People disciplining your pets...WWYD?

Jennasis

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I think we've discussed before how everyone feels about having their children disciplined by someone other than Mom or Dad, but I would like to know what you think of it when it comes to pets. Here's what happened...and please tell me if I'm bent out of shape for nothing.

We have two dogs. One is a greyhound (and the greatest thing on 4 legs!) and the other is our lab cross (adorable and sweet. a 100lb goof!). These dogs love people, particularly my MIL. When she comes over they go gaga for her. When they see her car pulling in the driveway they start whining and jumping up on our fence and calling to her and will carry on like this until she comes over and pets them. Then they follow her around doing the happy dance around her until she sits down and pets them.

MIL came by the other day with a friend to pick up some stuff she has been keeping in our basement. Of course when they show up, our lab (Milhouse) does his usual "Oh-thank-GOD-your-here!!" dance. MIL pets him and all is well. He "escorts" them to the outside entrance to our basement and watches them go down and bring up boxes (he remains outside watching them). After they were done getting the stuff they needed, I invited MIL and friend into the house for a few minutes to which they happily accepted. As soon as I say Would you guys like to come INSIDE? " the dogs come bounding up to the back porch expecting to be let in ("Inside" is our command word to call the dogs in). Now Milhouse is dancing around the 3 of us on our cement back porch so I order him to sit and wait to be let in. I always make our dogs sit and wait for the humans to go inside first, and Milhouse always politely obliges.

The first time I issue the command "sit", Milhouse stops dancing and looks at me with his head cocked to the side. He is a super dog but not super swift! He is standing in between MIL and her friend and looking at me in front of him. So again I repeat "Milhouse...Sit." Again the blank stare...not unusual for him. I often have to repeat commands to him but he always does it. The big lug looks at me and then to MIL and then me. Third times a charm, I figure...then it happened....

MIL's friend reaches down and grabs Milhouse by his choke chain and YANKS it straight up, lifting him off of his front feet and snaps "SIT!" at him.... Milhouse...all 100lb's of him is now dangling in midair, choking and gasping and now completely confused. The only reason he even wears a choke chain is because he has managed to chew off all the cute bandanas and collars we've tried over the years. We have never EVER EVER used the choke as a means of training/punishment.

I was stunned...luckily MIL reacted faster than I could and pulled the dog out of her friends hand and said "we don't DO that with him. He knows what sit means." Poor Milhouse looked so confused. So I pulled him over to me side and said "sit" and he sat.

In the grand scheme of things I know it's a blip. BUt she was not afraid of the dogs. To the contrary her mannerisms suggested that she had at some point taken a training class where this method was used, as she was decisive, aggressive and deliberate. Milhouse was not behaving erradically or dangerous (I have no problem handing out a smackdown to any animal who is threatening me).

So was she out of line?
 
Oh, wow...I would have CHOKED HER!!!!!! She had NO right to do that to your dog and could have been putting HERSELF in danger. She doesn't know your dog well obviously and "attacking" him like that could have caused some dogs to snap. I know I would have snapped at that witch!!!! Did YOU say anything to her?
 
She was very out of line and I would have not so politely told her so. Kudo's for MIL for saying it so you didn't have to. My dogs ARE my children. And there is no excuse for choking a dog like that. Now I'm peeved.
 
Uh...yeah. He wasn't behaving aggressively just waiting for clarification. I'm glad your MIL stepped in.
 

WonderfulDreamer2 said:
She was very out of line and I would have not so politely told her so. Kudo's for MIL for saying it so you didn't have to. My dogs ARE my children. And there is no excuse for choking a dog like that. Now I'm peeved.

Me too! So angry at this woman and I wasn't even there.
 
luvwinnie said:
She had NO right to do that to your dog and could have been putting HERSELF in danger. She doesn't know your dog well obviously and "attacking" him like that could have caused some dogs to snap.

I would have a fit! Sounds like your MIL handled it well--I bet you were speechless with horror, I know I would have been!

MIL's friend was way, way out of line.
 
Yeah, she was out of line in this instance. I think there may be situations where it is appropriate to discipline someone else's pet, but this clearly was not one.

Denae
 
Yes, she was out of line! And she was stupid! She doesn't know your dogs or how Milhouse might have reacted to her actions. Furthermore, anyone who has and understand dogs would have known that that was inappropriate!

I would request that your MIL never bring her back to your home.
 
In the past I have completely lost my cool on people who had been mistreating my horses. I simply do not tolerate anyone messing with my pets. I was so stunned by this woman since the entire visit up to that moment had been her petting him and talking sweet to him and such. Thank God MIL stepped in cause it would have gotten mighty ugly if I had to open my mouth. When that woman grabbed his collar and yanked, I literally saw a flash of red across my eyes and my fists clenched!
 
good for your MIL. she didn't miss a beat. the "friend" was a jerk.
 
I probably would have wrapped that choke collar around her neck and pulled--HARD. :furious:

She was totally wrong. Rotten witch. Hope your pup is OK. And I know what you mean about labs sometimes needing a little extra time to let commands process. :rolleyes1

Anne
 
Speaking of kids and dogs, at a party the other night I HAD to discipline an unsupervised 4 yr old for INTENTIONALLY STEPPING on the host's dog's tail.
 
Yep, way way out of line. It would have been perfectly fine if she simply ordered him to "SIT!" and then perhaps lightly pushed his rear down, but to have grabbed the choke chain and yanked it like that is a whole other situation. Had that been me, I'd likely have yelled "What the (blank) do you think you're doing?!!!" Kudos to you for keeping your cool.
 
I think the woman was wrong in the same whay she'd be wrong to start taking things off your shelf, wiping your counters, etc. Just out of line - it's not her house. But as much as we love our dogs, they are not people. They don't get scarred for life over something like that either.
 
Yes, she was out of line for doing that to your dog.

You are out of line for having a choke collar on your dog, full time. A choke collar should only be used during training. Your dog stands a good chance of getting that collar hung up on something, which can lead to it getting choked to death. A dog's collar should be on loose enough so it can come off over its head, if it ever gets hung up.

How does he chew off his own collar anyway? Must be quite the double jointed pup. :confused3 I'm guessing the other dog is doing the chewing.

Please re-think the choke collar as a permanent collar. I had the same problem (our other dog kept chewing off her "sister's" collar) and just kept buying thicker, tougher collars until the chewing stopped. Unless, of course, she did it in front of me... :sad2:

BTW, I think your MIL's friend is lucky you didn't knock her down and put that collar on her... :mad:
 
Galahad said:
I think the woman was wrong in the same whay she'd be wrong to start taking things off your shelf, wiping your counters, etc. Just out of line - it's not her house. But as much as we love our dogs, they are not people. They don't get scarred for life over something like that either.
:faint:
 
Oh I don't think he's scarred for life. But I SURE as heck won't be letting that nutbag near my dogs again.
 
OMG! That was horrible!! Luckily your MIL said something. Hopefully the friend got the message.
 
She should not have done that. You were giving him an order and he was not bothering her.
 
I would have embarrassed everyone, dog included, when I got through with that *person*! :bitelip:
 


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