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Noles2002

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Hubby and I have decided to bring the 3 kiddos to WDW next spring. The kids first time! It's mostly for our 8 year old daugher and 6 year old son, the 2 year old is just along for the ride. I've just started looking into planning options and seem to be very overwhelmed. I have been to Disney quite a few times when I lived in Florida during college (live in CT now), but we obviously weren't into character meetings, etc. We just showed up, bought tickets, and enjoyed the day. Doesn't seem to be the case now. What exactly needs to be PLANNED other than flight and hotel options obviously? And when do we book these options? I was going to try and wait until Jan to book (for an April arrival) as I've seen in the past they have discounts available. Will I lose out on things by waiting this long? We do plan on staying on property as our 2 year old who will need to go back for naps. Any help or direction would much appreciated!!! Thanks in advance!
 
Hubby and I have decided to bring the 3 kiddos to WDW next spring. The kids first time! It's mostly for our 8 year old daugher and 6 year old son, the 2 year old is just along for the ride. I've just started looking into planning options and seem to be very overwhelmed. I have been to Disney quite a few times when I lived in Florida during college (live in CT now), but we obviously weren't into character meetings, etc. We just showed up, bought tickets, and enjoyed the day. Doesn't seem to be the case now. What exactly needs to be PLANNED other than flight and hotel options obviously? And when do we book these options? I was going to try and wait until Jan to book (for an April arrival) as I've seen in the past they have discounts available. Will I lose out on things by waiting this long? We do plan on staying on property as our 2 year old who will need to go back for naps. Any help or direction would much appreciated!!! Thanks in advance!

Booking in January will be fine as, historically speaking, that's when discounts for April are released to the general public. Just make sure to stay on top of the releases as the rooms do sell out fast. You'll want to make sure to create a My Disney Experience account and have valid tickets linked to said account as you'll need both to book FP+. You can book 60 days prior to your check-in date and are allowed 3 FP+ selections per person per day in advance. Epcot and DHS have a tiered system where you can book one from Tier 1 and two from Tier 2. After all 3 advance selections are used or expired, you can book a 4th FP+ at an in-park kiosk, and after the 4th you can book a 5th, and so on.
 
Well, I have booked only three months before a trip a couple of times. But, know that if you want to eat at table service restaurants, that they open ADRs at 180 days, so it can be difficult to get an ADR for things like the more popular character meals and Be Our Guest, and the signature restaurants. I was able to book a few table service meals, but I had to be very open with my times and not very picky about what restaurants I got.

These days, I would say the minimum things that need to be planned are your park days (and I recommend crowd calendars to pick the best days to go to each park), ADRs, and lastly, your three FP+ for each park.
 
Well, I have booked only three months before a trip a couple of times. But, know that if you want to eat at table service restaurants, that they open ADRs at 180 days, so it can be difficult to get an ADR for things like the more popular character meals and Be Our Guest, and the signature restaurants. I was able to book a few table service meals, but I had to be very open with my times and not very picky about what restaurants I got.

These days, I would say the minimum things that need to be planned are your park days (and I recommend crowd calendars to pick the best days to go to each park), ADRs, and lastly, your three FP+ for each park.

You don't need to have a trip booked to make ADRs, though. The OP seems to know when they'll be going so she can start booking 180 days in advance, but on a daily basis instead of the 180+10.
 

You can usually book your on-site hotel earlier and have the discount applied after the fact, depending upon where you are staying and if the discount is applicable for that location and room type. If you go this route, keep a close eye out for when discounts are released, so that you can be sure you get one. They are technically limited. However, keeping an eye out is necessary whether you book early or not. The only thing you could lose out on by waiting to book a room is not getting the hotel or room type you want and also dining reservations, which I discuss below. It depends if you are going near Easter, a very busy time, and which room type/hotel you want. If you are flexible, then it won't matter. I don't think most hotels would completely book up by Jan for an April stay. Here's a link to historical discounts and release dates.

http://www.mousesavers.com/historical-information-on-walt-disney-world-resort-discounts/#2015

In addition to room and FP+ as the previous poster mentioned, there are restaurant reservations, ADRs. If you stay on-site, you can start booking at 180 days from your first night stay and book up to 10 days after. So, if you are only staying 7 nights, then you can book all of your ADRs starting at 180 days from your first night. If you have not booked your room yet at 180 days or you stay off-site, then you can only book 180 days in advance for each day. This would require you to reserve each days ADRs nightly. So , if you have 7 nights, each day would have to be booked 180 days from that date, so for 7 nights you would need to check for ADRs on the website. ADRs for popular places can go very quickly, so waiting may keep you from getting some special ones. ADR booking starts at 6am EST online or 7am EST using the phone. FP+ booking usually starts at midnight EST. So, these are not pretty times to have to keep logging in and checking. You may need to be online checking right when stuff starts or you could miss out. It depends when Easter is compared to you when are going.
 
You don't need to have a trip booked to make ADRs, though. The OP seems to know when they'll be going so she can start booking 180 days in advance, but on a daily basis instead of the 180+10.

Oops. Thank you for clarifying that!
 
I may be an outlier here, but I would say the first thing to plan is whether you will stay on-site or off-site. The Disney bubble is a must for some, but there are a number of advantages to staying off-site, especially with 3 kids or if you are on a budget.

Advantages of staying off-site:
  1. More space for your money, including separate spaces. With small children we really appreciated not having to tip-toe around the nappers or turn out the lights in the whole space when it was the kids' bedtime.
  2. Availability of accommodations with kitchens. Good for budget maintenance, feeding kids who may not all be ready to eat at the same time all the time due to park schedules, or if you just find eating out more than once a day with your kids to be the exact opposite of a vacation (this was us). You can get villas with kitchens on-site at WDW, but they cost from 5-10x more than the same room off-site.
  3. Ability to leave the Disney bubble when your kids are massively overstimulated. This is one of those Your Mileage May Vary things, but for all that many will tell you how wonderful it is to be wrapped in the Disney bubble, there are people and families who find that the theming and crowds of the resorts is still just too much after a busy day in the parks, and leaving Disney entirely for something that resembles "normal" life allows them to come back more refreshed to the parks the next day.
Advantages of staying on-site:
  1. Access to EMH
  2. Access to FP+ booking at an earlier point
  3. Easier to split up if say one parent will take toddler back to room to nap while the other parent stays in park with kiddos -- no one is ever left without transportation
  4. Can avoid renting a car if you don't want to
A compromise is the hotels in Downtown Disney / Disney Springs -- many of these offer suite accommodations at a comparable or less price to Disney values and moderates. You won't have a full kitchen, but you may have an in-room fridge or kitchenette with microwave, and separate (from your rental car) transportation to the parks won't be optimal but it will exist. If separate spaces is appealing to you but you think you won't use a kitchen extensively and will split the party only rarely but it might happen, this might be the way to go. If you do decide to go "completely off-site", I would recommend looking into renting a condo, there are many available in the $100 / night range that will give you two bedrooms and a kitchen. For the same price as a hotel room, why wouldn't you want that?

Side-by-side with the decision on whether to stay on-site, you should consider your touring style which may be quite, quite different with kids than it was without kids. Things like breaking to take mid-day naps / rest, splitting up the party, desirability of having a rental car, etc. will help you make this decision. For instance, if you think you won't really plan to use EMH, then that is no longer an advantage of staying on-site. If you definitely don't want to rent a car, then that is an advantage of staying on-site. If you want to be flexible about sit-down meals because you don't know how it will go each day and you plan to eat them before or after a mid-day break, that would be an advantage of staying off-site (or at least getting a rental car) because it gives you access to a wide variety of off-site restaurants that you can reliably walk into without a reservation and get seated.

These same decisions about touring style will also give you some insight into what to plan across the board, for instance if you decide to stay off-site ADRs may be less of a priority except for one or two that you pick out as "must-dos". If you're only making 1-2 in-park ADRs, now you can do away with the overhead of picking your park days 180 days out so that your ADRs don't conflict with your planned parks. Conversely, if you decide to stay in the parks all day and leave before dinner, now you might really want to make sure you have a mid-day ADR each day for a chance to sit for a while and get out of the heat. This is especially true if you get the dining plan, as many kids (although maybe not yours, only you know them) will often do better with a TS meal mid-day when they have more stamina and a less-demanding-of-patience-and-manners food court meal in the evening when they are tired than the other way around.

Anyway, I've run on and on but I wanted to give a good justification for why I think on/off-site and overall touring style are the two things to plan first. But basically it boils down to: once you've decided these two things, many of the other decisions about what to plan / prioritize flow directly from them.
 
My biggest tip as you start this process is to not try to do it all. Remember to enjoy each day and don't get caught up in what you miss. If your kids want to spend more time on Tom Sawyer Island, then let them. If they want to spend more time at the pool, go ahead. Yes, I do advise having a plan in place - but one that can be adjusted as needed. I do advise making dining reservations 180 days out if staying on site - but also know if you don't get exactly what you want - we have been pleasantly surprised by our second choice and now some of those have become our favorites. We enjoy staying on property but also had good trips when we did not.
 
If you are going during your kids' school break, expect airfare to be crazy. We used to go in April all the time and we would pull the kids out of school a few days before or after our vacation week in order to get more reasonable airfares.
 
You have come to the right place for lots of good advice and info! #1. Pick your dates... Not arbitrarily, but informed decision. EasyWDW and touring plans both have fabulously accurate crowd calendars... Look them up and plan accordingly. #2. Based on your dates make your reservation for whichever resort you want. If you're choosing a time that will have reduced rates, you will be able to rebook for the discount. It's somewhat important to book 6 months out so you have access to the 180 day ADRs. #3. Now knowing which parks are better to visit on certain days, you can now start "blocking" your trip. Figuring out which park, what day. This will help in making your dining reservations for the one or two very important character meals. (Much easier and longer character interaction at character meals, such as Chef Mickey's.) #4. Relax, breathe, and enjoy, you now have 3 more months before you need to figure out fast passes. I know it sounds like as much planning as a Mideast peace summit, but it truly is fun to do, and your goal is a memorable family vacation! I hope all this isn't too overwhelming!
 
All of these posts are very good advice and you absolutely can make it happen all on your own with the help of the DIS, but if you are truly overwhelmed or confused, you might want to consider contacting a Disney Certified travel agent. A truly good agent can make touring plans that are as specific to your needs/wants as you want (or as general as you want them to be). TAs are usually well versed on the better options for families like yours and can help you maximize your time.

I booked our first family trip and was really clueless (I also hadn't discovered DIS at that point either!) But our subsequent trips have gone much smoother with the help of a veteran TA who is EXCELLENT with all things Disney.
 
Mousesavers has some excellent advice about TAs. You might want to check them out! Above poster is right on... I forget how overwhelming it is to be a newbie to WDW! Good luck!
 
Thanks for guidance so far everyone! I do know the dates, our April break, which falls weeks after Easter and according to the crowd charts is a low season as well. I do have it narrowed down to a few resorts, so that's done. It just seemed overwhelming with the scheduling of FP+, My Magic +, character meetings, dining reservations, etc. So it seems I can't do anything until 180 days before anyway. And from there I have to get my ADRS setup. With those, I get the character meetings right? So I guess I've got that to figure out, no biggie. I am also pretty sure I'm going to do park hopper options. So I do have a lot figured out.

But here's a question. ...I now understand you get to choose 3FP options ahead of time. Would you recommend doing my ADR, ride times, parade seats? Which fill up faster and which can wait until I get to the kiosk?

And what is the difference between MyMagic+ and FP+???

Thanks so much for your help!
 
I'd look at airfare ASAP and get that booked. School vacation weeks can be really expensive for airfare.
 
Thanks for guidance so far everyone! I do know the dates, our April break, which falls weeks after Easter and according to the crowd charts is a low season as well. I do have it narrowed down to a few resorts, so that's done. It just seemed overwhelming with the scheduling of FP+, My Magic +, character meetings, dining reservations, etc. So it seems I can't do anything until 180 days before anyway. And from there I have to get my ADRS setup. With those, I get the character meetings right? So I guess I've got that to figure out, no biggie. I am also pretty sure I'm going to do park hopper options. So I do have a lot figured out.

But here's a question. ...I now understand you get to choose 3FP options ahead of time. Would you recommend doing my ADR, ride times, parade seats? Which fill up faster and which can wait until I get to the kiosk?

And what is the difference between MyMagic+ and FP+???

Thanks so much for your help!

Your ADRs (advanced dining reservations) can be made at restaurants that have Character Meals. Character Meets in the parks are different.

Not sure if you have seen Mesaboy's FP+ thread. This is the thread to read all about how it works and what to pick for your FP + priorities. Here is the link:

http://www.disboards.com/threads/fa...ed-priorities-and-strategies-part-ii.3326057/

If you're staying on property you can make your FP+ from home, 60days in advance. 30 if off property.

My Magic + is the whole shebang, I guess. It includes all the things like FP+, Magic Bands, My Disney Experience App...
 
I have my crowd calender for the week after easter and its 6,7 and 8 the week of April 3 is less at 5,6 and 7's For me this is crowded as we go at 1,2,3 and some 4's
 


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