Parking at resort then leaving car?

[beattyfamily]

No, I'm very sorry, but it does not work like that. My rights end where yours begin.

Shoplifting impinges on the right of the store to do business.

Bullying impinges on the right of the child to be happy.

Ok then I'm telling you that by your parking at CR all day when you aren't suppose to, I'm not able to find a parking space when I stay there so you are now infridging on my rights. But obviously you do not care, as long as you get what you want, to hell with everyone else.

 

[beattyfamily]

Did you even read any of that, beattyfamily? Or did you just click quote so you could laugh at me?

I'm fine with you laughing at me, but at least read it.

Oh I read it alright, thus the

Your trying to justify this is hilarious, and sad at the same time.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Countdown to closure...10, 9, 8...

 

[Disneyrsh]

Ok then I'm telling you that by your parking at CR all day when you aren't suppose to, I'm not able to find a parking space when I stay there so you are now infridging on my rights. But obviously you do not care, as long as you get what you want, to hell with everyone else.

Nobody has yet posted that they can't find a spot to park at CR.

When we've parked there, there have been literally dozens of free parking spots both coming and leaving.

Ah, I see, I impinged on your rights because you wanted THAT spot, not THAT OTHER spot.

From what I've heard and read, when the CR lot reaches anything close to full, then changes are made.

And if you had bothered to read any of my posts, you would have read that I agreed with the poster about not parking at the CR all day for the MK.

Let me add, I'm fine with other people if they want to do it, it's just not what we've done. So far.

 

[beattyfamily]

Nobody has yet posted that they can't find a spot to park at CR.

When we've parked there, there have been literally dozens of free parking spots both coming and leaving.

Ah, I see, I impinged on your rights because you wanted THAT spot, not THAT OTHER spot.

From what I've heard and read, when the CR lot reaches anything close to full, then changes are made.

And if you had bothered to read any of my posts, you would have read that I agreed with the poster about not parking at the CR all day for the MK.

I guess you are not reading my posts then because I DID post that a few times we could not find parking and either had to give up and do valet which isn't fair or we had to wait for a very long time for someone to leave. What part of that do you not get?

I read all your posts trust me and it's obvious how you feel.

 

[Disneyrsh]

I guess you are not reading my posts then because I DID post that a few times we could not find parking and either had to give up and do valet which isn't fair or we had to wait for a very long time for someone to leave. What part of that do you not get?

I read all your posts trust me and it's obvious how you feel.

Ok, I went back and saw it, you couldn't find a place to park.

Looks like Disney either needs to enforce their rules better, or make a parking lot for ADR/non guest customers.

The fact that is is so *ludicrously* easy to enforce the ADR time and DIsney doesn't says clearer than any sign "yeah, you have an ADR, we just don't care."

Y'all are just shooting the messenger...

 

[BostonRob]

The funniest thing is that you guys have no problem at all with me paying for valet, and it's really all semantics.

Whether I drop 50 bucks on a silly dress for my daughters at the CR, or pay the valet to park my car, I'm still giving my money to disney, and my car is STILL in the CR parking lot.

But somehow it's the most awful thing in the world for me to be my own valet and spend money at the CR in your NON SANCTIONED manner, but y'all are perfectly fine with me dropping it off at the valet!

It cracks me up to no end!

People who follow the rules just for the sake of them being rules, well, you can if you want, but sheep who never question authority are often the first to be led to slaughter.

Disneyrsh, I just read this whole thread and I was pretty much with you until I read this post. Stick with the argument that you will continue to violate an unenforced rule simply because it is unenforced. That is your choice and your right - you seem perfectly willing to accept the consequences if the rules ARE enforced, so thats fine - you're doing the crime because you're willing to do the time.

Just don't try to justify your actions with the money you're spending. It is inconsequential if you bought a $50 dress, a $80 boat ride, or a $200 meal - none of that money has anything to do with parking at the CR.

Though I disagree with your argument, I'm not sure how I feel about your actions, since I don't follow every rule every day either. But I will agree that it is crazy for people to get all upset about where YOU chose to park. Ultimately this, and all those other 'hot-button' issues, like pool-hopping and the whole mug thing, are for Disney to decide, and it doesn't do anybody any good to get all upset and start lecturing.

If people who violate unenforced rules are ruining your vacation, you need to insulate yorself from them. If this means staying at a resort where people don't violate the parking rules (or don't pool hop), so be it.

 

[Lisa_Belle]

No, I'm very sorry, but it does not work like that. My rights end where yours begin.

Shoplifting impinges on the right of the store to do business.

Bullying impinges on the right of the child to be happy.

The third one, being a southerner, I'm not even going to discuss with you because it's so loathsome.

The purpose of a civilized society is NOT to "keep me from maximizing my benefits".

Do you realize how communist, er, socialist you sound?

Disney has a rule they do not enforce. An unenforced rule is basically useless, in the opinion of most educated people. None of the examples you posed above are unenforced. They may not be *perfectly* enforced, but the attempt is made. Posting a sign that says "don't park here for MK" is not an enforcement, it's a passive deterrent. And there isn't even a sign that says "Parking for ADR's Limited To 3 Hours, All Others Will Be Towed." Now THAT's enforcement!

I was just providing some "what if" scenarios that prove that just because a rule isn't enforced doesn't make it OK to break that rule. And your right to park at the Contemporary just ended so that resort guests have the right to use the spaces to park THEIR cars. So you just admitted you have no right to park there. You have just admitted fault and we can now move on to happier places.

 

[Disneyrsh]

Disneyrsh, I just read this whole thread and I was pretty much with you until I read this post. Stick with the argument that you will continue to violate an unenforced rule simply because it is unenforced. That is your choice and your right - you seem perfectly willing to accept the consequences if the rules ARE enforced, so thats fine - you're doing the crime because you're willing to do the time.

Just don't try to justify your actions with the money you're spending. It is inconsequential if you bought a $50 dress, a $80 boat ride, or a $200 meal - none of that money has anything to do with parking at the CR.

Though I disagree with your argument, I'm not sure how I feel about your actions, since I don't follow every rule every day either. But I will agree that it is crazy for people to get all upset about where YOU chose to park. Ultimately this, and all those other 'hot-button' issues, like pool-hopping and the whole mug thing, are for Disney to decide, and it doesn't do anybody any good to get all upset and start lecturing.

If people who violate unenforced rules are ruining your vacation, you need to insulate yorself from them. If this means staying at a resort where people don't violate the parking rules (or don't pool hop), so be it.

Good point. Never justify.

I've heard that Disney's breaking ground on a new resort to keep all us scofflaws out. It's called "La La Land." It's right next to Tomorrowland.

I'm so glad you married Ambuh, you guys make a great couple!

 

[Disneyrsh]

I was just providing some "what if" scenarios that prove that just because a rule isn't enforced doesn't make it OK to break that rule. And your right to park at the Contemporary just ended so that resort guests have the right to use the spaces to park THEIR cars. So you just admitted you have no right to park there. You have just admitted fault and we can now move on to happier places.

Those what if scenarios are not applicable to this conversation or disney.

Those situations all are examples of when enforcement fails, not when it is unenforced.

And they just don't carry the same desperate gravity as pool hopping, mug abuse, and parking scofflaws.

 

[cjsmith]

To the other posters on this thread, it's not worth your time typing any longer to justify your feeling, opinions, or thoughts in regard to parking at the CR resort or any resort that's close to a park because no matter what is typed, Disneyrsh is going to basically do whatever the heck she pleases so matter how self-serving it comes off to others in society whether on the disboards or anywhere else. She is of the belief that unless rules are enforced that they are basically useless. What a break-down in society we would have in all walks of life if everyone truly believed this. (I realize that your parking and doing as you please doesn't cause a break-down in society so don't even go there please!) If on a daily basis we all chose to get away with what we could since it wasn't being enforced, then this world would indeed be a sad place to be. Things like manners and respect are not something that is enforced yet I hope you practice these on a daily basis.

The purpose of a civilized society is to be civil to one another, respectful of everyone and respectful of our laws, rules, and everything else along those lines.

There are rules and then there are unwritten rules. Let's see if I were to use your train of thought then it's okay for me to stand right in front of you and your children to watch the parade even though you've been there a while staking out your maximum viewing potential because it's not a rule that enforced by Disney. Furthermore, I'm free to cut you in line because it's not a rule written anywhere by Disney and not a rule enforced. I may be able to do these things but I won't when I'm there this weekend. I won't because I do live in a civilized society and do try my best to adhere to the rules, written or unwritten on a daily basis and hope that those around me do the same.

I'm sure this thread is about to be closed as it's way off target from what the OP wanted. I hope the OP isn't turned off and knows that we all realize she wasn't trying to start anything or get away with anything, she was simply asking a simple question and somewhere along the way it turned into this. Hopefully her vacation will turn out as she hopes.

 

[Disneyrsh]

Disneyrsh, I realize that your parking and doing as you please doesn't cause a break-down in society.

Great! I'm glad we're all on the same page here.

I agree, there are better things to talk about, like crockpot scofflaws.

 

[cjsmith]

Great! I'm glad we're all on the same page here.

I agree, there are better things to talk about, like crockpot scofflaws.

Now since you're the one who made a big deal about people quoting you properly, please do the same for us! You may have quoted me, however you took it out of context and didn't use the whole line.

 

[Disneyrsh]

Now since you're the one who made a big deal about people quoting you properly, please do the same for us! You may have quoted me, however you took it out of context and didn't use the whole line.

My argument wasn't that I wanted to be quoted properly, it was that I wasn't being quoted at all and a pp was making up quotes out of whole cloth. I'm all for out of context quotes. The minute you truncate them, they automatically become out of context.

It's the favorite refuge of crooked politicians: "I was quoted out of context!!!!"

Now, if I had strung together that quote out of completely unrelated parts of a sentence, maybe. But as is, naw.

You said it, I agreed with it, and I also agreed with moving on

 

[BostonRob]

To the other posters on this thread, it's not worth your time typing any longer

Whoa. Was that followed by about 500 typed words?

Just to make a semi-productive contribution to this thread, I'd like to observe that it is interesting that Disney DOESN'T sell all-day parking passes at CR or any of the other conveniently located resorts. I'd pay a lot for one, cause I can't stand all that ttc/busses/trams/boats business. I'll pay for the convenience! But Disney doeasn't want that. Because, despite what some people think, Disney seems to actively avoid any sort of 'caste' system. They DO try to treat all their guests equally, and as such, there is no VIP parking, and no "front of the line" tickets, like you see at some other theme parks. At least not yet.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Whoa. Was that followed by about 500 typed words?

Just to make a semi-productive contribution to this thread, I'd like to observe that it is interesting that Disney DOESN'T sell all-day parking passes at CR or any of the other conveniently located resorts. I'd pay a lot for one, cause I can't stand all that ttc/busses/trams/boats business. I'll pay for the convenience! But Disney doeasn't want that. Because, despite what some people think, Disney seems to actively avoid any sort of 'caste' system. They DO try to treat all their guests equally, and as such, there is no VIP parking, and no "front of the line" tickets, like you see at some other theme parks. At least not yet.

Actually they do sell all-day passes at CR for about $300 a day and up. And they throw in a free room as a bonus. As I look at things, that's really what you're paying for at a monorail resort. Convenience.

 

[cjsmith]

Whoa. Was that followed by about 500 typed words?

Just to make a semi-productive contribution to this thread, I'd like to observe that it is interesting that Disney DOESN'T sell all-day parking passes at CR or any of the other conveniently located resorts. I'd pay a lot for one, cause I can't stand all that ttc/busses/trams/boats business. I'll pay for the convenience! But Disney doeasn't want that. Because, despite what some people think, Disney seems to actively avoid any sort of 'caste' system. They DO try to treat all their guests equally, and as such, there is no VIP parking, and no "front of the line" tickets, like you see at some other theme parks. At least not yet.

LOL, you know what, you're absolutely right!!! What can I tell you, I talk too much!

Actually Disney does have a "front of the line" system down pat for VIP guests. We stayed at the Yacht Club with a celebrity in the room next to us and spent time talking with her on most days. Her and her family were met on most days by a personal tour guide who brought them to the parks and walked them past the lines. Another celebrity that I've known since she was little had VIP service when she went through the parks after doing the Christmas parade one year at Disney. Must be an amazing way to see the parks! Guess I'm not lucky enough to be part of this "caste" system so I have to wait on line like everyone else.

 

[BostonRob]

LOL, you know what, you're absolutely right!!! What can I tell you, I talk too much!

Actually Disney does have a "front of the line" system down pat for VIP guests. We stayed at the Yacht Club with a celebrity in the room next to us and spent time talking with her on most days. Her and her family were met on most days by a personal tour guide who brought them to the parks and walked them past the lines. Another celebrity that I've known since she was little had VIP service when she went through the parks after doing the Christmas parade one year at Disney. Must be an amazing way to see the parks! Guess I'm not lucky enough to be part of this "caste" system so I have to wait on line like everyone else.

True, I was aware that they do have real VIP service for "real" VIP's. But I'm talking about just the average person being able to pay more for better service. I know universal and other parks have line bypassing features you can pay extra for and I've been to many parks where they let you pay more for better parking - that sort of thing. Obviously WDW lets you pay more to get more at their hotels, but as far as theme park access, we're all pretty much in the same boat.

 

[cjsmith]

Good point. Never justify.

I've heard that Disney's breaking ground on a new resort to keep all us scofflaws out. It's called "La La Land." It's right next to Tomorrowland.

I'm so glad you married Ambuh, you guys make a great couple!

Just so you know, BostonRob isn't the BostonRob from the reality show unless they had a 2 year old daughter that they've been hiding away!

 

[Disneyrsh]

Just so you know, BostonRob isn't the BostonRob from the reality show unless they had a 2 year old daughter that they've been hiding away!

What, are you kidding me? Thanks for the update, Captain Obvious!

The *real* BostonRob is fairly grammatically challenged, and the Dis BostonRob obviously isn't. Plus, most celebrities tend not to use their names while posting-I can see it now: AngelinaJolieLovesDisney.

Twas a joke; I love how he calls her "Ambuh". Spent years putting my r's back into my speech and now it's cool to have a South Shore accent!