Pixie dust is gone

Just got home tonight from WDW and we've decided that this is our last trip unless grandchildren come along years from now. Yes, we enjoyed our vacation but it is nothing like it use to be for us. And it has nothing to do with how we approached the trip either as we were so looking forward to it, it has everything to do with that feeling that we usually get but did not feel this time around.

FP+ & bands worked fine for those we prebooked - but once used by noon adding more was a moot point as nothing was left.

MNSSHP tickets would not work (showed up as park regular park tickets) and had to trek all the way back to City Hall and wait in line where we had to be issued new ones. There were tons of people in line upset.

Mine train was down at MK in the morning, had to back track to that ride later in the day. Nice little ride but not sure why all the hype or why it took so long to build.

MNSSHP - way too many tickets sold for this event compared to prior years.

Very big issue for me that I always thought WDW was a step above on: the parks, buses and boats are not as clean - especially the bathrooms. Bathrooms were so dirty, the sinks are stained, paint peeling and they use to smell nice all the time but did not at all this trip. The bus windows and hand bars were filthy, even first thing in the morning.

The parks really need fresh paint in many areas - something Disney use to keep up very well. It is looking very dated and in need of TLC.

Walls everywhere due to construction (AK, MK, DTD). Sure, we want them to add new things but it was very bad this trip to the point that the atmosphere was affected by it.

Cast members not very pleasant overall. Some even out right rude - especially at counter service. And it seems like there aren't as many CMs as there use to be which may be part of the problem. We felt like herded cattle all day long on the rides.

Photographers - we paid for Memory Maker and only encountered 2 photographers (one at AK and one at Epcot) who went out of their way to make special photos for us. Some even seemed put out to take pictures or snapped only one or two. Maybe this is because we are adults (my DS is 19 years old). We are glad to have the ride photos and a few of those out in the park turned out good but otherwise not so sure it was worth it.

The Swan was great, it was our first offsite stay but the location is perfect, the renovated rooms were nice and the buses were very convenient/quick compared to when we've stayed onsite.

We had a good time overall as we didn't let the above get to us. However, we've always chosen Disney for vacations as they always held a higher standard and had customer service that could not be beat. This time it really just felt like a theme park vacation with people pushing and shoving and not "Disney" magical at all. We feel Disney is putting greed before customer service these days. This was the first time we couldn't wait to leave and make the 12 hour drive home.

On the flip side, Universal is just getting better every visit. We stayed there for 3 nights before heading to WDW. The parks were super clean. The rides are very cool and up to date. There was a huge difference with the staff there compared to Disney - they were super super nice everywhere we went from the hotel, guest services, in the parks and City Walk. They truly made us feel special (like Disney use to). Visitors at Universal even seemed happier, smiling and joking. At Disney it seemed like so many people were having melt downs and walking around with haggard/frustrated faces while pushing their way through heavy crowds.

For us it is sad, but we know its time to move on.

Our opinion is only one of many but I will send Disney an email about our experience.

I'm sorry the WDW portion of your trip was less than stellar. I'm following in your footsteps in April for the Flower and Garden (not interested in the food) and staying at the Swan. I'm hoping the food is better at the Swan than at CBR or at CS.
But we're planning the Disney portion first and then moving over to Universal. I'm hoping with this strategy, Im saving the most relaxing and best portion of the trip for last. For my family, we would skip WDW altogether if it weren't for F&G. It will make planning easier since there aren't many attractions at EPCOT.
 
Honestly?

I still cry when I see little girls dressed up in their fairy tale princess dresses hug their favorite Disney princess for the first time. I still cry during the fireworks at Magic Kingdom and at the beginning of the Electric Parade because it reminds me of the first time I saw it as a little girl at Disneyland in California. I still get excited when we drive through the arch welcoming you home to Disney World. I still get excited about turning on the TV and watching the Disney World TV show as soon as we check into our resort.

I am literally puzzled about why people think the magic is gone. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Thank you for this post!! I feel the same way! I almost didn't want to read this thread, but I'm glad I did because there is far more positive in it than negative. I think the OP just wanted to hear us all talk about the pixie dust that is STILL THERE .. I hope we helped that OP but I know for sure that posts like this one and many more have uplifted many people! I am SO excited about my trip in 11 days!! Woo hoo!!! And as someone said in this thread (I paraphrase) "you get what you believe". So CHOOSE to believe in the magic and it will show itself to you, over and over again, and in surprising ways! pixiedust:
 
And honestly, expressions like "The Pixie Dust is Gone!" really need to stop. People would take posts talking about their trip problems alot more seriously if people weren't so dramatic and disparaging to Disney World on the whole.

YES!! I totally agree (as I do with many of your posts that I don't get around to commenting on or quoting - thanks for trying to answer these people, although as you probably know - they aren't really listening... :))
 
Anyway, no amount of "believing" is going to undo endless tech support issues or the fact that I can't get a FP+ at 30 days out for the only ride my youngest child can ride in DHS. Am I supposed to just "believe" that my baby will be OK with a 100 minute wait and he'll be fine? Okey doke.

Hmmm... actually - and try this out for yourself - if you DO "just believe", then you won't come up against those tech support issues, or the 100 minutes waits. I know, it's a hard concept to swallow, but if you just TRY... you'll see that your attitude comes FIRST and your yucky experiences come up to meet it... (maybe you are not ready to hear this right now.. that's okay... but hand over heart - I've tried this for myself and it DOES work. Positive attitude and expectation and beliefs DO attract positive outcomes and they do seem to lead you away from the tech problems and 100 minute wait type of experience... Your victim attitude is just getting you more things to feel victimized about! Hey, isn't it worth a TRY to just start out "just believing"??? :confused3
 

jodyb said:
Hmmm... actually - and try this out for yourself - if you DO "just believe", then you won't come up against those tech support issues, or the 100 minutes waits. I know, it's a hard concept to swallow, but if you just TRY... you'll see that your attitude comes FIRST and your yucky experiences come up to meet it... (maybe you are not ready to hear this right now.. that's okay... but hand over heart - I've tried this for myself and it DOES work. Positive attitude and expectation and beliefs DO attract positive outcomes and they do seem to lead you away from the tech problems and 100 minute wait type of experience... Your victim attitude is just getting you more things to feel victimized about! Hey, isn't it worth a TRY to just start out "just believing"??? :confused3

Hogwash.
 

I am SO sorry you feel this way - really. I would not tell you that it was my experience if it wasn't true... and as I said before.. isn't it worth a TRY???? I guess I'll never understand why people CHOOSE to remain victims and to defend their victim identity rather than to allow a glimmer of a possibility that they create their own experience by choosing to believe it's going to be good!
 
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I am SO sorry you feel this way - really. I would not tell you that it was my experience if it wasn't true... and as I said before.. isn't it worth a TRY???? I guess I'll never understand why people CHOOSE to remain victims and to defend their victim identity rather than to allow a glimmer of a possibility that they create their own experience by choosing to believe it's going to be good!

So if I only "believe" hard enough, all the crappy Disney IT will work like it is supposed to and the 100 minute stand by line will magically disappear?
 
I am SO sorry you feel this way - really. I would not tell you that it was my experience if it wasn't true... and as I said before.. isn't it worth a TRY???? I guess I'll never understand why people CHOOSE to remain victims and to defend their victim identity rather than to allow a glimmer of a possibility that they create their own experience by choosing to believe it's going to be good!

It's unfair and presumptuous to assume this about the OP unless you've seen a consistent pattern from them (at the least).

But more importantly, I think this is really not holding Disney to much of a standard. I'm sure you could have a great vacation in the Korean DMZ if you're good enough at keeping your chin up (and your head down at the same time!) but that doesn't mean they made it a great vacation destination.
 
It's unfair and presumptuous to assume this about the OP unless you've seen a consistent pattern from them (at the least).

But more importantly, I think this is really not holding Disney to much of a standard. I'm sure you could have a great vacation in the Korean DMZ if you're good enough at keeping your chin up (and your head down at the same time!) but that doesn't mean they made it a great vacation destination.

thanks so much for the laughs!!:rotfl:
 
Uh-oh, careful there. I've been told characterizing someone's comments as hogwash is insulting both to the op and the post itself. Who knew you could insult a post.;)
Cakebaker, you called my post about disney making money on paid for unoccuppied rooms "hogwash;" The reason I called you out for it is in previous posts you have constantly claimed that people were "insulting and sarcastic" when they didn't agree with you.
All I was saying is that it's all right for you to dismiss a post that you disagree with as "hogwash" but you can't take it when someone does it to you. Also, instead of responding directly to my post , you chose a more passive-aggressive approach. Interesting.
 
I have never understood why people felt the need to make negative one word responses to posts. (Such as "hogwash") I don't feel insulted by it, it's fine for that poster to express his/her opinion. It's just that I don't understand the one word thing. If you have something substantive to add to the discussion (whether or not you agree with me :)) then go ahead. But simply to characterize my expression as "hogwash".. I don't get it. It's all good though. I do love that for the most part the DIS has always been a "safe" place to express opinions. :lovestruc
 
Cakebaker, you called my post about disney making money on paid for unoccuppied rooms "hogwash;" The reason I called you out for it is in previous posts you have constantly claimed that people were "insulting and sarcastic" when they didn't agree with you.
All I was saying is that it's all right for you to dismiss a post that you disagree with as "hogwash" but you can't take it when someone does it to you. Also, instead of responding directly to my post , you chose a more passive-aggressive approach. Interesting.

No, I haven't gotten to it yet. Sorry I'm not following your timeline.

I complain when someone calls a poster a name- apologist, whiner etc. But I don't complain when someone disagrees with me. You can call anything I post hogwash and that's perfectly fine with me. Just don't call me a hog. I'm not even insulted that you called my posting style passive-aggresive. Although that has to be the single most over used phrase on the dis. Maybe I'll make a poll on that. I also complain about this habit of predicting what the opposition will say and predicting it such a way that it attempts to make the opposition look like idiots. Talk about passive aggressive...there ya go.

If you'd like, I can copy and paste this to your comments you made directly to me, but that seems kind of silly.
 
That's my point. Many people do think of pixie dust as being showered with free stuff. Others think different. Some think every trip should have mountains of magical moments. Others are happy with a small encounter, once during their trip. Again, it's all relative.

I agree with this. We went on our first trip in over 20+ years last month, and it was our sons first time. We thought it was amazing and there was pixie dust all over the place for me!

But I didn't go there expecting any special upgrades or freebies, so I was not setting myself up to be disappointed. I felt like the CM's were fantastic. Not all, sure, but 99% of them were.

I think it's all relative as this pp said. We didn't have the experience that others had, so we didn't have much to compare it to. So for us - it was magical and amazing. We had a fantastic time. Was it perfect? No of course not. My four year old threw a couple of fits, it rained a LOT, and our fast passes got erased for 2 of my party when we upgraded to annual passes. But I expected a melt down or two, I knew going in we couldn't control the weather and we were prepared for it, and instead of getting angry with a CM (especially since it wasn't their fault), we were polite and they were amazing. They replaced everything and we had some hard to get FP in there. They also gave us some extra fp on their bands.

I feel bad for those people who don't feel the magic anymore. Maybe they have over the top expectations, maybe it's just a change in their children's age and attitude toward Disney, maybe they just had a really bad trip, OR maybe it's just time to try another vacation and see if they enjoy that more.

As for the future of Disney - I obviously have no crystal ball, but I imagine they will be ok. There will (likely) always be "new" families out there ready to experience the magic.

I think a person has the ability to make/break their own vacation with their attitude and expectations.
 
Hmmm... actually - and try this out for yourself - if you DO "just believe", then you won't come up against those tech support issues, or the 100 minutes waits. I know, it's a hard concept to swallow, but if you just TRY... you'll see that your attitude comes FIRST and your yucky experiences come up to meet it... (maybe you are not ready to hear this right now.. that's okay... but hand over heart - I've tried this for myself and it DOES work. Positive attitude and expectation and beliefs DO attract positive outcomes and they do seem to lead you away from the tech problems and 100 minute wait type of experience... Your victim attitude is just getting you more things to feel victimized about! Hey, isn't it worth a TRY to just start out "just believing"??? :confused3

You know, when I started my epic battle to do something simple -- BUY TICKETS from a company that sells tickets and make FP+ reservations, I didn't know it was going to become an epic battle. I truly believed that it was going to be easy. I was expecting to have no tech issues and for it to take a short amount of time. I was also expecting that if I called Disney, i stood a decent chance of getting polite and helpful CMs who could sell me tickets and help me make my FP+ reservations. That was my expectation. I did not know it was going to take 4 days and over 8 hours of work and dealing with multiple CMs with attitude problems of their own. So, sorry Charlie, but my attitude going in was just fine, but 8 hours and 4 days later? Not so fine and that's due to the terrible tech problems I encountered. And the lousy attitude I got back from all but one CM when I called multiple times asking for help.

The truth is that if I weren't organizing this trip for foreign friends coming to WDW for their first and no doubt only time, if it had just been our family, I would have cancelled the trip to WDW entirely. The frustration over the course of days, the dismissive and derogatory attitude of the CMs, and the declining value of the tickets has soured me on the trip. I will put on my happy hat and make the best of it for our friends, but I'm not looking forward to it the way I was just a week ago.

For us, I will give WDW one more try after this trip, but if I encounter these problems again (in addition to the fact that I don't like having to pick my FP so far in advance or that the # of FP I can now get is way less than before FP+ which means I go on fewer attractions, which lessens the value of these expensive tickets), that will be our last trip to the world until this foolishness ends. After all, the world is full of vacation options. And truthfully, I spent way less time booking a trip to Europe last year, including train travel between countries! There is something seriously wrong when it takes less time to book foreign travel than to buy tickets and make FP+ reservations in Florida. There is also something seriously wrong when it becomes a BATTLE to buy tickets!
 
I have never understood why people felt the need to make negative one word responses to posts. (Such as "hogwash") I don't feel insulted by it, it's fine for that poster to express his/her opinion. It's just that I don't understand the one word thing. If you have something substantive to add to the discussion (whether or not you agree with me :)) then go ahead. But simply to characterize my expression as "hogwash".. I don't get it. It's all good though. I do love that for the most part the DIS has always been a "safe" place to express opinions. :lovestruc


Just for the record, the one time I used hogwash, it wasn't just a single word response.
 
jodyb said:
I have never understood why people felt the need to make negative one word responses to posts. (Such as "hogwash") I don't feel insulted by it, it's fine for that poster to express his/her opinion. It's just that I don't understand the one word thing. If you have something substantive to add to the discussion (whether or not you agree with me :)) then go ahead. But simply to characterize my expression as "hogwash".. I don't get it. It's all good though. I do love that for the most part the DIS has always been a "safe" place to express opinions. :lovestruc

Using my phone is hard to make long winded posts. And sometimes, one word sums up my feelings.

You may notice that way upthread I also commented that the pixie dust is most definitely not gone.
 
cakebaker said:
Uh-oh, careful there. I've been told characterizing someone's comments as hogwash is insulting both to the op and the post itself. Who knew you could insult a post.;)

Posts have feelings too.
 

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