Planning on seeing Twilight? Think again

[RickinNYC]

Yeah, I've become a bit ashamed in general with the LGBT community, nor that I ever saw a LGBT community, mainly just people, thats how I prefer it. Mainly because their retaliation method in situation's like these is hate vs. hate. And people sometimes wonder why we arent given the "same" rights or viewed as equal, I believe our actions speak for that. A poster wants to boycott S. Meyer because he believes she money is being used against gays. I''ve been boycotting gay days in wdw, carefully planning my trips after june, because I the way it's portrayed/handled gives gay's a tacky and slightly trashy look. To each their own, is all I can get out of this one for now.

Peace

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, and you are encouraged to post your counterpoint. Just be prepared to be disagreed with.

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, and you are encouraged to post your counterpoint. Just be prepared to be disagreed with

Yeah, I figured, but to be honest that's the least of my worries.

 

[Chuck S]

Yeah, I figured, but to be honest that's the least of my worries.

You still never answered the question of why not going to see this particular movie is fundamentally different from not seeing any movies at Cinemark.

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

You should look more closely Merryweather asked the same question, and I did answer her. But I suppose you want it in further blatent detail, for a lack of better term, it's petty, the way alot of gay people are acting. No Im not talking about this one situation, for a short time now I've grown to be very ashamed of how this situation (Prop. 8) has been handled by the "lgbt community". You make your list of enemies like that gives you some form of comfort, and that once you boycott all enemies big and small, eveything will be all-right? I just refuse to live under that sad delusion.

 

[Chuck S]

You should look more closely Merryweather asked the same question, and I did answer her. But I suppose you want it in further blatent detail, for a lack of better term it's petty. No Im not talking about this one situation, for a short time now I've grown to be very ashamed of how this situation (Prop 8) has been handled by the "lgbt community". You make your list of enemies like that gives you some form of comfort, and that once you boycott, eveything will be all-right. I just refuse to live under that sad delusion.

Again, you're boycotting Cinemark, that's not petty...but not seeing a particular movie is petty? I still don't see any fundamental differences between the two situations.

If you are avoiding Cinemark, isn't that just as petty as what you are accusing those of us that choose not to see Twilight?

I really don't see not supporting a movie where 10% of the profits will go to a Religious organization that fought hard, and is continuing to fight through support of Prop 8 through the courts, to rescind my marriage rights as petty.

 

[JohnZ46]

I wish I could say that I was boycotting Twilight.

But, to me, the series is the literary equivalent of Hanna Montana so there was no chance of me spending anything on it anyway.

As far as boycotts go, I'm not going to support people, businesses, or organizations that seek to oppress me. If that gets anyone's undies in a twist then so be it.

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

Again, you're boycotting Cinemark, that's not petty...but not seeing a particular movie is petty? I still don't see any fundamental differences between the two situations.

If you are avoiding Cinemark, isn't that just as petty as what you are accusing those of us that choose not to see Twilight?

I really don't see not supporting a movie where 10% of the profits will go to a Religious organization that fought hard, and is continuing to fight through support of Prop 8 through the courts, to rescind my marriage rights as petty.

Nobody has been able to find the article or interview where S. Meyer says this
I've looked, all last night. Seeing the film is the argument at hand, so until someone can find me proof, this is one bandwagon I'll gladly let pass by.

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

I wish I could say that I was boycotting Twilight.

But, to me, the series is the literary equivalent of Hanna Montana so there was no chance of me spending anything on it anyway.
As far as boycotts go, I'm not going to support people, businesses, or organizations that seek to oppress me. If that gets anyone's undies in a twist then so be it.

So have you, or have you not actually read them? I realize this post is about the film, but if your going to attack the books, Im curious if you just didnt find them enjoyable, or if your just throwing an ill attack to join the group.

 

[rpmdfw]

Nobody has been able to find the article or interview where S. Meyer says this
I've looked, all last night. Seeing the film is the argument at hand, so until someone can find me proof, this is one bandwagon I'll gladly let pass by.

Okay, just for clarification sake. It's not that 10% of the movie's profits that will be donated to the Mormon church, it's 10% of Stephenie Meyer's portion of the total profits that will be given as her TITHE to her church.

 

[RickinNYC]

Okay, just for clarification sake. It's not that 10% of the movie's profits that will be donated to the Mormon church, it's 10% of Stephenie Meyer's portion of the total profits that will be given as her TITHE to her church.

Exactly

 

[wallyb]

But, to me, the series is the literary equivalent of Hanna Montana so there was no chance of me spending anything on it anyway.

Wow I'm so glad you said this!
I like to think of it as a - teen harlequin romance with fake fangs.

 

[Chuck S]

Did you check the article in the August issue of Time?

Aside from Mitt Romney, you seem to be the most popular Mormon right now in the U.S. Do you feel that you are a good representative of your religion? —Mary-Jean Corriss CENTRAL, ISLIP, N.Y.
Being Mormon is a big part of who I am, and I try very hard to live the right way, but I don't know that I'm an example. I hate to say, "Yes, look at me. I'm a good example of being Mormon." I want to be the best person I can be, so in that aspect, maybe I'm a good example.

If being Mormon is a "big part of who she is" she would be tithing 10% of her income, including the income from the books, movie, and future DVD sales, no?

 

[RickinNYC]

Wow I'm so glad you said this!
I like to think of it as a - teen harlequin romance with fake fangs.

Joe had picked up a copy of this to possibly bring it in to his classroom. From his perspective, it's very much written for the junior high/high school population. I didn't read that stuff when I was that age so I have no interest in doing so now. Nevertheless, I'm a huge fan of any book that gets kids to put down the video game controls, turn off the TV and READ that I do have very mixed feelings about Ms. Meyer.

 

[wallyb]

Joe had picked up a copy of this to possibly bring it in to his classroom. From his perspective, it's very much written for the junior high/high school population. I didn't read that stuff when I was that age so I have no interest in doing so now. Nevertheless, I'm a huge fan of any book that gets kids to put down the video game controls, turn off the TV and READ that I do have very mixed feelings about Ms. Meyer.

I agree the reading part is good.
Too bad the impetus of her idea was not so derivative.

 

[merryweather20]

You should look more closely Merryweather asked the same question, and I did answer her. But I suppose you want it in further blatent detail, for a lack of better term, it's petty, the way alot of gay people are acting. No Im not talking about this one situation, for a short time now I've grown to be very ashamed of how this situation (Prop. 8) has been handled by the "lgbt community". You make your list of enemies like that gives you some form of comfort, and that once you boycott all enemies big and small, eveything will be all-right? I just refuse to live under that sad delusion.

I was asking repeatedly because I didn't see your answer. I still don't see an answer, and I don't see any clues in the post that I quoted.

Its the same as the Cinemark situation which you said you didn't have a problem with and in fact would participate in. I would certainly try to boycott enemies! Why keep company or do business with enemies, at worst it could be dangerous! Why is this "petty" as you said, and not the Cinemark deal.

I'm not local by any means, but I was very impressed by how the lgbt community handled the hate and violence from the other side, even though they eventually lost the prop 8 battle It further affirmed my theory, that the group in the right always handles their fight with class and dignity and never resorts to acts of violence.

No one is advocating censorship here.

No is advocating book burning.

Some people would simply not give there money to people who actively work to take away the rights of other people.

There's no dillusion here, just a couple of people who won't be buying a movie ticket.

Maybe I come at it from a different perspective, because usually when I feel discrimination its because of a real physical barrier. The Pizza Pizza near my apartment spent $250,000 scared1: ) renovating the front of their store, and didn't include a ramp. I wrote and asked them why, and they said that the structural changes weren't significant enough that they were required to add one. That wasn't the point, though. For $250,000 they could have incorporated a great ramp into the front of their store, they didn't even have to spend any extra money. I feel like they should have wanted me and other patrons who used wheelchairs and walkers to visit their store. But through dislike or indifference, they decided not to. I don't visit Pizza Pizza because their lack of consideration means I physically cannot. Its not a "petty" punitive boycott.

Likewise with the Cinemark and Meyer deals they could have made different choices, ones that did not work against a specific group (in this case to inact hateful legislation). There is no physical barrier here, but it doesn't make the environment any more hospitable. Once you're in you are doing business with someone that works against you.

 

[JohnZ46]

So have you, or have you not actually read them? I realize this post is about the film, but if your going to attack the books, Im curious if you just didnt find them enjoyable, or if your just throwing an ill attack to join the group.

I tried the first book. A girl that I work with really likes this series so she loaned the book to me to try. I'll admit that I only read a couple of chapters.

I found the characters to be two dementional. They're either all perfect or all evil. They fall in love forever instantly. It just seems to be written in an overly dramatic manner aimed at teenage girls.

if your just throwing an ill attack to join the group.

You got me. I posted my "attack" because I'm afraid that Rick and Wally will beat me up after school. Seriously

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

Yeah, you missed the point on that one

 

[rpmdfw]

Yeah, you missed the point on that one

Wait a minute. You asked if he'd read the books. He said that he had tried but couldn't get through the first one.

He's entitled to his opinion, just as you're entitled to yours. No one has attacked you because you like the books, don't belittle him for not liking them.

Having not tried reading them myself, I offered no opinions on how good they are, because I agree with you. A person should at least give it a try before saying it's good or bad.

I don't care if they're good or bad, I'm not buying them for purely financial reasons.

 

[Zspa<3ariel]

My response wasnt about his opinion of the books. But the "bandwagon" remark. Nobody is trying to belittle anybody.

 

[rpmdfw]

My response wasnt about his opinion of the books. But the "bandwagon" remark. Nobody is trying to belittle anybody.

Sorry. It looked like you were bashing him for not liking the book.

My bad.