Parking Lot Trams - Was there a cause that lead to the modifications?

[aleksandr]

The problem is rude, inconsiderate people who feel that rules don't apply to them. When the operators call for no further boarding and then people insist on hopping on, they have to start all of the procedures over again. The lack of sufficient CMs at the tram boarding locations doesn't help either. And as others have pointed out, it's not always a language barrier issue. Some people just don't care--same issue where people pulling out selfie-sticks on rides caused the entire ride to get shut down.

 

[Klayfish]

Rude/ignorant/dumb/self-centered/lack-of-personal-responsibility people + a state crawling with unsavory plaintiff lawyers + very favorable legal environment = very slow trams. Disney isn't responsible for your falling asleep on a tram, or ignoring a safety message, or doing something else that is out of their control. However, there are plaintiff lawyers swimming around like sharks and tons of people who will run to them. I can't even imagine how much Disney has to pay in settlements and/or legal fees because of people who can't take responsibility for themselves. Florida is a disastrous dump of a place when it comes to legal liability and plaintiff lawyers, so that just compounds the problem.

 

[hakepb]

I loved the days back when the team was a ride! Whipping around the corners at the tram station was the best!

 

[MariMama]

Anyone could fall asleep. If you're small enough (and my MIL certainly would be) and you fall asleep for a moment and the tram goes through a turn, it could happen.

I don't equate falling asleep after a long day at the parks to be not paying attention.

Doors are good. I'm not a Jeep type person, which is good, because the Jeeps with no doors look like the definition of insanity to me. (let's not even talk about motorcycles LOL) Doors are a nice little safety mechanism. I don't mind doors at all. Disney and tired people were LUCKY nothing big-enough happened until then.

The doors are nothing but a PIA.

 

[Klayfish]

The doors on the trams can still easily open if a person were to lean on them, so I don't see them being a huge protection upgrade.

Doors on a Jeep Wrangler? I've owned a ridiculous number of cars (I'm a car guy by hobby and for a living), but the Jeep remains on my bucket list. One of these days... The doors themselves, like on most cars, don't actually offer much structural crash protection. Yes, you can get hit by flying debris in an accident, but same is true in a convertible. Jeeps actually do quite well in wrecks...I've seen hundreds of them.

 

[Quellman]

There was a series of people that just didn't listen but I don't think the tram was part of that.. safety got a good once over after the monorail accident and I think that's about when this all happened...

Personally, I think it's to make you want to spend another $15 to park closer and walk.

I'll walk from any parking lot except from the far reaches of Animal Kingdom. That lot is not pedestrian friendly. Hollywood Studios is my favorite to walk from.

When they announced the modification of adding doors, I thought they'd do something like the DHS back lot tour tram, with the panels that drop down.
No further boarding possible once those doors have closed.

The maintenance on that would be crazy with the hydrolic arms and people being caught in the doors. Each would have to be closed individually.





It would be nice if they added LED lights on the doors. Red means, don't open them, Green means, safe to get on. might help people visually understand they can board or not.

 

[disnut8]

We don't normally ride the trams because we normally do the buses but we had to stay offsite this last trip and when we got to Epcot, we had to park ALL the way at the end of a row so when we finally made it up to where we could walk to the front and see our row number, a tram had just pulled up so we decided to board it and save the feet for later. And we sat and we sat and we sat and we sat and we sat and we sat. There were no people trying to get into the tram but because there wasn't another tram on the way to where we were, our tram couldn't move. I'd take people trying to get into the tram after a safety announcement over the tram engineer telling stupid jokes and begging people to board the tram.

But, in the end, all was well.

 

[GillianP1301]

I would love it if the spiel ended with " I've now told you 10 times to stay behind the line and no more boarding. You pull a dumb *** move, you're on your own".

Of course that will never happen. Heaven forbid they force people to be responsible for their own actions.

 

[zaccaglin]

"I know you're in a hurry hurry hurry, but for your safety safety safety..."

 

[disnut8]

I would love it if the spiel ended with " I've now told you 10 times to stay behind the line and no more boarding. You pull a dumb *** move, you're on your own".

Of course that will never happen. Heaven forbid they force people to be responsible for their own actions.

Disney doesn't tell people to not do something. They ask them to refrain from doing it. next time you go to Disney World, see how many times you see or hear the word "no". It's not very often.

 

[GillianP1301]

Disney doesn't tell people to not do something. They ask them to refrain from doing it. next time you go to Disney World, see how many times you see or hear the word "no". It's not very often.

In a time when the majority of society has common sense, that works well. These days, unless you beat someone over the head with the obvious or have instructions/signs/disclaimers a mile long, not so much.


It's basically the equivalent of a parent trying to be their child's friend instead of actually telling them no and sticking to it, when it's warranted.

 

[bumbershoot]

I would love it if the spiel ended with " I've now told you 10 times to stay behind the line and no more boarding. You pull a dumb *** move, you're on your own".

Of course that will never happen. Heaven forbid they force people to be responsible for their own actions.

I was on a safari ride and some passengers kept standing up. Over and over. The driver was so irritated. We were somewhere and she and said she was going to stop for a good amount of time so we could get pix because it was a cool moment, and they stood up again. She said to sit down repeatedly. She finally said "if you don't sit I have to go" several times, narrated that she was about to leave, and said "you're ruining it for everyone else, ok we're going." They were still standing, and she didn't accelerate all that nicely. It was the entire safari like that. Close as I've come to seeing a righteous cm tantrum.

 

[SgtTibbs]

Colorado has laws that say in essence, if you do something stupid/careless on a ski slope it's your own darn fault and you have to deal with the consequences. I think there is a lesson in that.

 

[wilkeliza]

Disney doesn't tell people to not do something. They ask them to refrain from doing it. next time you go to Disney World, see how many times you see or hear the word "no". It's not very often.

I have heard no on the trams every ride. It is always NO FURTHER BOARDING. clearing and when people cross the yellow line they will say again NO FURTHER BOARDING and people still don't listen. I even have one tram driver get off the tram and put her hands up as to say stop and people still continued to try and walk past her. It isn't the language it is people's attitudes.

I was on a safari ride and some passengers kept standing up. Over and over. The driver was so irritated. We were somewhere and she and said she was going to stop for a good amount of time so we could get pix because it was a cool moment, and they stood up again. She said to sit down repeatedly. She finally said "if you don't sit I have to go" several times, narrated that she was about to leave, and said "you're ruining it for everyone else, ok we're going." They were still standing, and she didn't accelerate all that nicely. It was the entire safari like that. Close as I've come to seeing a righteous cm tantrum.

Wow that CM probably got a stern talking to. At Safari driving while someone is standing is a safety no no and if caught (not sure if there are cameras on the trucks or not) the CM can get a safety reprimand.