People of the Park

[wishspirit]

to what?

The correct way in the UK is 'a person with a learning disability' or 'special needs' if you are being very broad. Usually you will go by their condition/diagnosis so 'a person with Down's Syndrome' for example.

You should always say 'a person with' so you appreciate they are a person first, and with a disability second.

I work with children with special needs, so this is very important in my life. In fact I am working tomorrow and am very excited because we are making trifle!!

 

[dalt01]

The correct way in the UK is 'a person with a learning disability' or 'special needs' if you are being very broad. Usually you will go by their condition/diagnosis so 'a person with Down's Syndrome' for example.

You should always say 'a person with' so you appreciate they are a person first, and with a disability second.

I work with children with special needs, so this is very important in my life. In fact I am working tomorrow and am very excited because we are making trifle!!

thanks

 

[SoScary'09]

Don't most web hosts have TOS about hate speak (for lack of a better term)?

Like this:
activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties;
activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way;

Actually they do, and one must go through all the agreements and TOS before even publishing a site on most servers. Unfortunately I'm not web savy enough to figure out who might be hosting them...Maybe their host will eventually check up on them and send a notice or something.

You know, I got to thinking. If Disney ever caught wind of something like this, they could well lean towards legal action if they wanted to. I mean, it is all happening on their property after all....*shrug*


I don't necessarily think that anyone here was trying pass on the word 'challenged' with any sort of negative inclinations, wish. Some people just have different ways of saying things, and if it's a challenge for a person in a wheelchair to get up a flight up stairs, then....aren't they challenged? Given I don't use the term, but still. I seriously doubt the word was meant to or intended to belittle anyone.

I do understand what you're saying though, and everyone should be given due respect reguardless of their situation.

 

[DisneyKevin]

The correct way in the UK is 'a person with a learning disability' or 'special needs' if you are being very broad. Usually you will go by their condition/diagnosis so 'a person with Down's Syndrome' for example.

You should always say 'a person with' so you appreciate they are a person first, and with a disability second.

I work with children with special needs, so this is very important in my life. In fact I am working tomorrow and am very excited because we are making trifle!!

As I'm not equipped to diagnose anyone, especially from a set of photographs, I'd be hard pressed to label someone.

We've moved forward in or "PC speak", but who knows when that will change yet again.

I'll re-phrase what I've said....but let's not lose sight of the much larger picture.

People who take pictures of people with special needs in order to post them on a website so as to ridicule them are scum.

 

[wishspirit]

As I'm not equipped to diagnose anyone, especially from a set of photographs, I'd be hard pressed to label someone.

We've moved forward in or "PC speak", but who knows when that will change yet again.

I'll re-phrase what I've said....but let's not lose sight of the much larger picture.

People who take pictures of people with special needs in order to post them on a website so as to ridicule them are scum.

I was not trying to be rude, it's a cultural difference, I understand that. Doesn't stop me from cringing though, just because it's something we don't (or shouldn't, not everyone is PC) do here. I guess there are plenty of things that Brits say or do that would seem culturally odd to Americans. Then again a lot of Brits don't know what to say ether, but since it is a subject so close to my heart, I find I am more likely to find fault with what's being said.

I was in no way trying to imply you should also try and play amateur diagnosis ether, we just use the term 'learning disability' and at the moment that seems to work of us. PC speak does evolve, and I try my best to keep up with it as it doesn't hurt me at all to try and be polite, but it hurts others if I do not at least try. Anyway, that is away from the real subject at hand.

I still agree with you that they are scum of the highest order!

 

[UrsulasShadow]

Hey, I think I'll go over to the site, and say, " This one is my father...take it down. This one is my sister...take it down. This one is of me...take it down" until every single picture is removed.

Yeah, yeah, I know...there is a bottomless pit of classless people willing to fill up the void with more pictures...but it might discourage the witless wonders who maintain the site from continuing with their idiocy.

 

[FireDancer]

I apologize...I know this is OT, but this got my attention because I have stopped listening to someone's music because of their off stage actions. I won't get into that whole thing, but I'm curious Frank if you are always able to seperate "off stage" actions? I'm not critizing, but alot of people stopped listening to Chris Brown after he beat up Rhianna, would you feel the same if John Mayer had beat Jennifer Aniston? This is not at all intended as snarky, I am honestly curious. I have stopped listening to a couple artists because I completely stopped having any respect for them and it made it much less enjoyable to listen to their music. That is just me though, I don't expect anyone else to follow suit.

I'd never say never but yes, with very few exceptions I am able to completely separate the private and professional life of anyone whom I don't actually know. It doesn't mean I will respect them as a person but I would not deprive myself of music I like or anything like that because it is performed by someone I do not.

If a friend in my personal life does something like beat their wife I would stop being friends with them but I don't attach myself to celebrities. They are just strangers who do something I enjoy watching or listening to, nothing more. Perhaps that makes it easier for me to compartmentalize. Even if I feel a personal connection to their work I don't have to feel it with them.

The only power a celebrity has over me is that which I give them. Since I am in full control of the amount of respect or trust I give a person I am also in full control of how I feel if that trust is broken.

If they break the law, like beating their wife, they should be punished. I am not an apologist for them either.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled topic.

 

[WaltD4Me]

I'd never say never but yes, with very few exceptions I am able to completely separate the private and professional life of anyone whom I don't actually know. It doesn't mean I will respect them as a person but I would not deprive myself of music I like or anything like that because it is performed by someone I do not.

If a friend in my personal life does something like beat their wife I would stop being friends with them but I don't attach myself to celebrities. They are just strangers who do something I enjoy watching or listening to, nothing more. Perhaps that makes it easier for me to compartmentalize. Even if I feel a personal connection to their work I don't have to feel it with them.

The only power a celebrity has over me is that which I give them. Since I am in full control of the amount of respect or trust I give a person I am also in full control of how I feel if that trust is broken.

If they break the law, like beating their wife, they should be punished. I am not an apologist for them either.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled topic.

Intresting. Thank you for responding.

 

[dalt01]

I was not trying to be rude

i dont think anyone thought you were..........by the way..........whats a trifle?????????

 

[FireDancer]

Intresting. Thank you for responding.

No problemo.

 

[mainegal]

The correct way in the UK is 'a person with a learning disability' or 'special needs' if you are being very broad. Usually you will go by their condition/diagnosis so 'a person with Down's Syndrome' for example.

You should always say 'a person with' so you appreciate they are a person first, and with a disability second.

Kate, thanks for the reminder.
Just this week at work, I couldn't come up with the right word and what stumbled out of my mouth was "when I was a kid we called them retarded". I was so miserable that I didn't have the right term to use right then. I know better! Really I do!!! A person has a disease or a disabilty. They are not their disabilty.

 

[mainegal]

This thread has been very interesting to read and makes me proud to be a DISer.

 

[farmergirl]

I haven't read this whole thread but when I went to look at the website I could not believe how rude it was. Jeepers who just post pictures to make fun of people. We are all different and that's what makes us all unique. It would be a pretty boring world if we were all the same. The first thing that came to my mind is that it was such rude childish behavior. Like a bully on the playground if you will. The few photos I seen was enough for me I didn't look any further. The whole intent was to make fun of people. I could never emagine going to the parks and taking photos of someone just to make fun of them. The things people will do. That's all I wanted to say ...just had to post my 2 cents.

 

[wishspirit]

i dont think anyone thought you were..........by the way..........whats a trifle?????????

A very yummy desert!!

Wiki says: A trifle is a dessert dish made from thick (or often solidified) custard, fruit, sponge cake, fruit juice or, more recently, gelatin, and whipped cream. These ingredients are usually arranged in layers with fruit and sponge on the bottom, and custard and cream on top.

We are using jelly (jell-o to you guys! ), fruit, jam and vanilla sponge cake, custard and squirty cream from a can to make a layered delicious desert!

I am not too worried about it... except the whipped cream from a can! I can sense a lot of cleaning in my future! As long as the kids have fun I don't mind!

 

[DaParkers]

at some point in their lives all of these "celebrities" made a "conscious" choice to be available to scrutiny. it is, nor ever has been, a secret what happens to people whom other people either rever or revile. if they dont want their feet held to that fire they could most certainly have taken the low road. sorry but i do not think your theory holds water.........

So, would you say that the people on that website made a "conscious" choice to be ridiculed because they are in public? No. People who ridicule others, (celebrity or not) usually have something missing in their lives. How does ridiculing someone else enhance your life? It doesn't.

 

[Mickey Fliers]

I actually think the picture of the guy with his baby in the baby bjorn is totally cute!

And if I saw someone in the bathroom with a tray of food on the floor...I would absolutely take that picture. Just not something you see everyday.

 

[dalt01]

So, would you say that the people on that website made a "conscious" choice to be ridiculed because they are in public? No. People who ridicule others, (celebrity or not) usually have something missing in their lives. How does ridiculing someone else enhance your life? It doesn't.

you totally misunderstand, i was answering someone about the lives of the tiger woods of the world, nothing to do with the dumb website you are talking about.

 

[wdwislife]

wow! these are funny! but yes, many of them are a little too harsh...