- Jul 30, 2011
Well adding onto that I am not a DIS employee. Being a mod is a voluntary position.I think it's less about what you do for a living but more your connection/involvement with the site. You are not the typical user. You obviously get the various connections between the sites. I'm guessing that was his point.
My point is that I'm a sales and marketing professional that deals with messaging and branding for a living (do you?).What does it matter what I do?
Also Dreams is a top 3 Disney travel agency.
The Dis is one of the earliest and largest Disney fan sites/communities on the internet. Yes there certainly is room for growth but it’s not like they are doing something wrong or hurting for business.
I think the integration of wdwinfo and disboards is fine as it is. They are integrated but not the same thing. The boards will be getting more updates soon enough.
You do bring up some valid points but I also think there have been changes already made and continuing to be made for the better.
I do get what you’re saying. I am not a branding professional.My point is that I'm a sales and marketing professional that deals with messaging and branding for a living (do you?).
While your opinions are obviously valid, and as someone who also uses this site almost every day and consumes everything we are not the target audience for any of the changes I've mentioned. Those changes are about brand consolidation so you can grow your audience even more, for the people who rarely or have never come to any of the sites. I can go further indepth about site design, bounce rates, brand consolidation, message execution, training viewers/consumers of content to naturally consume more content but that's a long more boring conversation.
Short point: the way it is now, is good enough to maintain what they have (obviously) but it could be so much better.
This might be off topic, butThe ads on this site are driving me crazy, they are embedding inside of a user’s posts rather then just in BETWEEN posts. I think people might not continue reading below the ad so I may try to thoughtfully share an idea but without seeing the rest of it, the idea might seem abrupt, confusing or unfinished. Some ads are partially text and so it does make it look like fellow users are actually authoring the ads at first glance. This is particularly disturbing to me with political ads that do not reflect my opinions since I assume ads vary by user and IP. I have become a worrywart about how the ads in my posts are reflecting on me. I wish they would get ads out of user’s posts so there is not that confusion.
Yes, I agree and they are continuing to be so intrusive it's almost not worth the effort to fight through them to find the real DIS. Not sure where the problem starts, or rather who's responsible for them being there (and making money off them I'm sure) but wish/hope it's something that can be changed very soon. Doubt this site was originally intended to be mostly a big changing billboard with some Dis stuff underneath.This might be off topic, but
Yeah, the ads are almost looking like signatures to me at times. There is also sometimes an ad that blocks the top (where I can click "new posts" etc.). I can't make the ad close or minimize and I can't navigate the site.
I was on the fence about being a Patreon supporter of the show, but no more. You've sold me. Thanks for all the hard work. I thought it was expensive, but I had no idea that the costs involved were on that level.First, I want to thank everyone for the candid opinions, and I've read through them all.
Someone asked about our 'motivations', so let me be very clear. This is a business. The servers that are serving up the post you're reading right now cost $13k a month and while I wish that was my biggest expense, it's far from it. But, Patreon is not about supporting the boards, or the DIS. To produce the content we produce on YouTube/iTunes, I pay three full-time salaries with full benefits. That includes the vast majority of health insurance costs (employees contribute less than $100 a month towards a health insurance plan that we pay more than $1000 a month for per employee), not to mention all the other associated expenses that come with having employees. People seem to love our reviews, and they seem to love our willingness to be honest. I've stated frequently that we will not review anything that we're not paying a publicly available rate for. Every dining review has to be paid for. Every hotel review has to be paid for. Then there is the equipment - they need computers, cameras and other equipment to do the job. I do my best to put a premium on quality to the best capacity that I can and that costs money. In short, the podcast/video production is a cost center and its a cost center that has grown exponentially over the last 6 years - and well beyond what I projected when we moved into that realm.
I won't even go into the salaries and expenses that are part of running the rest of the site/Dreams Unlimited. Your heads would explode. I'm just talking about the shows and the video content here.
I hear comparisons being made to other podcasts and what they do on Patreon. I don't know what their business reality is, I don't know what their costs are, but I do know what mine are. For years, I turned away advertising in all forms (save for Dreams) on any of the shows. In looking at the costs to produce the shows last year, a decision was made that we needed to be more aggressive in generating revenue. Even in doing so, I try to curate the sponsors to make sure they offer something I think will be of real value to the audience. I can tell you honestly, I routinely turn away lucrative offers either because I don't feel passionate about the product, or I feel it's not a good fit for my audience.
Patreon was set up as a way to help offset the increasing costs of running the show. Last year, the show and video content we created cost more than $150k to produce. Patreon doesn't cover that, and while I don't need the entire amount covered, I do have to offset those costs because this is a business. In all sincerity, I don't begrudge anyone at all who feels that $10 a month is too much, and I'm as grateful for those people (who watch the show, enjoy our content) as I am to those who are willing to pay for Patreon. I will continue to do my best to produce informative, honest, entertaining content that has always been, and will always be - free to watch for anyone willing to give us their time.
If you are making the comparison. Then $10 is not enough. I watch more of The Dis then Netflix, HBO (I don't have Hulu). I have cable with a sports package for DH.$10 is too much. PBS Passport, for comparison is $5. It has tons more content. Is TheDis a business or a non-profit? If a business, it's not unfair to compare against Netflix, HBO, etc. They are in the $10-15/month range.