Pennsylvania governor orders flags to be flown at half staff - agree or disagree

Should flags be flown at half staff for Joe Paterno?

  • Yes, Joe Paterno deserves the honor

  • No, Joe Paterno should not be honored

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/us/penn-state-paterno/?hpt=hp_c1&hpt=hp_c2

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State College, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Gov. Tom Corbett ordered state flags to fly at half staff beginning Monday in honor of former Penn State University football coach Joe Paterno, who died Sunday.
The flags will remain there through sunset on the day of Paterno's funeral, according to Gary Miller of the governor's staff.
Arrangements for Paterno's funeral were pending Monday, a day after the death of the legendary Nittany Lions coach, whose stellar image was tarnished at the end by criticisms that he did not respond forcefully enough to allegations that a former assistant had molested a child in a shower at the university football complex.
Sunday night, students and Paterno fans braved freezing temperatures to attend a vigil on the lawn of the Old Main building on Penn State's campus. They held candles, locked arms and sang the school's alma mater to say goodbye.
"He's more than a coach; his family's more than a family," said Bethanna Edmiston, a local resident and alumna who met her husband at Penn State.
"It's extremely difficult for the whole Nittany nation," she said. "Unless you're part of Penn State, you just don't understand what it means."
Fans have also gathered at a makeshift memorial to Paterno at a statue outside Beaver Stadium depicting him, his index outstretched in a "No. 1 gesture."
Signs, flowers and candles surrounded the statue, along with photographs of Paterno. "You're our hero," one said.
Paterno's son, Jay Paterno, posted a message to Twitter on Saturday night saying that he had driven by the statue, and that the love and support inspired his father in his final hours.
The support has not been universal.
A group for survivors of sexual abuse by Catholic priests released a statement questioning the praise for Paterno, who critics say should have done more in 2002 when an assistant reported seeing former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky engaged in a sexual act with a young boy.
Paterno passed the report along to university executives, who are facing criminal charges, accused of misleading investigators and failing to properly report the alleged abuse. Paterno was not charged.
Sandusky faces more than 50 counts involving sexual acts with 10 boys dating back to 1994. He has pleaded not guilty.
The survivors' group, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said Monday that ignoring what it called Paterno's "egregious wrongdoing" was insensitive to victims of molestation.
"And publicly honoring Paterno sends precisely the wrong message to others who have or may hide child sex crimes -- if you achieve enough professionally, we'll overlook your role in enabling, ignoring or concealing heinous crimes against kids."
In his final interview, Paterno told the Washngton Post that he felt inadequate to deal with the issue.
"I didn't know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was," Paterno told the Post. "So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn't work out that way."
Paterno had coached at Penn State for 61 years, 15 of them as an assistant. He died less than three months after he coached his last game, an October 29 victory over Illinois that gave him 409 wins -- more than any other major college coach.
Under Paterno's 46-season tenure as head coach, the Nittany Lions won two national championships, went undefeated five times and finished in the top 25 national rankings 35 times, according to his official Penn State biography.
 
I think its a disgrace to true heroes and great men/women that lost their lives.
 
Disagree. But I would be afraid to say that out loud around most people I know, including my own husband's family!
 

I live here in PA (I'm a transplant - grew up in Cleveland). I have no problem with it. JoePa was a hero to a LOT of people, and not just in PA. He and his wife did do much for Penn State and the students and players. This Buckeye fan is mourning his loss with the Nittany Nation. The tragic events that ended his career do not, in my mind, define Joe Paterno the man. Unfortunately, they do define him to a lot of others.

Rest in Peace, Joe. And to the Penn State fans, know that Joe is no longer in any physical or mental or emotional anguish.
 
I agree. If he is beloved by much of the state then so be it. I mean Richard Nixon got a funeral with tons of pomp and circumstance and he was an impeached president who was found to have participated in criminal activities. But many people still honored him for what they thought was good about him.
 
I think its a disgrace to true heroes and great men/women that lost their lives.

:thumbsup2

I personally find it disgusting that the state is honoring this person. :sad2:
 
I am sorry the Joe Paterno was caught up in the mess created by Sandusky. I am sorry for the pain and suffering he endured with his illness, and with the disgrace. I know he is well loved by many for what he did prior to the case being exposed and that it is an enduring love.

I hope he rests in peace. Sad, sad situation.
 
I agree with it...he did what he thought he was supposed to do. As a former Bronco (Shannon Sharpe) who I follow on Twitter said yesterday, "History may mark yesterday as his death date, but he died the day he was fired. His reason to live was taken away from him."
Besides, if Ted Kennedy got the funeral he got after what he did to Mary Jo Kopechne, Paterno definitely deserves some respect.
 
I think its a disgrace to true heroes and great men/women that lost their lives.
:thumbsup2
pretty much sums up my feelings, so put me in the strongly disagree category.

I find it repulsive that a governor would order flags flown at half mast for a man that condoned child rape.

Wonder if I can change my birth certificate to have Harrisburg removed from it as place of birth?
 
I strongly disagree.

I would disagree with it if this scandal never happened. He was a football coach for crying out loud! He's not that special.

Do they fly the flag at half staff for truly great teachers or people who donate just as much or more money than Paterno did?


What kind of world do we live in when a college football coach is so revered like this?
 
I think it's inappropriate.

FWIW, I'm on the fence about this whole Paterno thing. He was a wonderful man who made a horrible mistake.

He should have done more. If it was HIS son being raped by Sandusky, I doubt he would have made the same choices.
 
Strongly is not a strong enough word for how strongly I disagree!
I think its a disgrace to true heroes and great men/women that lost their lives.
:thumbsup2
Scandal aside- he was a football coach. It is completely inappropriate.
Did he order the flags to fly at half staff for the hundreds of Pennsylvanians who will not come home from Iraq and Afghanistan? Or firefighters and police officers who are killed in the line of duty? Nope, just for the football coaches. It is disgraceful.
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http://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/halfstaff.pdf
In the early days of our country, no regulations existed for flying the flag at half-staff
and, as a result, there were many conflicting policies. But on March 1, 1954, President
Dwight Eisenhower issued a proclamation on the proper times.

The flag should fly at half-staff for 30 days at all federal buildings, grounds, and naval
vessels throughout the United States and its territories and possessions after the death
of the president or a former president.

It is to fly 10 days at half-staff after the death of
the vice president, the chief justice or a retired chief justice of the United States
Supreme Court, or the speaker of the House of Representatives.

For an associate
justice of the Supreme Court, a member of the Cabinet, a former vice president, the
president pro tempore of the Senate, the majority leader of the Senate, the minority
leader of the Senate, the majority leader of the House of Representatives, or the minority leader of the House of Representatives the flag is to be displayed at half-staff
from the day of death until interment.

The flag is to be flown at half-staff at all federal buildings, grounds and naval vessels in
the Washington, D.C., area on the day and day after the death of a United States
senator, representative, territorial delegate, or the resident commissioner from the
Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. It should also be flown at half-staff on all federal
facilities in the state, congressional district, territory, or commonwealth of these officials.

Upon the death of the governor of a state, territory or possession, the flag should be
flown at half-staff on all federal facilities in that governor’s state, territory or possession
from the day of death until interment.

The president may order the flag to be flown at half-staff to mark the death of other
officials, former officials, or foreign dignitaries.
In addition to these occasions, the
president may order half-staff display of the flag after other tragic events.
The flag should be briskly run up to the top of the staff before being lowered slowly to
the half-staff position
 
Disagree... He's a freaking football coach! Sorry, but no, that doesn't make him special enough to have the flag at half because he died.
 
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