Political: Bushisms (Including a brand new one)

[wvrevy]

Not that good communication skills are a prerequisite for this job or anything, but...

Bush Insists His Administration Seeking 'new Ways to Harm Our Country'
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 5, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush offered up a new entry for his catalog of "Bushisms" on Thursday, declaring that his administration will "never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people."

Bush misspoke as he delivered a speech at the signing ceremony for a $417 billion defense spending bill.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

No one in Bush's audience of military brass or Pentagon chiefs reacted.

Sorry...Thought it was funny...Had to share

 

[Chicago526]

Public speaking isn't MY strong suit, either, but doesn't he have people to help him with stuff like this?

 

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by Chicago526


Public speaking isn't MY strong suit, either, but doesn't he have people to help him with stuff like this?

Unless they can figure out a way to speak for him, there's no preventing this sort of thing with him.

I listened to him the other day and you could tell the minute he went off script...you couldn't decipher what he was saying, but you knew he wasn't reading anymore.

 

[NMAmy]

Hmmm...I didn't think he had misspoken at all.

 

[Maleficent13]

Vote Bush/Cheney '04: We're Gooder!

 

[faithinkarma]

As one who misspeaks often myself, I can have empathy for someone who does it. I know exactly what it feels like to have your thoughts perfectly organized in your head, and to open you mouth and have something different come out. And, personally, I am not even aware of what I have done until I see the reaction.

What does irritate me about this is that had it been Kerry, we would have had to listen to it over and over and over as the lead in to every newscast, accompanied by interviews with experts explaining how it made him unfit to lead.

 

[beattyfamily]

Sorry, just had to share this Kerry video put out by a few men that served with John Kerry.

You share, I share.

 

[Patch'sD]

How do you defend against an enemy if you don't try to figure out what they are going to do. Why are war games so important. Maybe we should just wait and see what they do so we could react after the fact.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by beattyfamily


Sorry, just had to share this Kerry video put out by a few men that served with John Kerry.

You share, I share.

John McCain has condemned this crap, and has called on the president's campaign to do the same...but I'm sure that won't happen

Yeah...I wonder when Shrub's vietnam buddies are gonna come out in support of him ? Oh...wait....what's right....

 

[faithinkarma]

speaking of the men who "served with Kerry" perhaps you might be interested in hearing what McCain has to say about these ads?

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiheral...wcny.rr.com&KRD_RM=9pprtvqtwyxpwvqtxrwppppppp|bev|N

McCain Condemns Anti-Kerry Ad

RON FOURNIER

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service "dishonest and dishonorable" and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.

The White House declined.

"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, comparing the anti-Kerry ad to tactics in his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.

The 60-second ad features Vietnam veterans who accuse the Democratic presidential nominee of lying about his decorated Vietnam War record and betraying his fellow veterans by later opposing the conflict.

"When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry," one of the veterans, Larry Thurlow, says in the ad. Thurlow didn't serve on Kerry's swiftboat, but says he witnessed the events that led to Kerry winning a Bronze Star and the last of his three Purple Hearts. Kerry's crewmates support the candidate and call him a hero.

The ad, scheduled to air in a few markets in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin, was produced by Stevens, Reed, Curcio and Potham, the same team that produced McCain's ads in 2000.

"I wish they hadn't done it," McCain said of his former advisers. "I don't know if they knew all the facts."

Asked if the White House knew about the ad or helped find financing for it, McCain said, "I hope not, but I don't know. But I think the Bush campaign should specifically condemn the ad."

McCain, chairman of Bush's campaign in Arizona, later said the Bush campaign has denied any involvement and added, "I can't believe the president would pull such a cheap stunt."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan declined to condemn the ad. He did denounce the proliferation of spending by independent groups, such as the anti-Kerry veterans organization, that are playing on both sides of the political fence.

"The president thought he got rid of this unregulated soft money when he signed the bipartisan campaign finance reform into law," McClellan said. A chief sponsor of that bill, which Bush initially opposed, was McCain.

In 2000, Bush's supporters sponsored a rumor campaign against McCain in the South Carolina primary, helping Bush win the primary and the nomination. McCain's supporters have never forgiven the Bush team.

McCain said that's all in the past to him, but he's speaking out against the anti-Kerry ad because "it reopens all the old wounds of the Vietnam War, which I spent the last 35 years trying to heal."

"I deplore this kind of politics," McCain said. "I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is, none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crew have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam. I think George Bush served honorably in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War."

Retired Adm. Roy Hoffmann, head of the Swift Boat group, said they respected McCain's "right to express his opinion and we hope he extends to us the same respect and courtesy, particularly since we served with John Kerry, we knew him well and Sen. McCain did not."

McCain himself spent more than five years in a Vietnam prisoner of war camp. A bona fide war hero, McCain, like Kerry, used his war record as the foundation of his presidential campaign.

The Kerry campaign has denounced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, saying none of the men in the ad served on the boat that Kerry commanded. Three veterans on Kerry's boat that day - Jim Rassmann, who says Kerry saved his life, Gene Thorson and Del Sandusky, the driver on Kerry's boat, said the group was lying.

They say Kerry was injured, and Rassmann called the group's account "pure fabrication."

Hoffmann said none of the 13 veterans in the commercial served on Kerry's boat but rather were in other swiftboats within 50 yards of Kerry's. The group claims that there was no gunfire on the day Kerry pulled Rassmann from a muddy river in the Mekong Delta and that Kerry's arm was not wounded, as he has claimed.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Patch'sD
How do you defend against an enemy if you don't try to figure out what they are going to do. Why are war games so important. Maybe we should just wait and see what they do so we could react after the fact.

Yes, I realize that this is what the president was trying to convey, but that's not what he actually said. It SHOULD have read something like "Our enemies never cease trying to think of new ways to harm our country, and we never cease thinking of new ways to stop them". Something to that effect, anyway.

 

[wvrevy]

And here's the important part of that article, for those that couldn't be bothered to actually get the real facts:

"When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry," one of the veterans, Larry Thurlow, says in the ad. Thurlow didn't serve on Kerry's swiftboat, but says he witnessed the events that led to Kerry winning a Bronze Star and the last of his three Purple Hearts. Kerry's crewmates support the candidate and call him a hero.

So in other words, more of the same lies from the Karl Rove camp...what else is new....John McCain....Max Cleeland...Now John Kerry.....It takes a pretty low character to attack three men that fought for this country while supporting a candidate that spent his "military service" gaurding Alabama from the Vietcong (when he could be bothered to show up, that is).

 

[palmtreegirl]

I'm so glad that John McCain has stood up against the lies being told, his courage to do so is one of the many reasons I like and admire him so very much. I really hope he decides to run for President in 2008, he'll have my vote that's for sure!

 

[Patch'sD]

Yes it could have been said better. But lets take a look at the article Headline, what message does that convey. Could that have been written better, or was the intent to damage the president and it was written exactly as it was intended. Bush Insists His Administration Seeking 'new Ways to Harm Our Country' With all of the negative headlines that the Bush Camp gets, should they condone negative ads about Kerry. Everything about Bush is up grabs in the press, but everything about Kerry is off-limits. If Laura Bush was to say four years of Hell about a possible Kerry Administration she would be broiled in the Press. However, Mrs Kerry can talk down to reporters and she is praised for it " You Go Girl".

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by wvrevy
John McCain has condemned this crap, and has called on the president's campaign to do the same...but I'm sure that won't happen

Just as Kerry won't condemn any of the negative ads or comments or insults that are said about Bush??

 

[Maleficent13]

Oh, for Pete's sake! All these campaigns are ridiculous. Everyone thinks their candidate never says anything mean. Everyone thinks their candidate is being picked on. Everyone thinks "it's so not fair!" that they can't say this or that without it being reported on in the press or made much of.

Quite frankly, and IMHO, everyone needs to get over it. I think perhaps I may have just made my last political post until after the election.

 

[WDWHound]

Originally posted by wvrevy
John McCain has condemned this crap, and has called on the president's campaign to do the same...but I'm sure that won't happen

Funny, you trust everthing Micheal Moore has to say, but when men who served with Kerry offer their opinion of Kerry and his service, you automatically call it crap. What makes these decorated war verterans opinion so easily discardible? Their opinions are at least reliable as Micheal Moore's views or the views of all of those trying to to claim Bush was AWOL. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. They are against Bush, so you have to automatically discredit them.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by WDWHound
Funny, you trust everthing Micheal Moore has to say, but when men who served with Kerry offer their opinion of Kerry and his service, you automatically call it crap. What makes these decorated war verterans opinion so easily discardible? Their opinions are at least reliale as Micheal Moore's. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. They are against Bush, so you have to automatically discredit them.

Well said!

 

[faithinkarma]

beattyfamily, You read the whole article and that is what you chose to comment on? Not the fact that perhaps your original post might have some falsehoods in it ACCORDING TO MCCAIN? Why not address the fact that none of thes men who are protesting Kerry served with him, and the fact that the men who did actually serve with Kerry are supporting him? Oh, and you might want to look around a bit and see where these swiftvets are getting their financing.

Yoo hoo....WDWHound, one more time. THESE MEN DID NOT SERVE WITH KERRY. No matter how many times a lie is repeated, it still stinks. And in case it escaped you, we are taking McCains's word for this. Are you doubting the word of the chairman of the committeee to reelect Bush?

 

[palmtreegirl]

Originally posted by WDWHound
Funny, you trust everthing Micheal Moore has to say, but when men who served with Kerry offer their opinion of Kerry and his service, you automatically call it crap. What makes these decorated war verterans opinion so easily discardible?

What makes their opinion less then credible is the fact that they didn't serve under Kerry.