Police, Dressed As Homeless, Give Tickets

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KISSIMMEE, Fla. - Homeless advocates are outraged by an operation where undercover police officers dressed as vagrants, observed drivers running red lights or committing other traffic violations, then radioed ahead to other officers who stopped those cars and wrote tickets.



"Operation Vagrant," a sting operation involving the Florida Highway Patrol, Kissimmee police and the Osceola County Sheriff's Office, nabbed 171 drivers — most of whom ran red lights, a violation that carries an $83 fine.


Undercover deputies stood along streets and gave the indication they were vagrants by pushing shopping carts and wearing fake teeth and tattered clothing. They also carried small cardboard signs, which read, "Sheriff's traffic sting in progress. Buckle up."


"It's kind of appalling," said Marilyn Gordon, executive director of the Homeless Services Network of Central Florida. "I wonder if it will be a consciousness-raising exercise for the law-enforcement officers."


Robert H. Brown, president and chief executive officer of the Coalition for the Homeless of Central Florida, said the officers were being silly.


"It's ironic that they would use a disguise of someone that people think of as visually offensive," Brown said. "I just think it shows that the community's aware of the homeless problem. I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."


Osceola sheriff's bureau Chief Jerry Geier said the sting was designed to raise awareness about dangerous intersections.


Nearly 25,000 drivers were ticketed for running red lights in Florida in 2001, and 107 deaths that year were attributed to drivers disregarding traffic signals. Plus, police nationwide started a new initiative this week to call attention to dangers of riding in a vehicle without using a seat belt.


"Our ultimate goal is to make an impact," Geier said. "The last thing we're trying to do is disrespect anybody."


State Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, an advocate of stronger seat-belt and other traffic-safety laws, applauded the sting operation. His daughter, Dori, 14, was killed in a 1996 traffic accident in which she did not wear a seat belt.


"I admire them for being creative," Slosberg said.
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It is creative and they need to do all they can to curb traffic violations there in the Orlando area. My father has been living there for 5 months now and he's already learned some local driving tips. He said when your light turns green, you wait a few seconds, so that all the drivers running red lights can get through the intersection. He's had 3 near-misses and my sister has had one.
 
I'm all for it, and I don't see what the big deal is.

Of course that would never work here in DC - there wouldn't be room at the intersections for the police officers because of all of the vagrants that are already there.
 
I don't see what the problem is. I am all for giving out traffic violations to those who deserve them.

We were down there in March and the running (very fast too) of red lights was AWFUL. A lot of near misses were observed every time we were off-site.

It is a situation where you have a lot of drivers new to an area and then add into the mix a bunch of drivers that want to exceed the speed limit, cut people off, run red lights, etc.

We have a similar type of intersection near our home and local high school ... you always wait and look before you enter the intersection when your light turns green. Interestingly though, I also see the police drive this way and have never seen a ticket issued at this intersectioni, even when a cop is sitting there!!!
 
Whatever works. I, too, have learned to wait after a light turns green becuase running red lights is so bad here.

Actually in Brevard County you don't get a ticket if you are halfway into the intersection before the light turns red, which to me seems to promote the practice since people who are making left hand turns will wait in the middle of the intersection and then when the light turns red they go. :rolleyes:
 

I don't think them giving tickets is the issue, it's that they are dressed as homeless people. I guess even that is not PC. But if they were dressed just like everyone else, I think the would be looked at for standing in one place for so long. Just my opinion :)
 
"It's ironic that they would use a disguise of someone that people think of as visually offensive," Brown said. "I just think it shows that the community's aware of the homeless problem. I wish they would solve it, rather than masquerading."

Talk about missing the point . . . . don't most people find the homeless to be "invisible"? At least, that's usually the point of the articles I've read from other 'homeless advocates.' People don't want to make eye contact, so they don't really see the homeless undercover cops. It obviously worked - if they were carrying signs & still caught 171 people!

So sad, so typical - nothing we do is ever our fault!

Deb
 
Of course that would never work here in DC - there wouldn't be room at the intersections for the police officers because of all of the vagrants that are already there.

too true, brenda. :(
 
I don't have a problem with it. There is one major intersection close by both my home and workplace. There are at least two to three accidents a week there. It is a divided road so the lights are red longer and no one seems to want to wait so they run it. We were just discussing at work yesterday (after witnessing our fifth accident in two weeks) that something needs to be done.
 
Originally posted by Miss Jasmine
people who are making left hand turns will wait in the middle of the intersection and then when the light turns red they go.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that practice, in some intersections you must do it if you hope to get through. When I took traffic class in NC (you can get your first ticket wiped out if you go), they said it was okay but only for one car at a time to enter the intersection.
 
I also don't have a problem with police dressing like homeless people. How can you be sure that all the other people that dress as homeless ARE really homeless. Do they issue some sort of license to state that you absolutely CANNOT get some type of work and that you absolutely HAVE extinguished all government/church organizations' help. I have first hand knowledge of homeless stories that are a little more complicated than simply being without a home.

I don't mean to be mean about it, but in order to be politically correct do you really have to be a office worker to wear a suit? Do you have to be a farmer to wear bib overalls?

Law enforcement has typically dressed to blend in with their envirnoment in order to catch those breaking the law. Do the people complaining this incident also have a problem with police officers dressing as prostitutes in a sting?

They could just be saving someone's life by issuing traffic citations and, hopefully, changing the driving habits of many drivers ... maybe your's or your child's.

I'm all for it - politically correct or not.
 


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