Parents of teens...is vaping common in your community? (Inspired by pot thread)

[goofyernmost]

From the American Lung Association - what’s in an e cigarette?

https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/e-cigarettes-vaping/whats-in-an-e-cigarette

• Nicotine – a highly addictive substance that negatively affects adolescent brain development
• Propylene glycol – a common additive in food; also used to make things like antifreeze, paint solvent, and artificial smoke in fog machines
• Carcinogens- chemicals known to cause cancer, including acetaldehyde and formaldehyde
• Acrolein – a herbicide primarily used to kill weeds, can cause irreversible lung damage
• Diacetyl – a chemical linked to a lung disease called bronchiolitis obliterans aka "popcorn lung"
• Diethylene glycol – a toxic chemical used in antifreeze that is linked to lung disease
• Heavy metals such as nickel, tin, lead
• Cadmium – a toxic metal found in traditional cigarettes that causes breathing problems and disease
• Benzene – a volatile organic compound (VOC) found in car exhaust
• Ultrafine particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs

What parents should know
https://www.lung.org/getmedia/a6d09...c9ecf6e/e-cigarettes-parents.pdf.pdf?ext=.pdf

That first one certainly explains congress. Just about every old codger in there used to smoke back when it was a normal thing to do.

But seriously, just about everyone of those things can be found in the air we breath on a daily basis. It is very easy to create a panic about anything that one wants to and knows the best way to say it.

 

[kanerf]

I am waiting for the diagnosis of COPD in some of these vapers when they hit their 30s and 40s.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

That first one certainly explains congress. Just about every old codger in there used to smoke back when it was a normal thing to do.

But seriously, just about everyone of those things can be found in the air we breath on a daily basis. It is very easy to create a panic about anything that one wants to and knows the best way to say it.

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, this subject was part of my daughter’s graduate Capstone project. It was information essentially new to me and I was quite alarmed for young people at what I saw. Sensitive lung tissue just isn’t meant to be subjected to this, at this concentration. Unfortunately, some are going to realize it too late. I posted earlier here about a young man who required a lung transplant due to vaping. Fortunately that seems to be a rarity, but it doesn’t mean that many won’t also have some degree of lung damage, as well.

I am waiting for the diagnosis of COPD in some of these vapers when they hit their 30s and 40s.

For some it will be much sooner. This stuff is BAD.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

It's not nearly so pronounced in my neck of the woods, but if you go further into the capitol, vaping shops become VERY common. My brother vapes and I wish he didn't. It might be better than smoking (he's an ex smoker) but he INHALES whilst you should only taste the vape in your mouth. I fear for his health as you hear horror stories including cancer or Popcorn Lung. Maybe I'm paranoid? He gets up every 10 minutes just to go outside and vape. One thing is evident, these vapes almost always contain concentrated amounts of nicotine, so vaping can make you super addicted super fast - and as the majority of papers over here are teens just trying it out for the first time, we're breeding a generation of addicted vapers.

 

[holden]

I am waiting for the diagnosis of COPD in some of these vapers when they hit their 30s and 40s.

I know someone who vapes and is constantly coughing. He's in his 20s. COPD is the first thing I thought of. I'm thinking he's on his way...

 

[goofyernmost]

I know someone who vapes and is constantly coughing. He's in his 20s. COPD is the first thing I thought of. I'm thinking he's on his way...

I suspect that a lot of people cough partially because of what specific thing (flavor) they are vaping and, agreed, there is a lot more vaping in public than there once was. However, It is possible that the coughing may be coming, with a little help, from the things they are smoking in private.

There are two general types of vaping equipment. One is more of a cigarette design that simulates cigarette smoking both in looks and in vapor quantity. Then you have the "tank" vape equipment that emits massive amount of vapor and clouds when used. Sorry, I don't remember the actual names. I can remember early on following cars that let you immediately know that the driver was vaping because if the window was open, which it would have to be, all of a sudden there would be this massive white cloud coming out of the window, similar to if the interior of the car was on fire. Now those are the people, using the "tank" type, that are heading for serious, serious problems down the road.

 

[TippyThomas]

I've never wished bad things for people in order to prove my beliefs but I do wish they'd not smoke or vape for obvious reasons.

 

[kdonnel]

As a child of a smoker who was more than happy to pollute my lungs with their second hand smoke, I would not want to take away vaping as an option for those adults who wanted to switch. I never understood why my mom thought it was ok to smoke around me knowing the lifelong health effects.

I have no problem with people wanting to smoke, vape, drink, base jump, or any other risky activity.

I do have a problem with smoking around children. If there is a safer option for the third party it should remain an option.

I do think that smoking and vaping material should be reserved for those who are 18 and up. There should be harsh penalties for retailers caught selling to minors including loss of business license, gigantic mandatory monetary penalties, and prison time.

 

[bruceluigi]

As a parent of teens myself, I can tell you that vaping is pretty common in our community. It's definitely something I've had to discuss with my kids. Growing up, my dad was a heavy smoker and didn't think twice about lighting up around us. I ended up with asthma because of it, so I completely understand your concern about secondhand smoke.

When my sister wanted to quit smoking, she turned to vaping and chose fenixth8. She found their products to be a good alternative and it really helped her make the switch. I agree that vaping should be an option for adults who want to quit smoking, but it definitely needs to be kept away from kids. I’m with you on the strict penalties for those who sell to minors.

 

[Kathryn Merteuil]

I do not think either of my step-daughters vape(d). I know some of their friends do (or did at some point).

 

[bruceluigi]

I’ve noticed vaping popping up more around here too. Has anyone else noticed similar issues with vaping or found anything that helps?

 

[bruceluigi]

I suspect that a lot of people cough partially because of what specific thing (flavor) they are vaping and, agreed, there is a lot more vaping in public than there once was. However, It is possible that the coughing may be coming, with a little help, from the things they are smoking in private.

There are two general types of vaping equipment. One is more of a cigarette design that simulates cigarette smoking both in looks and in vapor quantity. Then you have the "tank" vape equipment that emits massive amount of vapor and clouds when used. Sorry, I don't remember the actual names. I can remember early on following cars that let you immediately know that the driver was vaping because if the window was open, which it would have to be, all of a sudden there would be this massive white cloud coming out of the window, similar to if the interior of the car was on fire. Now those are the people, using the "tank" type, that are heading for serious, serious problems down the road.

I’ve been noticing more teens vaping around my neighborhood too. It’s definitely become more common, and I’ve seen a mix of equipment being used. A while back, I tried a packman 2g disposable and found it to be a lot smoother and less harsh than some of the bigger tanks I’ve seen. It was a good reminder that not all vapes are created equal. The flavor was nice and it didn’t leave me coughing like some other vapes I’ve tried. It might not solve all the issues people are facing, but finding a quality, smoother vape could make a difference.

 

[robinb]

My DD24 started vaping in high school and vaped for 2 1/2 years. She quit when she was 20 just after Disney moved the smoking areas outside of the parks. Thank goodness it was before our next trip to WDW! I was not looking forward to her having to either take a break or her breaking the rules like a vast number of the other vapers.

 

[goofyernmost]

I’ve been noticing more teens vaping around my neighborhood too. It’s definitely become more common, and I’ve seen a mix of equipment being used. A while back, I tried a packman 2g disposable and found it to be a lot smoother and less harsh than some of the bigger tanks I’ve seen. It was a good reminder that not all vapes are created equal. The flavor was nice and it didn’t leave me coughing like some other vapes I’ve tried. It might not solve all the issues people are facing, but finding a quality, smoother vape could make a difference.

Well, now vaping is a thing of it's own. Back when I used it to quit smoking what I wanted was just something that imitated a cigarette both with the look and the content. Now they aren't happy unless they resemble a coal burning steam engine. Since they are inhaling I would bet that they are doing more harm to their lungs then even what cigarettes did. We won't really know for probably another 20 years just what the impact will be. I know that if you are following a car and all of a sudden a cloud of smoke looking vapers came rolling out of the window, it is obvious that they are using a tank instead of a pencil.