Please Help: My Dog Killed My Other Dog Today-Updated Post #166

Christine

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Here's a quick picture that I could find of Lola. This is when she sits down in the computer area with my DD.

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Here's a picture of Paisley to get an idea of what type of breed she is:

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I know that some of you may think I'm nuts for posting this on the DIS but I really need someone to 'talk' to and I need to get this out. I have talked to my "real life" friends on the phone already but talking out loud seems to really upset me and it is raising my heart rate so bad.

I have two dogs--Paisley (a beagle/hound mix that I rescued from a shelter) and Lola, my 10-lb Jack Russell Terrier.

We got Lola as a puppy about a year after we had Paisley. They seemed to get along well for a year at least. Then, when I went on vacation and my parents were sitting the dogs, Paisley attacked Lola while my Dad was feeding them. This had never happened and we had no idea of such a thing. I assumed that it was because Paisley gets "edgy" with people other than her own family and maybe there was something in the way that my dad fed them that elicited the response. My dad got bit breaking up the fight also. After this incident, I tried to find Lola another home--with my parents, with my in-laws, and with one of my co-workers. No one seemed wild about taking her and there was NO WAY I was going to put her at a shelter. So, I kept her and tried to be as vigilent as I could.

From then on, I fed them separately. About a year later, Paisley started a fight with Lola over a dog toy. It wasn't serious and I got them separated. No more dog toys.

Other than that, I keep a close eye on them and all has been well.

Except for today. :guilty:

Lola mainly likes to hang out in the house with me, and Paisley would spend the whole day in the yard. I went out on the deck to clean the outside part of the sliding glass door (we get lots of doggie "nose juice" on the window). Lola decided to come out with me--she likes being out when I am outside. She went down in the yard and I went back in the house. I then started vacuuming and cleaning inside. Probably 20 minutes went by. Then I started making my lunch. I happened to glance outside and I saw my poor baby Lola laying in the yard. Now, she is a Jack Russell. I have NEVER seen this dog lay in the yard. I ran outside immediately (Paisley was on the deck). I screamed "Lola". She raised her and looked at me. "Oh Dear God" was all I could think. I ran to her and saw she had a gash in her neck and blood in her mouth. I quickly scooped her up (meanwhile Paisley is trying to go after her again). I gave Paisley a command and she backed off. I ran into the house, wrapped the dog in a towel, jumped in the car and headed for the animal ER. The traffic SUCKED. Lola was still conscious. About halfway there, she gave about 4 little snorts and then I could tell that something was different.

My poor baby died in my arms in the car. :guilty: I immediately turned the car around and went back to my regular vet's office. He doesn't have a vet on staff on Saturday's, but I am comfortable there and knew that I wanted to leave her there.

When I got there, there were only two techs working. They spent nearly 30 minutes checking for a pulse and a heartbeat. They kept thinking they heard something but I don't think so. You could tell she was dead. I had to wait there awhile because some people came into the lobby to buy stuff and I was covered from shirt to pants in blood as well as exrement.

It was so awful. And I am so heartbroken. I keep saying "What if I hadn't cleaned the windows?" "What if I hadn't vacummed?" I could have heard her or helped.

My sweet little dog was following me around the house today and now she is dead. I have been crying, uncontrollably for hours. For some reason my heart is beating so hard and it won't stop. My poor son, who saw some of it, keeps throwing up.

In the meantime, the vet tech said that I might want to consider putting my other dog down. Of course, right now I am very upset with her (Paisley), but she is an animal, not a human--I don't think she even realizes she did a thing. I don't know WHY she did this but I don't think I can deal with losing two dogs. She is very good with our family but I don't know what to make of this AT ALL. I was told that I could talk to my regular vet on Monday and that he could probably give me some good ideas about what to do about Paisley.

I'm sorry to keep rambling--I am just devastated beyond belief that I will never see my little sweetheart again. She had her little 'problems' that I complained about here (housetraining), but now she is gone. She was so tiny and she was my baby--the one that sat in my lap and I cuddled.

I feel so bad that I let her down.

If you have any helpful words or even any advice about my other dog, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss.
But if your dog attacked another dog, it could happen again. Or it could be a neighbor's pet - or baby.
Ultimately, it's up to you.
 
Christine I am so very sorry this happened to your dog. I'm crying as I type this. You need to put the other dog down. She is just a dog- but it isn't safe to have her around ANYONE. Some might disagree with me- but I would NEVER trust her around animal or human again. What if your son had tried to intervene in the dog fight? I cringe at the thought.

Again, I am so sorry. I can't imagine the pain you are going through. :grouphug:
 
Oh no Christine! I wish you were close by some I could come give you a huge hug. :hug: Know that you'll be in my prayers. I'm so sorry!!! Please don't beat yourself up over this. You can't keep thinking of the what ifs. If anyone isn't 100% supportive ignore them.
 
That is really sad, I know this must be a very hard time for you. :hug: You just need to know she's happy and watching over you now. I know you'll miss her but now she's safe, in heven.
 
I am so sorry for you...and afraid you should put the other dog down too...that is just not normal. Don't blame yourself, obviously there is something wrong with that dog. Try to remember you gave love to your dog every day, and they sense that..even at the end. You did the totally right thing. :grouphug:
 
I am sorry for your loss. I think the other dog needs to be put down as awful as that will be. She already killed another dog, who knows what she could do next.
 
I feel terrible for you, but I have no advice. :grouphug:
 
Mermaid02 said:
Christine I am so very sorry this happened to your dog. I'm crying as I type this. You need to put the other dog down. She is just a dog- but it isn't safe to have her around ANYONE. Some might disagree with me- but I would NEVER trust her around animal or human again. What if your son had tried to intervene in the dog fight? I cringe at the thought.

Again, I am so sorry. I can't imagine the pain you are going through. :grouphug:



I, too, am so sorry, but I have to agree with the above post. How horrible for you.
 
I'm very sorry for your loss.

Regarding your other dog I'm really not sure what advice to give. I'm guessing it was a teritorial thing, but if he is aggressive to other dogs when you are out then I would consider at the very least keeping the dog on a lead at all times when out of your house.

Often dogs can show aggression to other dogs but it never transcends to aggression towards humans.
 
I'm so sorry, we've had one of our dogs attack the other and it can be scary thankfully she survived. Once we calmed down and especially now that we know the dog that was attacked better (we'd had her about 3mths at the time, pound adoption) we realized that she was probably the instigator but the other dog is about 4x bigger so it just doesn't work. Like you at first we thought we'd get rid of one dog but there just arent many people willing to take older dogs. We've solved it by keeping them completely separated and it's working out so far.

I wouldn't do anything right now, I think you need to wait and see how you heal and how you feel about your dog. If you decide to keep her she'd always need to be an only dog. She was acting on instinct, hard to say what can trigger the episodes but with the size difference it can be devastating.
 
Oh, my. You poor thing. :hug:

There isn't anything you could have done, Christine. Don't beat yourself up about this; animals sometimes do things we'd never expect.
 
Mermaid02 said:
Christine I am so very sorry this happened to your dog. I'm crying as I type this. You need to put the other dog down. She is just a dog- but it isn't safe to have her around ANYONE. Some might disagree with me- but I would NEVER trust her around animal or human again. What if your son had tried to intervene in the dog fight? I cringe at the thought.

Again, I am so sorry. I can't imagine the pain you are going through. :grouphug:


I totally agree, the remaining dog is dangerous and needs to be put down. I'm so sorry for your loss, can't imagine the horror of what you went through.

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I'm so sorry to hear you are going through this. No advice, just :hug: .
 
I'm crying too. :sad2:

I'm so sorry. :grouphug: I don't know what to say.

My cat Splash was jealous of any attention that I would give to our other cat Lucy. Splash would swat & hiss at Lucy. But never to the extent of actual fighting. Unfortunately, Lucy just learned to be the meak one & stay out of Splash's way. :guilty:
 
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Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope everything works out for you and your family. Take time to consider how you're going to deal with Paisley. This sounds like a territorial issue, probably wouldn't have ever acted that way toward a human.
 
From what I can read both dogs were dominate and both of them were trying to control the house. Lola got special treatment from you and Paisley was waiting for his chance to take the other dog out.

I am sorry for your loss....I don't know what I would do in your situation.
 
Thank you so much for your responses. Just reading them has caused me to cry more (I think that's a good thing though).

I'm really not sure what to do about the other dog. I know that, today, it is not a decision I can make. I will tell you that I *adore* my veterinarian and he is one of the most compassionate animal lovers that I have ever met. I am going to talk this over with him on Monday and see how he feels about it.

The aggressive dog never goes outside the yard and I rarely walk her (we have a HUGE backyard). Our youngest child is almost 12 so we do not have any small children nor do we have any visit.

Other than that, with people she is a truly loving dog. I know it is hard to hear that after I just detailed a most vicious story.

In fact, she had a huge chunk of skin pulled off of her and my husband is at the ER with her now. For some reason, my husband has some idea that my dog was attached by something else. We have chicken wire around the lower half of the fence and it has been pulled back and something has been digging from the other side. At first he thought that maybe the little dog got "caught" on it. And according to the ER vet, the laceration the bigger dog has is not consistent with a dog bite but some kind of tear.

I just cannot imagine what else would have gotten into my yard and killed my little dog and then gotten out.
 
The Mystery Machine said:
From what I can read both dogs were dominate and both of them were trying to control the house. Lola got special treatment from you and Paisley was waiting for his chance to take the other dog out.

I am sorry for your loss....I don't know what I would do in your situation.

Actually Lola was extremely submissive (imagine that in a JRT). And I mean EXTREMELY submissive. She knew Paisley was in control and followed her around. Lola didn't get special treatment from me at all, she just preferred to stay indoors all the time, while Paisley LOVES to be outside all day.
 












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