passport for resident noncitizen

Diz Kid

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How do I go about getting a passport for my wife who is a German citizen and has her Green (permenate) Card? Does she need a US passport or a German one?

She has been living in the States since she was a baby, so has never had a need for one before.

How long a wait should we expect to get one?

TKS
 
A U.S. Passport is proof of United States citizenship, so she would not be able to obtain one. I recommend contacting the German Consulate for more details on her particular situation. Good luck. :)
 
THIS is a subject I know about... My husband WAS a mexican citizen on our last cruise. But he was also a legal US resident. He had to go to the Mexican consulate for a Mexican passport. So yes, your wife has to for SURE get a German passport. My hubby is NOW an American citizen!!! He had his ceremony on May 25th... So now he can get his U.S. passport... BUT just so you know, your wife doesn't NEED a passport. Her green card is all she needs along with her drivers license. My hubby went through alot of trouble getting his passport, but we were told when we got to Disney cruise Line terminal, all he needed was his resident card. That will be plenty proof for them she is legally entitled to come back to the USA..If you question this, call DCL and ask them.
 
Originally posted by Wonderwoman1982
Her green card is all she needs along with her drivers license. My hubby went through alot of trouble getting his passport, but we were told when we got to Disney cruise Line terminal, all he needed was his resident card. That will be plenty proof for them she is legally entitled to come back to the USA..If you question this, call DCL and ask them.

Are you sure, because when I use to have a green card, years ago, coming back from Canada, many times, I was always asked for a valid passport. The green card is only valid with a current passport. I would be extra sure and call DCL to confirm, unless cruise lines work different than airlines or driving across the border.
 

The original poster should also be aware that it will really depend on the countries being visited. Remember that passports are required to enter other countries as well, not just to return to the US. Rules may be different for US citizens and EU citizens as well as citizens from other parts of the world.

If St Maarten (Dutch) or Mexico require passports of EU citizens to be available upon demand, I would think it would be wise to be able to produce it.

Julie
 
first of all your wife is a 'resident alien'.....not resident non-citizen...
that's the formal term..
second of all, how is it that she's lived in the US all her life and is married to an american and has never been naturalized???
as far as i know, it takes only 5 years living in the US with a green card to qualify as a naturalized citizen....
and a child living in the US doesn't need a green card to become naturalized together with his parents....

if she's concerned about dual citizenship, the US doesn't care...they just ignore the second citizenship and think of her as american only.....regardless of whether she's still a citizen somewhere else....(this is not true of canada, who are far stickier about dual citizenship).....

if it were me, i'd apply for naturalization....in this day and age it seems to me the safest citizenship to hold is american (no offense to germany and all the rest but i really do believe this to be the case)....
 
My daughter has dual citizenship - US and Canada. I'm not sure what you meant about Canada being a stickler about dual citizenship - we've never run across that.
When we cruise, we show her US papers. My DS's friend is travelling with us this Oct. - he is a British citizen living in Canada his parent are getting his green card before we travel and that along with his passport (and of course letter giving us permission to take him) are all DCL told we needed. Is that true, wouldn't want to be surprised at the terminal.
 
We just sailed the Wonder on May 12th and my husband is not a US Citizens yet but "does" have a valid greencard. He did not require a US passort to enter Bahamas, he used his greencard. At the terminal they will take your greencard and issue you a receipt and on the last day you have to go to customs at 6:00 am and they give you back your greencard.

But to be safe as I did I would call DCL a few times and ask the same question and just make sure every time you call ask the question that they give you the same answer.

Dina
 
Thanks to all for the info.

Just because one has lived here all their life, you do not "automatically" become a citizen after 5 years. And the only way, that I know of, that a child becomes a citizen automacatically is IF the parent(s) become citizens before the child turns 18. Further, marraige to a citizen will not give them citizenship either.

thanks to all again for the info. We're going in March of 2003, so we have a little time yet.
 
Ok, YES I'm sure all you need is a green card and a drivers license. I'm SURE> That is all my hubby needed and DISNEY is who told him so. It was our first cruise, so we wanted to be extra safe and get the passport, but we did NOT need it afterall... As for all this talk of citizenshop, I DO know about this, after all my husband just became naturalized like 2 weeks ago. It took him ( luckily) only about 9 months or so, from the time he applied for citizenship until he actually became one. NOT BAD, ehe? It COULD have taken up to 2 years we were told. As for children becoming citizens based on their parents, the original poster wasn't asking about that, BUT I do know about it since I was just at the swearing in ceremony and this topic was thoroughly explained by people who work at INS. Kids born to US citizens, whether in the US at the time of birth or not, are automatically US citizens, and can have dual citizenship if born in another country.. Kids born to NON U.S. citizens HERE are US citizens. If you have a kid who is NOT a citizen, and the PARENT applies to become a citizen, when the parent is sworn in,the child AUTOMATICALLY becomes a citizen, too... and as for "HOW can someone live here that long and not be naturalized..." That is easy to answer. My husband was born in Mexico, moved here when he was 10 years old, and it was 20 years before he became a citizen. He had no need to become a citizen, and he never thought about it- not until his parents both became citizens.. Then we started hearing how the laws are changing to make it more difficult, so we talked about it and decided to better get the ball rolling before it's too late to never do it. People who work here and live here that are non citizens have the same jobs, same pay and same social security we all do... It's only more convienient to be a citizen when traveling outside the U.S. AND, I can tell you we have lots of friends who are mexican citizens who are proud of where they are from, and don't want to renounce where they came from. And when you swear in, you DO have to renounce your country of origin. They travel freely between here and Mexico, and have good lives and work hard. They have no need to pay the U.S. government LOTS of money JUST to be able to vote basically. They get all the other same benefits as we all do, except they can't vote.. Anyways, I've rambled long enough. Just wanted to explain a few things for people who may not understand. Oh, and you have to wait 3-5 years AFTER you become a legal resident to apply for citizenship. Depending on whether you're married to a citizen or not.
 
yes....you need to be in the US for 5 years with a green card in order to apply....
my whole family is naturalized, except me....the lucky one who was born in the US of A.....
i still remember my sister practicing her signature when she was a little girl in order to sign her papers....

still it's very weird to me that someone has lived in the US all her life and never applied to be naturalized...

which reminds me....there used to be a special card naturalized citizens could carry to simplify crossing the canadian border....i wonder if that still exists and whether it can be used on the cruise...
 
I don't think they do that anymore, at least on the mexico side.. My MIL and FIL both got a drivers license type card, showing they were naturalized, and my hubby did NOT get one, and they told us all we'd get was his big certificate, and they recommended getting passports as proof. Thet's all we were told he'd get if he wanted one...And that is even MORE money...We expected that same type of card, but found he didn't get one. I guess it's a thing of the past ?
 
could be....my mom still uses hers to cross into canada....
they applied for them many years after they already had passports, but they go to canada almost daily so it's much more convenient to carry that card than a huge passport...
 
DizKid-

I use to work for INS years ago. Your wife should apply for a re-entry permit. People sometimes refer to this as a "white passort". This is a travel document for lawful permanent residents (LPR)s. This document in conjunction with her resident alien card (green card) will enable her to travel without needing her German passport. As for citizenship, it is her right to choose to become a citizen or remain an LPR. There is nothing requiring LPRs to become citizens!

A warning though, it is a time consuming process ( a long wait) to get a reentry permit. Allow plenty of time....
 
agent mommy...
who said anything about HAVING to become a citizen...
i just can't fathom anyone NOT wanting to become a citizen of the greatest country in the world if one has the chance...
ok...so call me a nationalist....there are worse things in the world..
but given the billions of teeming masses who would quite literally give their lives for that opportunity....
anyway, my family was so overjoyed the day they were sworn in...
i was very very very young then but i remember it to this day...
i thought everyone would be as excited as my parents and sister were...
and currently finding myself living overseas further intensifies all those feelings....

i think i'll go sing a few rounds of god bless america...
 

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