Post your crazy school supply item here.

Not at all. I am trying to find a way to explain that no matter how hard it is to pay when you are young and healthy, it is MUCH harder to find a job, work a job and keep a job...and pay school taxes too. I am saying that those who are old and at the end of their lives should not have to CONTINUE to pay school taxes. That we could much more fairly fund schools and that as a society we have a responsibility to our old just as much as we do our young.
Yes, but that responsibility is Social Security and Medicaid (or is it Medicare -- I always confuse the two names). I don't see why senior citizens wouldn't continue to reap benefits of education -- even beyond the societal level. They themselves are still educated, their children are educated, and their grandchildren are being educated.

My example was just to illustrate how education costs are currently structured. Paying for a private school for a neighbor is as close to your "social benefit" example as I can get to a childless couple paying for school taxes. Both are costs to educate children not your own. While education IS important to a society, the benefit is NOT even to all members of that society. The greatest benefit will always be (in a democracy) to the individual (family) who receives it, NOT society as a whole.
Ah, I see the connection; however, I don't agree with your premise. How many services do you use each week? How many of the people with whom you come in contact were educated in the public school system. You can't discount that indirect benefit.

You also ignore the fate of children whose parents can't afford to educate them. I was one of those kids -- we were poor during my entire childhood and were on welfare for a portion of it. I received 12 years of education in the public school system, then I received a Pell Grant in college. Yes, I took a great deal from society; however, since graduating from college 20+ years ago I have been working in a professional job, paying taxes every year, providing needed services for society. My own children will not need Pell Grants. Without those educational benefits, I would've stayed where I was born. Would it be better to say to poor children, "Sucks to be you, but your parents can't pay for your education. Maybe you can work in a factory. Nope, those jobs went to Mexico. Well, the soup kitchen is down the street."


The increase in federal tax revenue would be redirected to the states based on need. It would provide better funding for our schools and provide a more even education opportunity for all. The increased revenue would also allow a person, once they reach the end of life where they can not work, or working becomes MUCH more difficult ( if they can even find a job.) to FINALLY pay off the education debt to society.
You're assuming that the two parties would agree to make major changes in taxes, that they'd be willing to shift that money from federal to state, and that the money would be used for schools. You're optimistic.
 
I home school so we don't really have a list. My nephews list includes 4 tennis balls for his chair so the floors aren't scratched. This was the first time I ever saw that on a list but since then have heard a few friends mention it. I thought that was odd.
I asked for tennis balls when i taught 4th grade
i can assure you, it is NOT to save the floor from being scratched
have you ever heard 30 chairs being pushed, pulled, shuffled, and shifted for 6 hours straight?:faint:
:lmao:
 
I'm sorry that happened to you. No one should feel unsafe at work.

Ah, it happened early in my shift and by the time I left for the night he was gone so it was fine. You just never know who's gonna be the next psycho with a shotgun.

I always carried my school ID card as well as my insurance card (which said what district I worked for).

Now you see, this would have caused an argument at my store, since we specifically required the union card. The other ID is stuff we can't use. If we don't have something standard that all teachers had, we couldn't be sure it wasn't a fake

But for me, it IS about being able to afford the extras items at the regular price. I just can't do it. It will be cheaper for me to shop the sales at other stores and hope I can make it through the year with what I get. The kids have to have supplies to do their best work. I don't argue whether this is my job or the parents' job to get the supplies, it is what it is.

I'll be honest, if you're spending enough to get the money back, I don't see the issue, unless you were doing multiple trips so as to get more than 25. My mother having been a teacher, and seeing the teachers who shop my store now, I have no doubt that's money you'll use. I understand laying it out can be hard, but I'm going to let you in on a little secret. If you use the back to school savings pass for 15% off, you're actually making money by buying things. For example. Say a penny item is normally $10 dollars. Use the savings pass, you're only paying $8.50. Then you still get $9.99 back in rewards. Just a tip from one person on a budget to another.
 

The craziest thing on ours is 4 dozen pencils for my 4th grader.

I ask that my 4th graders bring in four dozen pencils. That breaks down to one and a third pencil a week.

To be honest, some kids aren't responsible for taking care of their things, and many students go through all four dozen pencils and then some. If they have extra pencils left at the end of the year, I send them back home.
 
I know that many teachers are reading this board and was hoping someone could help me out.My soon-to-be fifth grader needs black,blue and red pens I bought whatever was on sale for the class however my son's hand tires easily and I want to get him better pens for his own supply box,so I need some suggestions on brand. Thanks:)
As a nurse I personally like my G2 gel ink by pilot pens and my uniball signo pens. I bought and buy my pens/refills at walmart. I personally find the gel ink writes better, smears less and I have less hand strain when using. I also seem to love my basic disney hotel pens which I know are just basic bic stick ones but they seem to write better than ones I buy.
 
The only brand requested on our list was Fiskars scissors, but I do buy brand name supplies for everything else anyways. I did get Ticonderoga pencils, Crayola washable crayons and markers, Elmers glue sticks.
 
We are moving up to High School this year and he's signed up for the Air Force JROTC program. I have no idea what to expect in regards to supplies. I'm actually dreading it. Hope to find out soon. His 8th grade supplies weren't that terrible, other than 3 of his teachers requiring 3" binders just for their class. It was just really cumbersome to lug these around every day. I guess we'll find out soon enough what he will need.

My son is third year Army JROTC. I've not had to pay for anything out of pocket except for tickets to the annual banquet. Which was really just the cost of food, not a big deal. The only fundraiser they have had is the annual beef jerky...$1 a stick. The uniforms and PT Tshirts have all been supplied.
 
We are moving up to High School this year and he's signed up for the Air Force JROTC program. I have no idea what to expect in regards to supplies. I'm actually dreading it. Hope to find out soon. His 8th grade supplies weren't that terrible, other than 3 of his teachers requiring 3" binders just for their class. It was just really cumbersome to lug these around every day. I guess we'll find out soon enough what he will need.

My son did Army JROTC and they needed nothing more than a folder, pencil/pen, and paper. The uniform and shoes are supplied by the program. Your child will probably need the appropriate socks but we just bought my son black dress socks from Walmart.
 
I home school so we don't really have a list. My nephews list includes 4 tennis balls for his chair so the floors aren't scratched. This was the first time I ever saw that on a list but since then have heard a few friends mention it. I thought that was odd.

Tennis balls help keep the room quiet. However, most tennis clubs will gladly give you a class set from the dead balls they can no longer use. You may have to make a few trips to get an entire class set. There is no need to use perfectly good balls on the chair legs since the teacher is going to put a cut in them anyway.
 
Every supply list is bogus.

When my son was in 7th grade, the teacher requested each child get a green 2 inch binder for her science class...this was on the first day of school, when all of the supplies were depleted at stores. Plus GREEN, which was impossible to find, and 2 inches...when 1 inch and 3 inch are the normal size. I swear she did it to be pissy.
 
does any one know when walmart comes out with their 40cent composition notebooks and crayons for 10 and 25 cents? those pretty good prices for walmart back to school sales?

i hope i have not missed it this year.
 
The oddest thing (to me) on our school's list this year is AA batteries. Those have never been on the list before, but the school got SmartBoards last year, so I wonder if the batteries are needed for that.

They ask for "Pink Pearl erasers" specifically, probably because they erase cleaner and more easily than off-brands. They also ask for Crayola crayons and colored pencils. The list specifically says not to label individual supplies, but I always label the headphones and other items like pencil boxes or bags. This year my oldest needs a Trapper Keeper and I'm sure I will label that with his name.

I appreciated the way my son's 4th grade teacher handled supplies last year. We brought in everything requested on "meet the teacher day" and she had a supply box for each child labeled with their class number (each child had a number they put on their papers and she posted grades by the numbers). She said to put certain items in their desks for immediate use, put others in their supply boxes for refilling, and to take the rest home to bring when they ran out at school. She wanted them to be more responsible and take care of their own needs rather than to go to a community supply. The supply boxes for the 22 kids didn't take up that much space.

My nephew's charter high school uses iPads instead of text books. Each family pays a rental fee either monthly or yearly for it and it automatically syncs when they arrive at school. The app store is disabled and if they put anything not authorized on it the iPad locks up when it tries to sync. My sister paid an extra fee for my nephew to have it over the summer with SAT-prep apps and the app store is unlocked but he has to return it a couple of weeks before school to have it wiped and ready when classes start. At the end of I think 2 years of renting the iPad, I think they are given the iPad to keep.
 
does any one know when walmart comes out with their 40cent composition notebooks and crayons for 10 and 25 cents? those pretty good prices for walmart back to school sales?

i hope i have not missed it this year.

I was at Walmart yesterday and the composition books were .50 and one subject spiral notebooks .17. These were by the front door and I didn't look at crayons.

Now this items may be on sale early here, because year round school started July 9, modified calendar starts today, but traditional calendar doesn't start until August 22. Yes, our school district has 3 types of calendars.
 
My youngest brother is in high school and he is telling me that one teacher gives them grades for bringing stuff to school. He has a list of stuff and if you bring something on that list, you get an extra daily grade of 100. (A+). He says you can bring up to three items per semester.

I really hate this kind of stuff and I can't believe its done at the HS level. I don't want my kids getting graded on what supplies they bring, I want them graded based on their academic ability. Please stick to educating the kids, not rewarding them because you need to fill your grade book and supply closet .
 
I was at Walmart yesterday and the composition books were .50 and one subject spiral notebooks .17. These were by the front door and I didn't look at crayons.

Now this items may be on sale early here, because year round school started July 9, modified calendar starts today, but traditional calendar doesn't start until August 22. Yes, our school district has 3 types of calendars.

i got stuff for DD for the same prices at Target the other day
 
I was at Walmart yesterday and the composition books were .50 and one subject spiral notebooks .17. These were by the front door and I didn't look at crayons.

Now this items may be on sale early here, because year round school started July 9, modified calendar starts today, but traditional calendar doesn't start until August 22. Yes, our school district has 3 types of calendars.

Crayons are $0.50 this year, up from $0.40 last year. I don't know about the roseart crayons because I don't them, but they are usually a little cheaper.
 
As a nurse I personally like my G2 gel ink by pilot pens and my uniball signo pens. I bought and buy my pens/refills at walmart. I personally find the gel ink writes better, smears less and I have less hand strain when using. I also seem to love my basic disney hotel pens which I know are just basic bic stick ones but they seem to write better than ones I buy.

I've never had Disney pens die on me, and in Central Florida, you find them every where outside of Disney. I've seen them at banks, restaurants, and any other place that pens are regularly lost by customers after signing credit card receipts. I probably have a hundred of them in a box around here somewhere.

I'm another fan of the G2 as well, and used it throughout high school. I also have a large collection of mechanical and wooden pencils. I find I write better in pencil. I like using the Side FX mechanical pencil, it has a twist up eraser that lasts much longer than others, and they sell refills. Sharpie has also come out with a liquid pencil #2. Although once it's dried after like 24 hours you can't erase it. I bought a new one for this coming year.
 
What I can't stand is each kid needs to bring 9 100 page composition notebooks. 8 come home at the end of the year each with only 5-20 pages used. :confused3
 





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