Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[accm]

Sorry, I'm playing around with the app and found something else I haven't seen mentioned. You can modify the date/park of an LLMP. So, I bought it for 08/03 for MK, and if I wanted to, I could modify it for 08/04 for HS.

 

[ThereYouSeeHer]

Sorry, I'm playing around with the app and found something else I haven't seen mentioned. You can modify the date/park of an LLMP. So, I bought it for 08/03 for MK, and if I wanted to, I could modify it for 08/04 for HS.

I've been waiting for information on this. Disney had mentioned you could do this, but I haven't seen reports yet.

Can you confirm what happens to the price? If someone previously bought the cheaper AK pass, can you tell if it makes you pay the difference to buy a more expensive option? If someone originally bought a more expensive MK pass and changed to a cheaper AK, does it give a refund?

 

[Haley R]

Hopefully they drop some more times because today’s availability looks pretty awful. BTMRR already out to 6 pm, HM gone, Pooh at 5 pm, pirates at 7. There’s not much hope of getting a good fourth LL at this point unless they release more

 

[accm]

I've been waiting for information on this. Disney had mentioned you could do this, but I haven't seen reports yet.

Can you confirm what happens to the price? If someone previously bought the cheaper AK pass, can you tell if it makes you pay the difference to buy a more expensive option? If someone originally bought a more expensive MK pass and changed to a cheaper AK, does it give a refund?

It does charge you the difference, and does not offer you a refund, which was expected.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

From speaking with my CM friend it does appear this is going to be a "growing pains" situation for a little bit on Disney knowing how many LL slots to release, from what they mentioned it was like they released too many slots to LL, they mentioned "oversold at the start of the day" which suggests the number of LL slots may need to be more spread out evenly throughout the day.

But this is expected with releasing a new program needing to tweak as you go plus with pre-planning there wasn't as much lead time. I think as the next several weeks and month go they'll get more info on what may work out better.

 

[spewey]

Just as a data point. RotR Single Pass is already sold out for tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday at the moment.

ETA: add Saturday and Sunday

Dave

Just checked the 31st is sold out as well

Wow. Did not expect this. On a couple days on our last trip (2022, late August) RotR had availability well into the afternoon. Now it's gone almost a week out?

Again, maybe something's missing, but from all the reports above of mid-tier rides booking up until late evening by 9AM, or even selling out, it does point to fewer LL spots than under Genie+. That would also explain the "empty" LLanes, which a couple of vloggers (such as Mr. Morrow) pointed out.

Speaking of Mr. Morrow - he, in so many words, said his initial impression was that the new system was a waste of money, as there were so few options beyond the first three. Which has been the concern of most of us, and is reflected on these threads.

Still hoping this is growing pains somehow.

 

[wdw&sonny]

Probably been answered many times;
Do you make your 3 selections BEFORE paying for the LLMP? Or, do you have to make the purchase, then you pick your 3 selections? This is big difference. I would want to know what I am paying for.

 

[accm]

Probably been answered many times;
Do you make your 3 selections BEFORE paying for the LLMP? Or, do you have to make the purchase, then you pick your 3 selections? This is big difference. I would want to know what I am paying for.

you make your selections before paying, which is an improvement over Genie+

 

[Dave006]

I just booked my LLs this morning at 7am for Saturday next week and earliest return time for Tiana was 3:10PM.

Did you just take the default that was offered or did you try the "Modify" link to see multiple available times?

Dave

 

[lowlight]

Something doesn’t make sense about the availability I’ve seen reported. It was estimated that DAS was using an enormous amount of LL capacity. They have drastically cut down on DAS usage, so theoretically Mulitpass should have a better availability of time slots than Genie+ did. It doesn’t, though, in fact it’s much worse from reports.

We can assume that they are going to put the same purchase limits on Multipass as they did on Genie+ (sells out when percentage of buyers hits x% of all park goers for day), which means it isn’t just the fact that it’s a shiny new thing all bloggers are buying. So maybe 1) they are lowering the limits of sales of MP temporarily/permanently 2) they are using MP as a paid way to distribute crowds throughout the day 3) they are limiting the number of LL’s to ease standby line wait times.

This isn’t even a busy time of year and the wait times being pushed out to late afternoon are worse than the abysmal times given when Genie+ launched. I’ll wait a few weeks to see how it settles before making a decision for our upcoming trips, but this seems like it solved a few issues and created a few more.

 

[Goofygirl514]

We love to do early entry since my kids and I are all super early risers anyways. One thing I liked about Genie+ is it took away the need for early entry for those who wanted to sleep in. Now I’m not really seeing the benefit of LLMP unless you get there early and have 3 early times you can try and tap in to get new times before 10/11 am. I can see it pushing people to go for early entry again.

 

[Belle1962]

We will be staying for 8 days with a 4 day ticket. We don’t plan on our first park day being until the third day of our trip. Since you can book all days (up to 10) of your trip at 7 days from your first date my question is: is it 7 days from your check-in day or 7 days from your actual first park day?

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I think in order to “fix” the issue at MK they need to make meet and greets and the parade available for LL.

ETA: and make 7DMT a LL. It’s a ten year old ride and doesn’t need to be on LLSP.

 

[Goofygirl514]

We will be staying for 8 days with a 4 day ticket. We don’t plan on our first park day being until the third day of our trip. Since you can book all days (up to 10) of your trip at 7 days from your first date my question is: is it 7 days from your check-in day or 7 days from your actual first park day?

The website says: “starting 7 days before the first day of their Resort stay, for their length of stay (up to 14 days).” as long as you’re staying on property.

 

[merdie]

We will be staying for 8 days with a 4 day ticket. We don’t plan on our first park day being until the third day of our trip. Since you can book all days (up to 10) of your trip at 7 days from your first date my question is: is it 7 days from your check-in day or 7 days from your actual first park day?

From check in, since reservations went away for regular, date-based tickets (assuming that’s what you have) Disney doesn’t know what day you plan to use them.

 

[Belle1962]

Thank you.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Wow - that's 9 days out for Tiana and mid-afternoon is the earliest time? That situation probably isn't going to improve for quite some time as people look to experience the new ride.

And as Disney has to throttle capacity because they can’t keep it running

 

[erionm]

We will be staying for 8 days with a 4 day ticket. We don’t plan on our first park day being until the third day of our trip. Since you can book all days (up to 10) of your trip at 7 days from your first date my question is: is it 7 days from your check-in day or 7 days from your actual first park day?

7 days from your check in date.

 

[TeamSy]

Oh man, I feel ranty. We got so much out of genie+ we thought it was a *value*. This new system seems horrendous unless you’re okay with just doing these 3 rides you pre-pick and standby the rest with maybe a random LL available in the evening here or there. So far it does not seem to allow for that land by land immediate use.

People are posting how *easy* it was to book their three and how it was great but that’s only a small piece of the puzzle - to keep up with genie+ for many it’s about getting an 7th… 8th… 12th!!

The thing that was nice about Genie+ is everything was released in chronological order. It allowed for 99% of the “tier 2’s” to be open for immediate use. And you were able to gauge the higher ticket ride sell out times by how late they were getting in the app. You could plan accordingly for the day on the day when it made sense.

Thrill data released a chart for thunder mountain the other day that showed the day before with genie+ - a nice steady even line - vs this new system, with it selling out early in the day.

As of (before 9am) this morning pirates return was 7pm!!!

As a big genie+ user this is insane to me!!! I have never seen things like 7DMT sell out until later in the day - and now it can days in advance!!

Personally, I would much rather be up at 7 and have everything released in order than be on my phone constantly checking for refreshes and jumping to all ends of the park based on what I can get on now! Sure, you were on your phone with genie+ but it really was just to book your next ride, not hoping for something to come up for something like pirates. It was quick and simple! With Genie+ (minus the “tier 1’s) you could go land by land! And get on everything! The tier 1’s did sell out earlier, but there was at least still the option to get them day of, and we always *easily* got another tier 1 as a second or even third pick. This is so all over the place, and I don’t think it’s just because it’s new, I think it’s the way the system is designed.

Personally I feel deflated. Our first trip with genie+ we had this feeling of getting that disney magic back. I think it was getting on so many rides so smoothly. It was such a fun day! The year after - the same thing!! It was a joy!! We couldn’t believe how well genie+ worked!

I’m looking forward to our trip less and less. I wish I waited to buy non refundable things. Or waited to tell the kids we are going. Travel insurance won’t cover I hate the new lightening lane and don’t want to do this lol. MK was always the first park but now I’m thinking it should be later to get that 7 “+” window. Otherwise youre up against way more people and the availability will stink! Unfortunately we already booked a split stay and will be at the MK hotel first.

This is going to be hard for those genie+ users like myself who knew how to work the system and haven’t waited in a standby line for years now

I mean why couldn’t we all just have sucked it up a little and gotten up at 7, booked a ride, and gone back to sleep for a bit?!

 

[Dave006]

I've been waiting for information on this. Disney had mentioned you could do this, but I haven't seen reports yet.

Can you confirm what happens to the price? If someone previously bought the cheaper AK pass, can you tell if it makes you pay the difference to buy a more expensive option? If someone originally bought a more expensive MK pass and changed to a cheaper AK, does it give a refund?

It does charge you the difference, and does not offer you a refund, which was expected.

Currently you only get the price difference charged if you are making changes before you tap into your first. We will need to keep watching how it works over some time.

This all Disney has posted on the matter... and they have posted nothing about pricing adjustments between park selection if you change your park or date in advance...

• Change your selected park and/or date in advance (subject to availability)—up until the moment you redeem your first Lightning Lane selection of the day.

Dave