4 buck latte every day, you have your other ducks in a row.

What is your quality of life if all you do is purchase necessities? So you are saying you never have taken your kids to a movie, because you know if you take that 20 bucks you spend on a movie...... I guess you don't give them birthday parties either?? no one has a video game??

You get my point ( when I say you, I'm asking hypothetically). What is the cut off point for wasteful. Let's see last month I

went to see wicked (300 bucks after dinner, parking and tickets)
went to see star wars twice. lol, the force is strong with this one (100 tickets for 3, 40 popcorn)
spent 75 bucks on two new lipsticks from Dior.
brought the disney edition of monopoly with the pop up castle from amazon 65.00
brought into the monthly workplace lottery pool 10 bucks.

Why are the first 4 perfectly ok but the last one makes me a sucker?
 
I have a love/hate relationship with the PB. I am a gas station clerk. On one hand, extra people coming into the store. On the other, nothing else gets done. Just PB sales when it is high. We get 5% of sales, so a little extra money.
Having to explain how to fill out a PB form is a pain. 5 on top, 1 on bottom, but people just cannot grasp something so simple. Thankfully we put up a sign that says cash only so that stopped most of the can I pay with a card.
 
Someone very close to me won 25 million a couple of years ago. They never thought it would happen to them, but it did. They were very generous and changed a lot of people's lives.
 















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