Possible good news for offsiters and FP+

I am seeing FP+ on my planning dashboard but its locked

I do not have ADR's

I am not staying onsite


I am not going until August so we shall see if I can use it as I am not getting tickets from Disney.
 
It seems that off-site guests WITHOUT magicbands linked to My Disney Experience can reserve fastpass+ starting April 7 or 8, 2014. Off-site guests who have magicbands from a PREVIOUS on-site visit seem to be able to reserve fastpass+ times BEFORE April 7. We missed out because our off-site trip is ending April 6 :confused3

Are you saying they can start selecting them on April 7th or they can start using the ones they booked 60 days before on April 7th. My understand was that the start date for selecting FPs would be Feb. 6 which is 60 days before April 7 which would be the first day the actually FP+ would be used.

Kateandkids reported that she saw a start date for making FP+ selection of Feb.22 which was 60 days before her first ADR. When she went it and made a new ADR for one day earlier, it changed the date she could start her FP+ selection by moving it one day earlier. My understanding was she did not have an AP or a MB. It seems each person's start date is based on when their first ADR is.
 
We have a split stay also. June 7-9 offsite, June 10-12 onsite, June 13-21 offsite. I know that they will see my onsite reservation, but I need to book FP+ a few days before and then the days after our onsite stay also.
I have no tickets linked yet, but when I get our 10 day base tickets will it let me prebook for the total 2 weeks we will be there?
 
I am seeing FP+ on my planning dashboard but its locked

I do not have ADR's

I am not staying onsite


I am not going until August so we shall see if I can use it as I am not getting tickets from Disney.

Thanks for the report.
Do you have tickets linked?

ETA: Kateandkids had ADRs and tickets linked. Maybe this is why she is able to see a date. I can't see a start date but I do not have tickets linked but I do have ADRs
 

I have been following FP+ threads closely, and this idea about offsite FP+ booking has me asking some questions, which may be obvious to some:

1) For onsite stays, it is clear to MDE when you will be at Disney and thus will use FP+. If you are doing a split onsite/offsite stay (8 days, 4 on, 4 off), will the system allow you to book FP+ past your onsite stay or before your onsite stay? How would MDE know? If they do indeed allow offsite to prebook, it won't matter. You can only go 60 days out. I think onsite guest will be able to do 60 days plus the length of their stay but off-site will have to come in each day at 60 days to make their's.

2) For offsite stays, it seems they are using ADRs as a "trigger" right now. What has me thinking is that MOST offsite people will not be booking ADRs. If they open this up live and an offsite guest has a 7-day ticket linked and no ADRs, what is to stop them from booking FP+ for times they are NOT going to WDW at all? For example (assuming the system is live) I link my tickets in April, but I am not planning on going until July, could I book FP+ in June, then just not show up? When will those FP+ be returned to the system, if ever? Would I then lose the ability to book for my actual dates in July if I do not cancel? I guess I am asking if anyone knows if there will be a penalty in place if you book FP+ and don't use them. Would those people then not be able to use FP+ at all, even when they get to the park?I don't think this will be a big problem. AP holders than have already had an onsite stay to get their MBs have already had this ability to do this. I also don't believe their will a penalty unless it became a huge problem. Too much backlash. What would happen if your flight got cancelled or any other hundreds of things that could go wrong that would keep you from the park for that day. If you woke up in your room and had a child throwing up, I'm not sure you would think about cancelling FP+s you made 60 days ago.

3) Will the days allowed for booking FP+ be limited to the days on the linked ticket?Yes So on a 5-day ticket that expires 14 days after first use, would there only be 5 days I could book in that 14-day window, assuming MDE does not know what my plans are? Or in a 7-day window, as I have seen for AP? Or would it allow me to book every day? And what is that trigger for the first day? I would think you could book and 5 days within 14 days of that first booking since the system would know that 21 days later that ticket would be expired. If you have a 5 day with no expiration date could book any 5 days as long as it was only 60 days out. They could book 70 days out. Right now the trigger seems to be an ADR but I could see that even that could go away and if you had a ticket linked, you could book any day you wanted as long as it was 60 days or less out. But if you have that 5 day ticket and booked one day on June 1, you couldn't book another day for June 30 because that ticket would expire before June 30 if you used it on June 1. That would not be true if you had no expiration.

4) I wonder if they will give FP+ booking preference to onsite guests on days of high attendance, like Easter or July 4th, just as they do when the parks reach capacity. It would stink to have your FP+ booked as an offsite guest, and then not even be able to get into the park.I don't think having a prebook FP+ will get you into the park if it is closed due to capacity. From my understand an ADR would not get you in the gates either in that same case.

For disclosure, I am an AP holder and DVC, and we always stay onsite. We were there in early Nov 2013, but we chose NOT to use FP+ and stayed with KTTW cards to use in the FP kiosks, even though we had Magic Bands. Going again this May, and will be forced to use FP+. So I have no opinion of the system yet. And I have no problem with anyone staying offsite using FP+. I am all about pre-planning!

But my general concern is that if the FP+ system is opened to anyone with a ticket linked to MDE, but the system has no method to tie in actual dates of a vacation, there will be abuse of the system. People will book FP+ they never intend on using. There will be artificial depletion of FP+, similar to the problems with ADRs until recently, where people would book and never show up. I am hoping there is some control mechanism in place, and maybe that is what they are doing with this test. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the coming weeks as more offsite folks are invited to participate.

Guess it is a wait and see what happens. I guess no one really knows.
 
I have tickets linked for a split stay in June, one day onsite then 5 days at the Swan. For the heck of it, I made an ADR yesterday for April 17th. When I logged in today, and I clicked FP+ "make selections", I now receive a message that I will be eligible to make FP+ reservations starting on Feb 16th.

Cool.

Guess I have to figure if I want to cancel my one night onsite stay or not....
 
Thanks for the report.
Do you have tickets linked?

ETA: Kateandkids had ADRs and tickets linked. Maybe this is why she is able to see a date. I can't see a start date but I do not have tickets linked but I do have ADRs



No linked tickets.


At this point we don't have anything booked. Besides offsite lodging.
 
Anyone have linked tickets, staying offsite and no ADR's? Curious as to what it says...
 
This is SUCH great news to me! We are staying off-site, but I do have an ADR. I guess I need to purchase my tickets and see what it lets me do! I did think when this first came out how inconvenient it will be for every off-site guest (which is the majority of them) to have to use the kiosks. If they allow it, then most people will just use their phones, so better for everyone!

Now to get them to add a few more FP to each day...
 
I have tickets linked for a split stay in June, one day onsite then 5 days at the Swan. For the heck of it, I made an ADR yesterday for April 17th. When I logged in today, and I clicked FP+ "make selections", I now receive a message that I will be eligible to make FP+ reservations starting on Feb 16th.

Cool.

Guess I have to figure if I want to cancel my one night onsite stay or not....

Soooo, wanna try cancelling that one night onsite stay and tell us what you see then? :goodvibes
 
I have been following FP+ threads closely, and this idea about offsite FP+ booking has me asking some questions, which may be obvious to some:

1) For onsite stays, it is clear to MDE when you will be at Disney and thus will use FP+. If you are doing a split onsite/offsite stay (8 days, 4 on, 4 off), will the system allow you to book FP+ past your onsite stay or before your onsite stay? How would MDE know?

2) For offsite stays, it seems they are using ADRs as a "trigger" right now. What has me thinking is that MOST offsite people will not be booking ADRs. If they open this up live and an offsite guest has a 7-day ticket linked and no ADRs, what is to stop them from booking FP+ for times they are NOT going to WDW at all? For example (assuming the system is live) I link my tickets in April, but I am not planning on going until July, could I book FP+ in June, then just not show up? When will those FP+ be returned to the system, if ever? Would I then lose the ability to book for my actual dates in July if I do not cancel? I guess I am asking if anyone knows if there will be a penalty in place if you book FP+ and don't use them. Would those people then not be able to use FP+ at all, even when they get to the park?

3) Will the days allowed for booking FP+ be limited to the days on the linked ticket? So on a 5-day ticket that expires 14 days after first use, would there only be 5 days I could book in that 14-day window, assuming MDE does not know what my plans are? Or in a 7-day window, as I have seen for AP? Or would it allow me to book every day? And what is that trigger for the first day?

4) I wonder if they will give FP+ booking preference to onsite guests on days of high attendance, like Easter or July 4th, just as they do when the parks reach capacity. It would stink to have your FP+ booked as an offsite guest, and then not even be able to get into the park.

For disclosure, I am an AP holder and DVC, and we always stay onsite. We were there in early Nov 2013, but we chose NOT to use FP+ and stayed with KTTW cards to use in the FP kiosks, even though we had Magic Bands. Going again this May, and will be forced to use FP+. So I have no opinion of the system yet. And I have no problem with anyone staying offsite using FP+. I am all about pre-planning!

But my general concern is that if the FP+ system is opened to anyone with a ticket linked to MDE, but the system has no method to tie in actual dates of a vacation, there will be abuse of the system. People will book FP+ they never intend on using. There will be artificial depletion of FP+, similar to the problems with ADRs until recently, where people would book and never show up. I am hoping there is some control mechanism in place, and maybe that is what they are doing with this test. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the coming weeks as more offsite folks are invited to participate.

I'm staying off site and I was all for off site being able to prebook - however when thinking through your questions I can see allowing off site prebooking at 60 days could add problems to an already buggy my Disney experience website.
 
hmmm. I bet they will make offsite guests have to enter in specific dates? OR, maybe only those offsite with an ADR?
I am now wondering how they'll be able to regulate...

Right now I still have a "throw away" room reserved for our week after Thanksgiving. I am in no hurry to cancel, especially until we see how this all plays out for offsite guests...
 
It seems that off-site guests WITHOUT magicbands linked to My Disney Experience can reserve fastpass+ starting April 7 or 8, 2014. Off-site guests who have magicbands from a PREVIOUS on-site visit seem to be able to reserve fastpass+ times BEFORE April 7. We missed out because our off-site trip is ending April 6 :confused3

I put in an ADR for March just to test that! And it still said April 7th. When I took the March ADR out, then it reverted to telling me I could book 60 days before my June ADR. So it seems that April 7th is the start date regardless of MB or not?

ETA: I don't have tickets linked yet. Maybe that is why.
 
I played around with it. It is completely tied to my ADR. When I made a reservation for the 1st night of our trip, it moved my 60 day window accordingly.

Thank you so much kateandkids for playing around with the MDE system and teaching us how it all will work! My family and I stay off site most of the time b/c we own a timeshare. Not having pre booking ability for FP+ was a huge concern for me. I am so happy to see this newest information!!!!!
 
hmmm. I bet they will make offsite guests have to enter in specific dates? OR, maybe only those offsite with an ADR?
I am now wondering how they'll be able to regulate...

Right now I still have a "throw away" room reserved for our week after Thanksgiving. I am in no hurry to cancel, especially until we see how this all plays out for offsite guests...

the easiest way is to make it work like it does entering the park.

any guest that enters the park has a day subtracted from his ticket

This could work the same way. linking your ticket to open up fp reservation could work just like when you enter the park. you used that day, and it is locked in. no change of heart once you enter the park and see the long lines. , no change of heart when you see TSMM fp is only open from the hours of 4pm to 6 pm.
 
the easiest way is to make it work like it does entering the park.

any guest that enters the park has a day subtracted from his ticket

This could work the same way. linking your ticket to open up fp reservation could work just like when you enter the park. you used that day, and it is locked in. no change of heart once you enter the park and see the long lines. , no change of heart when you see TSMM fp is only open from the hours of 4pm to 6 pm.

You should ask the marketing staff what they think of this idea. :cool2:
 
Soooo, wanna try cancelling that one night onsite stay and tell us what you see then? :goodvibes
I'm scared too! I actually want to keep the on site reservation for magic bands and to let my kids experience Stormalong. I guess we need to find another victim....I mean, "tester".
 
the easiest way is to make it work like it does entering the park.

any guest that enters the park has a day subtracted from his ticket

This could work the same way. linking your ticket to open up fp reservation could work just like when you enter the park. you used that day, and it is locked in. no change of heart once you enter the park and see the long lines. , no change of heart when you see TSMM fp is only open from the hours of 4pm to 6 pm.

So are you saying that if we wake up and my child is sick that I should lose on day my FP+ for good because I don't make it to the park just because we stay offsite.

All this talk about how are you going to control all those offsite guest from making FP+s and never showing up. The same that happens to all those FP+s that onsite guest make and never show up. If a off-site guest has a 5 day ticket then they can only make 5 days of FP+s. And if they don't have NE, they will be limited to a 14 day window.

Do on-site guest believe there are thousands of off-site guest, that don't have APs, sitting around booking FP+s they have no intention of using? :confused3 I think a bigger worry would be AP holders that because they could book any weekend day within 60 days on the off chance they decide to visit the park that weekend.
 
A few questions.

1) Do offsite guests need to have tickets linked in order to use FP+? We buy vouchers at our local Disney store and turn them in at the gate for tickets. So technically, we don't have tickets until we get there. How do we get around that (other than using UT)?

2) Assuming the answer to 1) is no, I'm guessing ADRs would trigger FP+. And I'm guessing Disney is assuming the ADR date is the first day you can do FP+. Assuming you can make "reservations" 60 days before your ADR date, how many subsequent days will Disney allow you to make reservations?
 


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