Poly 2024 Expansion ‘Restricted’

[Leight19]

When someone does a welcome home visit they do not allow new owners to book a different home resort than they own more than 7 months in advance.

DVC may give those owners a room that was booked on their own points at the home resort…like giving a developer owned room at RIV for a new RIV owner,

But, DVD has to follow the same rules as everyone else when securing rooms using their own points. That is why. DVC doesn’t sell OTU points to others until 7 months out,

No matter what, only points deeded to the Poly tower…assuming it’s a new association…can be used there during the home resort booking period, however that is defined. DVD has to follow those same rules snd once the resort is sold out, DVD would only have the points it still owns…maybe 2%…to even attempt that.

There is no legal way that I can see for PvB and Poly tower to have the same booking window at either one but be different condo associations.

To clarify my point they used their points to book beach club room at 11 months then held in their cash inventory. They then released it for my welcome home stay with akv points to allow us to book it with our non home resort points. I don’t recall if that last step was in or out of 7 months but the point is there was no scramble/risk to lose the room when they switched like would happen if us owners booked. Disney is clearly doing a different process then owners can do for welcome home stays that lets them hold rooms at 11 months for me with their home resort points to then switch my non home points for welcome home.

 

[Leight19]

It doesn’t really do that though because the total points will still be the total points, unless DVD chooses not to sell all the points declared for the new rooms, above and beyond what they are required to keep

To absorb the use of bungalow points, DVD would have to declare say 98% of the new tower into the PVB association but then only sell 90% of it to new owners so current PvB owners have more options.

Just don’t see DVD making any decisions based on it being better for current PVB owners, but not for overall sales.

If they do put it into PvB..I don’t think they will..it will be because they have the data to support it will sell better, faster and for more money, then it would as its own association. If that benefits current owners, great!

But, if they decide that a new association, with resale restrictions, and a 44 year contract to expire same as PVB, will be a better option to spark direct sales, that is what we will see, even if it is not good for those current PvB owners.

My thought to eat some of the points would be if new tower has 2 bedroom lock offs. The lock off premium could then be a way to eat at some of the excess points in that were “sold” for bungalows but compete for studios. I’ve thought for wile poly has to be one of worst returns operating for dvc given there’s no lock off premium to generate breakage and the bungalows seem to have such low occupancy.

 

[Sandisw]

To clarify my point they used their points to book beach club room at 11 months then held in their cash inventory. They then released it for my welcome home stay with akv points to allow us to book it with our non home resort points. I don’t recall if that last step was in or out of 7 months but the point is there was no scramble/risk to lose the room when they switched like would happen if us owners booked. Disney is clearly doing a different process then owners can do for welcome home stays that lets them hold rooms at 11 months for me to then use my non home points at.

If you got that, then you were lucky that they held a beach club room for you until you hit 7 months. I have never heard that happening as many have posted they could not get what they wanted.

But, in this situation, they had to still have a BCV room available to book for you and have BCV points to do that If they allowed you to book AKV at 11 months and swapped it for you, then you got super lucky because most people aren’t even given a welcome home room if they have booked home resort already.

Even to do what they did for you, in order for DVC to hold Poly tower rooms for PVB owners, they have to own the points and have to reserve them 11 months out like the other Poly tower owners.

And to have enough points to accomplish this, they’d have to have enough for all PvB owners, which is 4 million points because you can’t offer the option to some and not all PVB owners.

Poly tower owners must be given at least one month of home resort advantage and if DVC tried to use other home resort points..PvB…to take rooms from Poly tower owners, it would violate things in a big way.

 

[Sandisw]

My thought to eat some of the points would be if new tower has 2 bedroom lock offs. The lock off premium could then be a way to eat at some of the excess points in that were “sold” for bungalows but compete for studios. I’ve thought for wile poly has to be one of worst returns operating for dvc given there’s no lock off premium to generate breakage and the bungalows seem to have such low occupancy.

The lock off premium could absorb a small number as the points sold for lock offs are determined by the 2 bedrooms.

But, it might be hard to make that number large enough to impact things in any meaningful way.

I think it still comes down to whether or not DVD cares that current PVB has the bungalow points problem and I don’t think they do.

 

[sndral]

I am curious and can't remember...when copper creek was 1st announced did it have the name copper creek? Or was it just announced that they would be an adding move DVC rooms to wilderness lodge and the name Copper creek was introduced later on in the process?
I personally am hoping that since they said they were adding to the Polynesian that they will be the same association. IMHO Poly is awesome and the only thing it is lacking is more room size options.

In Sept. 2015, DVC announced a 14th DVC resort & second location at the WL https://dvcnews.com/resorts/villas-...092-fast-reaction-to-new-wilderness-lodge-dvc w/ no reference to the CCV name.
The original villas were renamed BRVs about a year later in 2016 https://dvcnews.com/resorts/villas-...novations-will-expand-upon-boulder-ridge-name
CCV went on sale in March/April 2017 https://www.dvcnews.com/resorts/vil...nnounces-the-start-of-sales-for-newest-resort
I guess you could argue that by not announcing Poly2 as the 16th DVC resort and 2nd location at Poly DVC is not following the CCV/BRV script, @ least it offers a glimmer of hope that it’ll be the same association like VGF1&2.

 

[Disneykate605]

In Sept. 2015, DVC announced a 14th DVC resort & second location at the WL https://dvcnews.com/resorts/villas-...092-fast-reaction-to-new-wilderness-lodge-dvc w/ no reference to the CCV name.
The original villas were renamed BRVs about a year later in 2016 https://dvcnews.com/resorts/villas-...novations-will-expand-upon-boulder-ridge-name
CCV went on sale in March/April 2017 https://www.dvcnews.com/resorts/vil...nnounces-the-start-of-sales-for-newest-resort
I guess you could argue that by not announcing Poly2 as the 16th DVC resort and 2nd location at Poly DVC is not following the CCV/BRV script, @ least it offers a glimmer of hope that it’ll be the same association like VGF1&2.

Thanks for the info! We bought DVC in Sept 2015