sam_gordon said:Agreed.
But even in this extremely rare situation, on a ship stranded in the middle of the Caribbean, passports STILL were not a necessity.
I have agreed multiple times in this thread that a passport is a good thing to have. What is "upsetting to me" is that people are so judgemental about those who don't have a passport.
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Is that because Carnival knew so many people didn't have passports and chose an outcome (sailing to Mobile instead of Mexico), that made passports not necessary?
Judgment comes when people make decisions in a way that could bring difficulties to others all because they put their needs first.
Two scenarios:
A family chooses not to get passports and has a medical emergency in which they need to be evacuated to dropped off at nearest port, then they will deal with that consequence in a personal manner.
Hundreds of passengers don't buy passports and a shipwide emergency happens in which their lack of passports now cause thousands of others to be inconvenienced because of that, we now have problems. See the difference?
sam_gordon said:I love this argument. Can we say to people going to Disney "If you can afford to undertake such travel, you can afford to stay on property?"![]()
Not the same thing at all . You staying at the Marriott outside of the main gates will not affect anyone else but yourself. There are no widespread safety issues that will affect other WDW guests, like what happened on the Triumph.
This is not the same argument whatsoever.
This whole discussion boils down to altruism and foresight. What is the effect of me not having a passport on others? If it just harms me or my family, that is my choice to take those consequences. Could it affect and hamper the safety of others in a largescale problem? Then my decision now becomes for the good of others, and we would all hope passports are purchased.
As we saw, that was not the case. If it is proven that lack of passports factored into Carnival's safety plan in going to Mobile instead of Mexico, that would be very interesting to see what happens...
Will safety rules change? Will passport rules change?
Tiger