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[lisapooh]

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I am biting my tongue hard

Pooh Bear

 

[Wheelsie]

hopefully my answer helped

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[teri]

sigh! well, we'll keep an eye on it, hope it just gets buried.

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[Wheelsie]

Lisa w the help of my post maybe you can answer to it in the calm manner DISers have come to know from us on disABILITIES

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[Michigan]

Everytime I hear people say they get run into by strollers and wheelchairs I think wow I must be the only person that has never been run into. I can honestly say I have never been run into and I have been going for 29 years now.

 

[SueOKW]

Hi Wheelsie - your post did make it easy to answer - sorry Teri - I answered prior to reading about the hopeful burial of the thing.

i did feel terrible when I ran into those people. I was so busy laughing it up - boom.... ouch - that's GOTTA hurt!
Sue

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[CathyCanada]

I responded as well after Lisa brought it to my attention. Hopefully people will see that there are 2 sides to every story and after Sue's testimonial we should all just slow down and be careful.
CC

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[SueM in MN]

You all did such a good job of responding that I didn't feel any need to put in my 2 cents worth. Maybe it will slink back to the bottom.

SueM in MN
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[Kay1]

I probably shouldn't say anything but I just came across a closed thread in which a teen posted a negative experience at PO/DXL and was tormented by adults over her spelling and grammar. Did they ever consider she may have a learning disability? It was very cruel and disturbing to see and the moderators closed the thread.

 

[momejay]

Some people just don't get "it!"
It goes both ways.
My mom just missed getting kicked in the head as some kid tried to hurdle her in an ECV. Yes, it was rented. No, she doesn't use one all the time at home. We've had more people run into the back of her than she has run into.(& she was stopped)
Some of us are bad or inexperienced drivers & ECVs (especially some of the rented ones) have little control when it comes to speed. All of us ahould pay attention to where we are going, but it's hard when we're looking at maps & over excited.
Wheelsie, WELL DONE!

 

[Wes]

Teri,

I hope it does not get buried. The issue needs to be made clear to people who think that people who are in wheelchairs or ECVs are there only -- how did she say it? for convenience - or for any other reason than medical necessity. These are people who have not had to ride a mile in the seat of those whose shoes cannot be walked in. And they think everything in the world is a projection of their own thoughts and abilities: they'd like to ride around in a wheel chair and given special consideration too -- or so they think from this mindset.

Certainly there are some who are so self-centered that they will never change, but the discussion Wheelsie started is a good one to remind people that -- no, not everyone in the world is just like them.

I think most people are good-hearted, but in the crowds and the wear and tear of a day at WDW, they may forget how things are for others -- which is a good indication that they need to take better care of themselves and rest for a few hours. The discussion will help the majority of good-hearted people give themselves a gentle reminder when things get stressful.

 

[Mskanga]

those people should just be thankful they don't have to use a wheelchair or an ECV and pray that they never have to at least for long periods of time, I have been on a wheelchair for six months when I had surgery on both of my feet and it wasn't something I would like to do for the rest of my life, maybe that's why I'm so angry after reading that, I just don't see how some people may want to rent those for 'convenience', to me it's everything but convenience, for those people who really need it to be able to move around that's not convenience, that's just their special leggs.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone and if I did please accept my apology , that wasn't the intention.

 

[teri]

We often prefer for posts like this to get buried after a few careful responses so that we don't get into an escalation... There is an Internet discussion board phenomenon that some people have called 'piling on' which can be very hurtful and divisive, and can alienate people rather than bring them around to your point of view. 'Piling on' is something we prefer to avoid on the DIS. We would rather illustrate our viewpoint and bring people to understand than to embarrass them for not knowing what we already know.

However, Wes, et al, message received. Next time I will post a link to the posts about experiences of people who have been in wheelchairs, which can be found under 'Favorite Threads' in the unfinished disABILITIES FAQ.

Meantime, I can't count the number of times I have had someone jump in front of our wheelchair and stop suddenly, either when I was pushing my parents or my kids when they needed it. Last time I was at Disneyland I actualy saw a teen use the handlebar of a moving scooter for purchase as he vaulted over it to get ahead in the crowd. Unbelievable behavior!

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[BuckeyeBelle]

Just checked out that post. Lisa and all, you did a great job responding! Wes, don't worry -- the subject will come up again soon enough. (It always does ) There are always plenty of chances to enlighten people. That's why these great people here are so good at it! <IMG WIDTH="15" HEIGHT="15" SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="razz">

 

[itscc2u]

Wheelsie,

I read your post and BRAVO very well said.

Im afraid I didnt bite my tongue and posted a reply

I am "new" to these boards although I have been reading them for six months. You all have soem terrific info for me.

Christine
DisABLED SAHM Mom to Stefan
Heading to Disney in Nov 2001.
Last time there 1981

 

[Nanajo1]

I don't rent my ECV at the parks so I don't know the answer to this. Are any instructions given at the time the ECV is rented such as how much stopping distance is needed etc. I remember from an old post someone who rented from Randy's saying they were given a "lesson" by the person who dropped off the ECV on how to use it. I feel confident in my ECV because I use a power chair at home,but it must be unnerving for first time users. ECVs are motor vehicles and I hope some instructions are given when they are rented at the parks. My trip in March I was rammed twice by another ECV trying to park beside me. Also I have to admit I ran into DH when I turned "this" way when I should have turn "that" way. Now we say "my" left or "your" left. After 31 years we are still ironing out communication gaps

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[MaryT]

Although I have gotten run into a few times with ECV's, it's never been a big deal - it's been people who are unfamiliar with the equipment and they always apologized and I was never actually hurt. Once, however I was nearly sliced by a 'stroller' which was actually a cart you could attach to the back of a bike, but the attachment area caught me - it was being driven by someone not considerate - he blamed me for being in the way! I'll take getting run over by a polite person anyday! I know they don't mean it. BTW - all of your responses to the other post were great!