Pls inform me about Jehovah Witness

[Iggipolka]

False religions such as JW and LDS that lead people away from the true message of our Lord and Savior do the ultimate harm to other people.

So, I'm curious. How do you feel about Jewish People?

 

[Disneyrsh]

So, I'm curious. How do you feel about Jewish People?

Uh oh. Take cover...

 

[bgirldeb]

The bit about Satan begining the Trinity was a quote from the second President of Jehovah's Witnesses, a man by the name of Joseph F Rutherford.
It was in his book, "Let God be True" 2nd edition, pp.101-102.
As far as Jesus being higher than the angels, and not one himself, my translation of Hebrews 1 is different than your translation, but says plainly that He is far grater than an Angel. It's interesting the different ways everyone perceives the text.

Oh!- OK- I thought you said something about the holy spirit being from Satan. We do believe that the Trinity has pagan origins, so that's probably where that quote came from.

I don't have time at the moment to look up the other scriptures at this moment about the archangel (for you and everybody that was asking)- I just basically stuck one in there, but there is more of an explanation for that. I'll try to post back later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[frndshpcptn]

Intersting question - how do you feel?

 

[BelleMcNally]

Uh oh. Take cover...

My thoughts exactly

 

[zagafi]

We do believe that the Trinity has pagan origins, so that's probably where that quote came from.

HUH? Explain, please.

 

[JennyMominRI]

So does that mean there is no Satan?

There is no devil..There is a Satan but he works for g-d. I've heard hi described as G-d s prosecuting attorney..
The Hebrew words for scourge and accuser are generally translated in Christian texts to Devil or Satan..Satan is only mentioned once in the Tanakh and that is in the book of Job where G-d let him test Job
Edited to add. Sorry,I thought he was asking about Satan in Judaism

 

[sarbruis]

The Hebrew words for scourge and accuser are generally translated in Christian texts to Devil or Satan

You've mentioned Hebrew twice (I think), but what about the Greek? You could be meaning both (and I haven't read either original texts), but I would think that the Greek would be a bit different than the Hebrew and thus translated as Satan or Devil accurately.

EDIT: I just did a search on the greek, and here's what I got:

satanaV,n {} (<--Imagine GREEK LETTERS (they didn't transfer))
1) adversary (one who opposes another in purpose or act), the name given to 1a) the prince of evil spirits, the inveterate adversary of God and Christ 1a1) he incites apostasy from God and to sin 1a2) circumventing men by his wiles 1a3) the worshippers of idols are said to be under his control 1a4) by his demons he is able to take possession of men and inflict them with diseases 1a5) by God's assistance he is overcome 1a6) on Christ's return from heaven he will be bound with chains for a thousand years, but when the thousand years are finished he will walk the earth in yet greater power, but shortly after will be given over to eternal punishment 1b) a Satan-like man

 

[JennyMominRI]

You've mentioned Hebrew twice (I think), but what about the Greek? You could be meaning both (and I haven't read either original texts), but I would think that the Greek would be a bit different than the Hebrew and thus translated as Satan or Devil accurately.

I'm only talking about the Tanakh ,which is originally a hebrew document..The NT is the one generally translated from Greek. I would assume they translate the greek correctly

 

[sarbruis]

Right. And I'm not sure what I was try to do by asking that question. And I'm not sure what you mean by JWs believe there is not devil but there is a Satan.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Right. And I'm not sure what I was try to do by asking that question. And I'm not sure what you mean by JWs believe there is not devil but there is a Satan.

I was talking about Judaism..I believe JW's believe in both...

 

[sarbruis]

AHA! I misunderstood.

But I do have some more questions:

-Do JWs believe that you have to be alive during the Apocalypse to be part of the 144,000?

-How does that tie-in to what is written in the Bible about salvation? Specifically:

Romans 10:9
For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

-What do JWs believe that salvation is?

-Also, I've read somewhere that after the 1,000 years of Paradise Earth, people will be given a last test, and those that pass will be allowed into heaven. Is this correct? And if so, when does the Bible speak of this second test?

-What does ex-communication from the Watchtower mean? As in, what are the effects of being ex-communicated?

-And lastly, what is the chief goal of a Jehovah's Witness and what part does the Watchtower play in that chief goal?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

It is Biblical to point out false teachers and religions.

JW IS a false religion and a cult.

ITA. Well said.

 

[JennyMominRI]

AHA! I misunderstood.

But I do have some more questions:

-Do JWs believe that you have to be alive during the Apocalypse to be part of the 144,000?

- No..NUmbered among that 144,00 are even some OT time people like Abraham
Romans 10:9
For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

-What do JWs believe that salvation is?
It means that the *saved* will be ressurected to a new Paradise earth..A return to Eden if you like

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-And lastly, what is the chief goal of a Jehovah's Witness and what part does the Watchtower play in that chief goal?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

It is to spread the *good new* to everyone on earth..It is believed that once everyone has heard the good news and had a chance to become a Christian that the New World will begin..This is why they go door to door

 

[mafibisha]

Yes,people can lie on their websites and this would include the "official" Watchtower Jehovah's Witnesses home page.

Oh yes, very very true.

It is Biblical to point out false teachers and religions.

JW IS a false religion and a cult..

ITA also!

 

[sarbruis]

Nevermind; I didn't see that you had the answers in the quote.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Nevermind; I didn't see that you had the answers in the quote.

You do not have to be alive during the armagedden to be one of the 144,000 In fact some of the 144,000 are believed to be people like Abraham,Isaac etc.
Can you be more specific with that second question.

 

[sarbruis]

Okay, so 144,000 preside over all of the "saved" in Paradise Earth? Is this correct? And Paradise Earth lasts for 1,000 years? And then how do the people in Paradise Earth get to heaven? What happens to those that don't (Lake of Fire, second death?)?

By second question I'm assuming you mean the "What do JWs believe salvation is?" one, right? I just want to know how you interpret that piece of scripture I posted.

"For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

What do JWs believe the "you will be saved" part means? From your answer, it seems like it's believed that the saved go to Paradise Earth.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Okay, so 144,000 preside over all of the "saved" in Paradise Earth? Is this correct? And Paradise Earth lasts for 1,000 years? And then how do the people in Paradise Earth get to heaven? What happens to those that don't (Lake of Fire, second death?)?

By second question I'm assuming you mean the "What do JWs believe salvation is?" one, right? I just want to know how you interpret that piece of scripture I posted.

"For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

What do JWs believe the "you will be saved" part means? From your answer, it seems like it's believed that the saved go to Paradise Earth.

Just a reminder that I'm not a JW,but I did study with them for a year. You are getting it..Saved means saved to a paradise earth..T
'From the official siteGod's Original Purpose Will Be Fulfilled
Though God purposed to take some from the human family to serve as corulers with Jesus Christ in the heavenly Kingdom, that does not mean that all good people go to heaven. Jehovah created the earth to be the Paradise home of the human family. Very soon now, God will have that original purpose fulfilled.—Matthew 6:9, 10.

Under the rule of Jesus Christ and his heavenly corulers, peace and happiness will prevail in all the earth. (Psalm 37:9-11) Those in God's memory will be resurrected and will enjoy perfect health. (Acts 24:15) By their faithfulness to God, obedient mankind will be granted what our original parents lost—everlasting life in human perfection on a paradise earth.—Revelation 21:3, 4.

Jehovah God never fails to accomplish what he purposes to do. Through his prophet Isaiah, he declared: "Just as the pouring rain descends, and the snow, from the heavens and does not return to that place, unless it actually saturates the earth and makes it produce and sprout, and seed is actually given to the sower and bread to the eater, so my word that goes forth from my mouth will prove to be. It will not return to me without results, but it will certainly do that in which I have delighted, and it will have certain success in that for which I have sent it."—Isaiah 55:10, 11.

In the Bible book of Isaiah, we get a preview of what life will be like in the Paradise earth. No inhabitant of Paradise will say, "I am sick." (Isaiah 33:24) Animals will pose no danger to man. (Isaiah 11:6-9) People will build beautiful homes and inhabit them and will plant crops and eat to satisfaction. (Isaiah 65:21-25) Moreover, God "will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces."—Isaiah 25:8.

Soon, obedient mankind will live under such blessed conditions. They "will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God." (Romans 8:21) How wonderful it will be to live forever in the promised earthly Paradise! (Luke 23:43) You can be there if you act upon accurate knowledge of the Scriptures and exercise faith in Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. And you can have confidence that it does make sense to believe in a paradise earth.
And from WIKIPEDIA,because I wasn't knowledgable enough about question 2
A "Great Crowd" of Jehovah's Witnesses is now living that will survive the coming battle of Armageddon and have the prospect of living forever in an earthly paradise. (based on Revelation 7:9-17)
Humans who do not actively side with Jehovah by becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses will be killed at Armageddon without consideration for age. (based on Ezekiel 9; Insight On the Scriptures 1988, Vol. 1 p. 849)
An unknown number of dead people from past ages will be resurrected after Armageddon, with the prospect of living forever in an earthly paradise, but those who have already been judged by God will not (such as any killed at Armageddon). (based on John 5:28,29; John 11:25; Acts 24:15)
After Armageddon, Christ will rule for a thousand years, during which the Earth will be transformed into a paradise, while Satan is abyssed and unable to influence mankind. (Revelation 20:1-3) At the end of this time, Satan will be released, and the final judgement will take place during which Satan and all those corrupted by him will be destroyed forever, and evil will never again occur. (based on Revelation 20:7-10; Revelation 21:1-4)

 

[sarbruis]

Okay, thank you very much. But one thing I'm still uncertain about: How do JWs believe that one gets to heaven? I looked through the Watchtower's topics, but didn't see anything about heaven.