Percentage of people who buy LLMP vs standby?

[Nicnicnic.nic]

Just curious if anyone knows on average what percentage of people buy LLMP vs just do standby in the parks?

And by park... guessing MK is the highest percentage

 

[Dave006]

Just curious if anyone knows on average what percentage of people buy LLMP vs just do standby in the parks?

That would be Disney confidential data and not shared with any of us.

Dave

 

[Tom_E_D]

Just curious if anyone knows on average what percentage of people buy LLMP vs just do standby in the parks?

And by park... guessing MK is the highest percentage

Back in 2022, Disney reported Genie+ usage was about 50% during an earnings call. I don't believe they have provided any updates since. I don't believe they gave a park-by-park breakdown even back then.

 

[Dave006]

Back in 2022, Disney reported Genie+ usage was about 50% during an earnings call. I don't believe they have provided any updates since. I don't believe they gave a park-by-park breakdown even back then.

Yes that was based on the earning value and they will never provide a breakdown like @Nicnicnic.nic inquired about.

Dave

 

[kathy884]

This is a little off topic. I think the percentage is large though. I have one day at the MK in February and I will buy two individual LLs and the multi LL if I can to be able to do more in our one and only one Disney day planned for the year. And we'll be online three days in advance at 6 a.m. EST to try to buy these (staying offsite).

My last MK park day was in March 2022 and when we tried individual LLs were sold out (offsite checking at earliest available time for us). The multi park ones were of some help at the MK though, especially since as an offsite visitor, we no longer had rope drop, and we were able to get those. We are talking a busy spring break time though.

Interestingly in Europe (Disneyland Paris) I heard on these boards that these are rarely purchased. We were in a Disney hotel with an hour of early entry and going to the parks for 3 1/2 days, but lol did buy an LL for Peter Pan and two individual LLs for DS when two coaster type rides had lines close to an hour (one we didn't rope drop and one DS wanted to do a second time). There you didn't need to buy in advance and could buy on the spot if there was a long line and you didn't want to stand in it.

It's interesting how in the US so many buy and Europeans just say no (good for them). The same is true for things like Taylor Swift concert tickets -- sold out instantly in the US and high scalper prices. And some from the US flew to Europe instead of paying scalper prices for the concert and came out even or ahead in dollar outlay.

I fall into the trap and get the LLs that I'm sure is great for Disney's profitability to maximize the experience which certainly ups the price of a Disney park day.

 

[xipotec]

I like guessing games , but my guess is lower than most people think , I would say 50% is about right.

 

[Dave006]

And we'll be online three days in advance at 6 a.m. EST to try to buy these (staying offsite).

Just a reminder that LLMP and/or LLSP purchases start at 7 AM ET.

Dave

 

[kylenne]

The same is true for things like Taylor Swift concert tickets -- sold out instantly in the US and high scalper prices

Concert tickets are an apples to oranges comparison with line skipping services at theme parks, actual humans are not buying all those tickets lol. Those are reseller bots used by ticket brokers snapping them up to then resell at multiple times the price on their own platforms. Nobody is doing that for LLSPs, SPs sell out for the same reason FP+ booked up for the most popular rides 60 days out back in the day. Limited capacity and high demand. WDW also has very different guest demographics than DLP, it has very little to do with Americans supposedly spending more than Europeans, I see plenty of the latter spending way more unnecessary money on dumb tourist trap things here in NYC.

 

[scrappinginontario]

I have one day at the MK in February and I will buy two individual LLs and the multi LL if I can

Just to clarify, if you purchase LLMP it can be used for park hopping (if your ticket allows PH). You will pay the cost for the park you plan to use it in first but the moment you tap into the first attraction, this opens up the ability to book a future LL in any park.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

You also probably need to factor in the Premium Pass folks who share the same LL entry as LLMP. Overall, I can't imagine it's more than 50%, or even as high as 50% - but I don't know anymore than the rest of your non-Disney insiders! Maybe LLMP and PP together get us to 50%?

 

[xipotec]

I'd peg the Premium way way lower than LLMP.

Its a terrible value and only really affordable to those with money to burn.

I'd say it is only going to be used in the club level , suite guests.

I'd guess out of the 50% over all maybe only 3-4% are premium.

My guess are 100% BS and have zero scientific value

 

[foodiddiedoo]

Just to clarify, if you purchase LLMP it can be used for park hopping (if your ticket allows PH). You will pay the cost for the park you plan to use it in first but the moment you tap into the first attraction, this opens up the ability to book a future LL in any park.

Dumb question, but if I buy LLMP for Animal Kingdom, finish up for the day and want to do MK for the evening, would I have to pay the price difference?

 

[CAPSLOCK]

I'd peg the Premium way way lower than LLMP.

Its a terrible value and only really affordable to those with money to burn.

I'd say it is only going to be used in the club level , suite guests.

I'd guess out of the 50% over all maybe only 3-4% are premium.

My guess are 100% BS and have zero scientific value

Agreed except that I do think there are plenty of people who would get it but aren't staying club / suite level. Lots of singles or couples might do it. It'd be a better "value" for 1-2 people than for a whole family. Also people who have a short trip or aren't spending much time in the room. Or maybe folks who book a nice offsite villa and a campsite just to let them get the LLPP...

 

[Dave006]

Dumb question, but if I buy LLMP for Animal Kingdom, finish up for the day and want to do MK for the evening, would I have to pay the price difference?

Nope. You only pay once per day. If you have a park Hopper option you can visit any park and make additional LLMP selections. You can hold a rolling 3 attraction list. Your selection at MK may be limited.

Note you can start to replace your LLMP selections in AK as soon are you tap in to your first LLMP attraction.

Dave

 

[CAPSLOCK]

Dumb question, but if I buy LLMP for Animal Kingdom, finish up for the day and want to do MK for the evening, would I have to pay the price difference?

Nope - you pay based on the first park you use LLMP in, then you can continue to book in any park after that, no upcharge.