Possible good news for offsiters and FP+

[Sammie]

No offence meant, at all, but these are exactly the kinds of posts we were referring to that are not useful as "fact".

We are looking for statements from people in WDW management, on the record.

Heck for all I know the person you are talking about is Bob Iger, but then he might also be the guy in the Mickey suit.

We are pretty sure they "are" holding some back, and that seems to make some logical sense given the restrictions to selection for offsite and APs. But with those restrictions gone, we are looking for an official statement they plan to continue to hold some back, in the absence of one, it would appear they will not ...

Seriously how many posts on this forum are facts, very few. Many people that are CMs share info, many people such as Tikiman share info from friends who are CMs.

If we discard all non factual posts on this forum as not useful, they might as well close it down. Including your post saying this info is not useful.

 

[ArwenMarie]

They seem to keep moving the day out...today mine says April 9th, yesterday was April 8th.

 

[JimmyV]

I'm sorry with the new FP+ program it is going to mess up your Feb. vacation.

It won't mess up our vacation. But I am bummed that we are going during that one finite slice of time when off-site guests will get the shaft. But the trip coincides with my daughter's 16th b-day and when we asked her if she wanted to do anything special for her birthday, she said: "Go to Disney World", so we "locked it in". Too bad we can't lock anything else in!

 

[Angel Ariel]

IMO, off site guests should not have advanced access to FP+. If you want it, stay on property, get an AP, otherwise please wait patiently at a kiosk the day of.

Disney's terms and conditions for fp+ state that magic your way ticket holders would be able to book 60 days in advance. Personally, I'm happy that Disney is choosing not to treat offsite guests Luke second class citizens

 

[Tuffcookie]

IMO, off site guests should not have advanced access to FP+. If you want it, stay on property, get an AP, otherwise please wait patiently at a kiosk the day of.

The Legacy FP didn't have that restriction and, IMO, the new FP+ shouldn't.

I understand if I stay on-site I can take advantage of free-dining (when it's offered) and EMHs, or charging to my room, or Disney's Magical Express so it's not like you aren't getting anything for staying on-site! I feel FP+ should not be a given "perk" for staying at an on-site resort.

TC

 

[msl013]

Disney's terms and conditions for fp+ state that magic your way ticket holders would be able to book 60 days in advance. Personally, I'm happy that Disney is choosing not to treat offsite guests Luke second class citizens

Disney is allowing everyone access to FP+ now who has a ticket. If I'm spending money staying on site or purchasing an annual pass, I expect more than the "average" ticket holder.

 

[Vidia2]

Disney's terms and conditions for fp+ state that magic your way ticket holders would be able to book 60 days in advance. Personally, I'm happy that Disney is choosing not to treat offsite guests Luke second class citizens

Everything I've read says "up to" 60 days in advance. If you have a link to something else please post it so that it's clearer to all of us. Obviously there's a big difference when those two words are in there.

 

[JimmyV]

If I'm spending money staying on site or purchasing an annual pass, I expect more than the "average" ticket holder.

Repeat after me:
Extra....Magic....Hours.

There's your benefit. FP has always been a feature built in for everyone. There has never been any suggestion that this was going to change. The 5 day pass costs the same for everyone, so everyone should get the full benefit of the 5 day pass. Your room cost grants you access to EMHs, not your pass.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Disney is allowing everyone access to FP+ now who has a ticket. If I'm spending money staying on site or purchasing an annual pass, I expect more than the "average" ticket holder.

The perks one gets for the money they spend on a resort are resort related, and entirely appropriate, imo.

 

[magicbob]

Disney's terms and conditions for fp+ state that magic your way ticket holders would be able to book 60 days in advance. Personally, I'm happy that Disney is choosing not to treat offsite guests Luke second class citizens

Everything I've read says "up to" 60 days in advance. If you have a link to something else please post it so that it's clearer to all of us. Obviously there's a big difference when those two words are in there.

There's definitely some "lawyer-speak" at work. I think the actual wording may be all guests with tickets will have "access" to FP+. But I think the jury is still out on whether they define that as access to ALL features (i.e., pre-booking) or if using the kiosks on the day of qualifies as "access."

 

[lm1981]

From the screen grab you posted it looks to me as if the system thinks you don't have your ADR or anything else linked to your MDE. Have you linked your ADR to your account?

I think my ADR is linked. Further down the page, the ADR is listed. Can I assume since the ADR is listed on my MDE page that it is indeed linked?

I also went to "my reservations" and my ADR is showing up there.

 

[Shaden]

Seriously how many posts on this forum are facts, very few. Many people that are CMs share info, many people such as Tikiman share info from friends who are CMs.

If we discard all non factual posts on this forum as not useful, they might as well close it down. Including your post saying this info is not useful.

We have quite a few actual statements, on the record, from Disney management about this system.

When I speculate about the system, I don't claim to have inside knowledge, even if I have talked to a CM, or do I suggest that, if I talk to a CM or a former CM or any such thing, that the statement is true.

But we were specifically talking about the fact that we have had official statements about the availability of FP+s, and holding them back for day of has not been mentioned. That's what we are looking for.

 

[lm1981]

Maybe because you don't have tickets linked?

I believe other people have stated that they do not have tickets linked either, yet they are getting a message with a date stating when they can start booking fastpasses.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Everything I've read says "up to" 60 days in advance. If you have a link to something else please post it so that it's clearer to all of us. Obviously there's a big difference when those two words are in there.

From Disney's terms and conditions - see the highlighted portion

 

[magicbob]

From Disney's terms and conditions - see the highlighted portion

I stand corrected.

P.S. This one is aimed at me.

 

[AmyB2006]

Seriously how many posts on this forum are facts, very few. Many people that are CMs share info, many people such as Tikiman share info from friends who are CMs.

If we discard all non factual posts on this forum as not useful, they might as well close it down. Including your post saying this info is not useful.

ROFL... I totally agree.

Shaden you'll be hard pressed to find any facts on here. Why? It is a message board. It's all anecdotal evidence. But it does provide useful information. If enough people can "testify" that they've gotten something to work, then I'm willing to bet that it probably does.

Any idiot can come on here and post something as a fact. Doesn't mean that it is, I get it. But we're all pretty smart and can use logical deduction and reasoning to figure things out.

You can wait for a Disney exec to come waltzing in here and pronounce something as fact if you want, but I'm willing to go on a little less than that. Who knows, that may be information that Disney doesn't want out there as "fact", so they may never announce it. Just because Disney doesn't announce it as fact, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

 

[Angel Ariel]

lol, magicbob

It's important too, I think, to note that the window may be different for other ticket media. As a family who generally gets the Armed Forces Salute tickets - which I don't believe are technically MYW tickets - I am interested to see if those tickets will still get the 60 day window.

 

[ArwenMarie]

While I think this is a nice development for offsiters, I am now 99.99% convinced this means that tiering by resort-level is coming.

I thought that the prebooking was going to be the onsite perk. Now, it seems that is not the case.

I still think that they are going to use FP to try to differentiate their hotel product against the million other hotels etc in Orlando. Combine this with other speculation (including in the 2014 Unofficial Guide) that there would be groups of customers based on resort level and the rumor about the possibility of selling them and for quite a steep price....I think tiering by resort will be coming soon, with onsite and higher-level resorts getting more FPs.

I just can't believe that they built this whole monstrosity of a system and are going to have everything be equal for offsite, local APs, and onsite.

 

[Vidia2]

From Disney's terms and conditions - see the highlighted portion

Thank you! I don't really know the difference between a magic your way ticket and another kind of ticket but I can look that up. I've only ever had a MYW except for day tickets from years ago.

 

[Laketravis]

Sounds like everyone is assuming that the date presented represents the start of a reservation window. 60 days before? 60 days after? 60 days from what trigger?

Perhaps it doesn't mean that at all, and simply represents the date that off-site guests without resort reservations can start using the app to make FP+ selections on the day(s) they enter the park.