Parade Crashers & Line Cutters

[Loco4Disney]

Yikes! Well, all I can say is that I'm certain the person didn't sit down on purpose on top of your children. YOU made a judgemental and disparaging comment about her weight in your post. And, by the way, it is spelled butt not but...if you must use such a crass term, anyways. Your argument has made no change in my opinion of your reaction. It was hostile and you were assuming nothing but the worst intentions of the person before even giving them a chance. Now that is what is judgemental. Maybe, just maybe, you are as rude as the line cutters by jumping all over a person who innocently makes a mistake. Whether it was or wasn't in this case, isn't the point. The point is that you immediately assumed that it wasn't an innocent mistake and assumed the worst in the person BEFORE politely letting her know that she was too close. Some people walk through life as victims, protecting themselves like everyone is out to get them!!! I sure hope I never accidentally sit on your child's big toe, you sound like you are threatening to beat me up for such an offense!!

I felt the need to post on this topic, because I felt some of you posting here are hypocritcal in your complaints. The thread is regarding rude people who cut in line and encroach on your space, yet you fail to see the irony in your own over - the - top, hostile reaction to it. We get what we put out into the world. O.k., I'm done with this topic. Now, back to happy thoughts, like planning my Disney vacation for my family.

 

[Aristomommy]

Second, you guys are REALLY scaring me! I have never been to Disneyworld and you make it sound so awful!! I have been to Disneyland as a child, and as an adult with my toddlers many times and have NEVER seen or experienced the kind of behavior that you guys are describing here. That is why I love it so much. If the people at Disneyland behaved that way on that frequent of a basis, I wouldn't love it so much. So, my question is, is line cutting really that big of a problem there. Are the people who attend Disneyworld more classless than those who attend Disneyland? Or, are the crowds just that much worse that it creates more opportunities for that kind of behavior??? We are going for our first time to Disneyworld for 5 days at New Years, which I understand is one of the most crowded times of the year. I am very apprehensive!

Having been to both WDW and DL, I can say that it is worse at WDW. Part of it may be because many people go there once in their lifetime and this is their only chance to do all these things whereas I saw more locals at Disneyland and their pace was more relaxed in general. The crowds are worse and people may feel like they have to experience everything and come to a parade at the very last minute to find out that the other 15,000 people thought about lining up 30 minutes earlier. Since they have paid so much money (like others haven't ) they feel justified to get "their money's worth" at all cost. Now this is just my theory...

We have also encountered the most polite and wonderful people at WDW, but of course the negative situations are just as "memorable". If I have extra room, I will let a child sit with us. But I don't feel compelled to give up my spot and opportunity to experience a parade with my kids especially when someone expects it and is rude. I wouldn't worry about it so much, it's just nice to vent sometimes

 

[TENIA66]

Well, well, well........

I have been the victim of many a line cutter and parade smoosher at disney. on line cutters, i'm never sure if they are cutting or merely been to the bathroom and are re-joining. Smooshers drive me crazy. However, i wonder if part of it is merely getting caught up in the disney magic stuff, and oblivious to your surroundings. I do think you have to program yourself somewhat to ignore your surroundings, especially conversations, so you can take it all it. I'm the world's worst at stepping in front of someone accidently at wdw because i'm in a disney daze........if it's me who accidentially smooshes you and yours at a parade, just point it out to me, i'll move. if you think i've cut line, just ask, you might be right................

 

[all4fun]

Having been to both WDW and DL, I can say that it is worse at WDW. Part of it may be because many people go there once in their lifetime and this is their only chance to do all these things whereas I saw more locals at Disneyland and their pace was more relaxed in general. The crowds are worse and people may feel like they have to experience everything and come to a parade at the very last minute to find out that the other 15,000 people thought about lining up 30 minutes earlier. Since they have paid so much money (like others haven't ) they feel justified to get "their money's worth" at all cost. Now this is just my theory...

I agree.

Since we're venting...

One time I remember we decided at the last minute to watch Illuminations. The people in the front row waited until the show started then put their kids up on their shoulders, effectively blocking the view for everyone standing behind them (Imagine standing behind someone who is now about 8 feet tall!) It was annoying because 1) I had known they were going to do that I would have changed locations before they turned all the WS lights off, and 2) I think it's a little rude and thoughtless to know you have about 15 people standing directly behind you and block their view like that. I mean, they were standing directly next to the rail - there was nobody standing in front of them. I wouldn't have cared if they put their children on their hip, or even piggy back - but was it really necessary to put them up on their shoulders like that? When I'm at the back of the crowd, I don't expect a perfect view or anything, but this really obscured the view of the show. And before anyone criticizes me for just not getting there earlier, not everyone who wants to watch the show can have a front row spot.

OK, vent over... thanks for reading.

 

[CrzyforPiglet]

Loco - we love WDW and go just about every year sometimes twice a year but the parades are usually just about as bad as everyone is describing. In 7 years I think we've only waited for three "regular" parades and a couple during MVMCP and MNSSHP. The ones during the special events weren't as crowded but one of the ones during the regular parade was so bad we are in no hurry to do it again. For that parade we were on mainstreet (for an hour like a lot of people) and the parade was ending so there was a group of characters kinda bunched up waiting to get off the street. This woman and her young son came out of no where and she was literally using him as a battering ram to get to the street to see Tigger. What she didn't see which I knew was that there were people including kids still sitting on the curb in front of us so I told her no I wouldn't let her through and before I could explain why she got testy with me and so I had to get testy with her to tell her she was about to run over some children.

I personally don't think the OP is making any assumptions or acting out of line. When it is your children involved I too would have acted like a mother lion protecting her cubs and lashed out first and thought of being polite later. People who show up last minute for parades and do some of this stuff know exactly what they're doing but they're too obsessed with getting their piece of Disney to think about others.

 

[Loco4Disney]

Well, all I can say to that is, if Disneyworld is going to require you to be on guard to the point that we have to assume that everyone is out for themselves at the expense of every one else there, then I'll just stay away and stick with Disneyland! I DO feel that using using foul language in front of my kids, as well as her own over that situation is undisneylike and not what I would expect to hear while I'm there. I not only could have handled that situation in a more civilized way, but I'll bet your Disney Dollars that I would have gotten the result I was looking for a lot quicker than she did with her outrageous, and scary (to her own children) outburst.

Luckily, me and my family see nothing that entertaining about a parade to warrant waiting for an hour anyway, so I will never have to encounter that sort of ridiculousness. However, if I by chance step in front of someone's stroller without realizing it, or "cut in" what I think is the end of a line due to my momentary obliviousness, please excuse me politely and I will move faster than you can say Mickey. However, if you come at me like I'm Jack The Ripper trying to slight you from you disney experience and You yell at me loudly in front of a large crowd, you can bet I'll turn a deaf ear to you, too. And, that, my dear disfriends, is a lesson on how you spread the disney joy!

This was only one of many threads I see about how bad line cutting for rides is and I guess I will just have to see how bad it really is for myself. I would love to take these posters at there word, however when the complaintive poster themselves has a negative attitude, uses nasty, judgemental remarks, and foul language, I believe they are weakening their own testimony of OTHERS being rude. Maybe they should look in a mirror. I always thought Disney lovers were happy people, but after lurking on the disboards for some time, I see that is not always necessarily the case.

 

[DiamondD]

On our trip this past December I had two incidents that occurred at MK one was frustrating and the other was a nice one. On the night we went to MVMCP we went to get a spot for the parade and went to sit down when this guy comes over and yelling at us that he is saving this area for eleven other people. I turned to him and said "are they here now?" and he says no. So I tell him I guess they are out of luck and take our spot. He then gets verbally abusive with me right in front of my wife and kids. He's yelling that he'll have me removed from the park cause he "was there first" and so on. He goes as far as to grab a security officer and tells him about us and the guard looks at him and us with our three children and the security officer asked they guy where his eleven people are and he says their on the way. The officer says when they arrive they are more than welcome to watch the parade from the back. I about lost it when I saw the look on the guys face.

I would have lost it too! That is just childish of him. "I was there first" that alone just says childish! I bet the security guard just about lost it too! You can't get removed from the park for "taking someone spot when the entire party wasn't even there!" I am sorry but that is just hysetrical to me.

 

[maxiesmom]

I would love to take these posters at there word, however when the complaintive poster themselves has a negative attitude, uses nasty, judgemental remarks, and foul language, I believe they are weakening their own testimony of OTHERS being rude. Maybe they should look in a mirror. I always thought Disney lovers were happy people, but after lurking on the disboards for some time, I see that is not always necessarily the case.

So if you saw an adult sit on your 40lb child, you would take the time to have a polite chat with them? I don't think so. Sitting on someone's child is beyond rude! And anyone who would do something like that is not someone who appreciates an exchange of pleasentries.

I think you missed the point of this thread. It is a vent! About the rude things people have experienced at WDW. If it so upsetting to you, you should skip it. There are multiple threads about how great we all find Disneyworld. This is just one where we are getting rid of our pent up frustrations at the stupidity and shelfishness of some people.

 

[Loco4Disney]

Hey, if you agree with an over the top, angry tyrade with foul language around your children, then I'm more than happy to be in the minority. I think you need to reread the poster's original post. The person she insulted did NOT sit on her children. As she describes it, they were IN their strollers, so she most likely was sitting on their feet and due to her excess weight, probably couldn't even feel that she was sitting on them. It was an exagerated reaction to feeling slighted by someone after waiting for the parade and she is obviously using her children being possibly "hurt" as an excuse for HER rude behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right!! And, if you feel they do, then as I said, I'm glad to be in the minority.

Not to mention, the poster stated that she felt the woman sitting on a body part of her child was the same as if the woman intentionally struck her children. Hmm? I'm failing to see that logic. She verbally accosted the woman based on THAT logic.....that she INTENTIONALLY came to Disneyworld that day and said I'm going to crush a small child with my enormous bottom!! That's too rich!

This argument is beginning to take on a life of its own with everyone slowly chiming into defend this exagerated response. Soon, the story will not only be that the lady sat on top of her children's legs while they were in their stroller.....but that she then grew horns and tale and vowed to make their day at Disney a living nightmare!!!!!!

 

[Whosemom]

Loco, we don't make a point to see parades, and just don't run into any of this. Its the whole scarcity thing, I guess. Too many mice after the same cheese. As for the line cutting, I think you'll get that anywhere. But for me its a moments annoyance. So, come East young man, avoid parades and ENJOY!

 

[Luv Bunnies]

This isn't a Disney story, but along the same lines. Last summer, we went to a minor league baseball game where most of the seats were general admission. My 2 boys and I got there over an hour early to get good seats on the aisle along the first base line. We were saving a seat for my husband who was coming directly from work. The two rows directly in front of us were reserved with signs for some large corporate group. They were official signs posted by the ballpark, not someone's homemade signs.

About 15 minutes before the game, this really rude woman started looking for seats with about 6 other people. She was snarling at everyone and complaining about how there were no seats available. She tried to sit in one of the reserved rows but someone told her she couldn't sit there and she got all ticked off. She kept asking other people to move down and make room for them on the aisles. People said the rows were full and they didn't want to be squished up for the next 2 1/2 hours. Besides, the rows are long and the aisle seats are best because you can get in and out easier. The nerve of thinking she could get aisle seats so late! Then she passed our row and said, "I can't believe the seats are all frickin' taken by all these stupid people." I couldn't resist! I said, "The stupid people have been sitting here for an hour so they could get good seats." She just glared at me. Finally, her group left the area because no one would let them squeeze into the already crowded bleachers. A few people applauded!

Later, I went to the concession area and saw her and her group sitting at picnic tables watching the game. There are a few tables around the outfield and the view really stinks from there. I wonder if she still thought we were "stupid" people?

At WDW and Disneyland, we've given up on sitting and waiting for parade spots. We just end up totally annoyed and ticked off when people creep into our space. Our boys are older (11 & 8) and would rather go on rides during parade times. If we happen to be in the area during a parade, we stand at the back of the crowd and see whatever we can. We're also a fairly tall family and can usually find a place to see over the heads in front of us. If we can't see and the boys aren't really interested, no problem. We just head over to Space Mountain!

 

[MrsKreamer]

We were waiting for a parade once and at the last minute a family comes up right behind us and is trying to get their son in front of us. We had got there early and our son was napping in the stroller about to wake up any minute. Well the woman proceeds to instruct me that since my son was sleeping that I was to give them my spot because their son was awake! Hey if you had asked nicely then maybe, but no way now...my son did wake up for the parade and I got to listen to that woman ***** for the entire parade!

Loco-had someone sat on my kids feet I probably would have yelled more than the word *** at them. I don't care how distracted you are you look before you sit! Oh and I am a rather large woman and belive me I can feel someone's feet underneath my "butt".

 

[Loco4Disney]

Hey, as long as you are proud of swearing in front of small children, then good for you!

 

[kaysmommie]

Hey, if you agree with an over the top, angry tyrade with foul language around your children, then I'm more than happy to be in the minority. I think you need to reread the poster's original post. The person she insulted did NOT sit on her children. As she describes it, they were IN their strollers, so she most likely was sitting on their feet and due to her excess weight, probably couldn't even feel that she was sitting on them. It was an exagerated reaction to feeling slighted by someone after waiting for the parade and she is obviously using her children being possibly "hurt" as an excuse for HER rude behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right!! And, if you feel they do, then as I said, I'm glad to be in the minority.

Not to mention, the poster stated that she felt the woman sitting on a body part of her child was the same as if the woman intentionally struck her children. Hmm? I'm failing to see that logic. She verbally accosted the woman based on THAT logic.....that she INTENTIONALLY came to Disneyworld that day and said I'm going to crush a small child with my enormous bottom!! That's too rich!

This argument is beginning to take on a life of its own with everyone slowly chiming into defend this exagerated response. Soon, the story will not only be that the lady sat on top of her children's legs while they were in their stroller.....but that she then grew horns and tale and vowed to make their day at Disney a living nightmare!!!!!!

I told the lady to move her butt off my kids legs. Oh my is that foul language ? I'm sure if it were your small children it would be a whole other story. She looked right at my kids before she tried to squeeze them back by sitting on them. It was not fun for me and definately not a magical disney moment. you don't have to be so rude and condensending and pick out my type O's. You need to get a life my dear! This thread is talking about line cutters and parade crashers, not all our magical moments. trust me there are plenty of those too. I didn't say anything about the lady's weight either just that she was a larger women. Bigger and taller not fat. I was not worried about me seeing the parade but angry for that person sitting on my kids legs. It is a little hard to miss a big blue double stroller with kids in it. I got there early so my kids could see the parade not get hurt by some rude stranger. Your such a trouble maker and I have no further comments as they might be not so nice and I enjoy the Dis boards and Disney I just wanted to vent about my experience.

 

[kaysmommie]

We were waiting for a parade once and at the last minute a family comes up right behind us and is trying to get their son in front of us. We had got there early and our son was napping in the stroller about to wake up any minute. Well the woman proceeds to instruct me that since my son was sleeping that I was to give them my spot because their son was awake! Hey if you had asked nicely then maybe, but no way now...my son did wake up for the parade and I got to listen to that woman ***** for the entire parade!

Loco-had someone sat on my kids feet I probably would have yelled more than the word *** at them. I don't care how distracted you are you look before you sit! Oh and I am a rather large woman and belive me I can feel someone's feet underneath my "butt".

Thank you I guess you have experienced a less than fun parade moment too. Just wanted to say I never made a comment about the lady's weight, just said she a bigger lady. which to me meant taller, larger framed lady. I would not make fun of someones weight as I had 2 kids and am far from perfect.

 

[catherines_mama]

I had to look up my Dec trip report for this... class line cutters. but in reality, I think they were just caught up in their own world. It was annoying but didn't ruin my trip.

**Incident # 1
I get in line for Guest Services and DD has to go potty. I was in line and wanted to get this done. She's 5, she has a peircing scream and knows to use it when a stranger touches her so I send her to the potty, but I watch her the entire way, that kind of "I'm in line but I'm craning my neck" kind of thing. SO! This is when I realize my STAMP is back. Its my turn to step up to the desk and I take my 1st step then I was SHOCKED! A woman comes rushing up and gives me the "one minute" finger (the good one LOL). 'No she didn't'. She said to me "I'll just be one second" and walked on up to the desk! I was like the women in line behind me were like we looked at eachother like . She asked me (the woman behind me) if I was going to say anything. Umm I wanted to .. but I really could not get a grip of what just happened and didn't really know what to say. AND I am a relaxed Disney traveler this week. I don't want to get all UNDISNEY-LIKE on her *rearend*. But whats up with that rudeness. and NO it did not take 1 second. It took 3 minutes! I walked up to the same CM as soon as she walked away and was a bit and said "This one REALLY will just take a second" and you know what... it did. 40 to be specific. He put in my room # and hit print. Handed it to me, I said THANK YOU gathered up DD (she was back, in one piece) and went on my way. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Why didn't the CM inform her that she is NO more important then me or the ladies behind me. NO MORE! I paid my money, I have a schedule and I WAS IN LINE!!!!! *deep breath* okay.. thanks

***Incident #2
Piglet is NEXT TO US, we're the NEXT table and a family of I swear 12 approaches the handler and says "we've seen everyone, we're just waiting on Piglet before we go to the park, may we [insert gesture to CUT LINE]" ARE THEY KIDDING!!! DON'T THEY KNOW THE ROUTINE! YOU WAIT YOUR (undisneylike words) TURN!!! But no, the CM says "sure". ARE THEY KIDDING!!!

Then .. LOL Not Disney but funny
we're at the video store last weekend. there are no lines just one line and 2 counters, whoever is next goes to the next open. Okay so we're waiting, and waiting (it was a Friday) and finally we're next and now the only people left waiting. The guy is behind the counter changing the drawer out and I'm patient so I wait to hear "next". A young couple walks up and goes to the counter and waits for him to be ready.. I thought "they're just asking a question". Nope after 2 min of the guy messing in the drawer he's ready to help someone and they start to checkout. I didn;t just sit by. I spoke up! I said "Excuse me, but we've been waiting for about 5 minutes here to be helped, we are next in line". I got the eye roll and the deep sigh. well HELLO you arent the only people in the video store! SOO annoyed me.

Most trips I'm very calm about that stuff, but sometimes, I'm sorry, no one person is more entitled then anyone else!

 

[Sparkled]

Hey, if you agree with an over the top, angry tyrade with foul language around your children, then I'm more than happy to be in the minority. I think you need to reread the poster's original post. The person she insulted did NOT sit on her children. As she describes it, they were IN their strollers, so she most likely was sitting on their feet and due to her excess weight, probably couldn't even feel that she was sitting on them. It was an exagerated reaction to feeling slighted by someone after waiting for the parade and she is obviously using her children being possibly "hurt" as an excuse for HER rude behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right!! And, if you feel they do, then as I said, I'm glad to be in the minority.

Not to mention, the poster stated that she felt the woman sitting on a body part of her child was the same as if the woman intentionally struck her children. Hmm? I'm failing to see that logic. She verbally accosted the woman based on THAT logic.....that she INTENTIONALLY came to Disneyworld that day and said I'm going to crush a small child with my enormous bottom!! That's too rich!

This argument is beginning to take on a life of its own with everyone slowly chiming into defend this exagerated response. Soon, the story will not only be that the lady sat on top of her children's legs while they were in their stroller.....but that she then grew horns and tale and vowed to make their day at Disney a living nightmare!!!!!!

Loco, I think everyone who is defending or smashing the person should reread the post. Plus if it is something you don't agree with THEN GO TO A DIFFERENT THREAD! There are plenty of other threads around here. I think that you are just not comprehending what you read. When you go to Disney you will most likely react like some of the other people here! Everyone needs to reread the post! Rant over.

 

[Scot-n-Michelle]

Not only are people rude at parades and line cutting - but what about all those that sit behind you at a show and continually talk the whole time. I noticed this alot this past trip - ny blood boiled a few times. It seemed to always be those from other countries speaking a different language. When we were at Beauty and the Best 2 weeks ago a woman would not shut up right behind us - i gave her dirty looks a few times - when she would not shut up i had my son stand on the bleachers and block her daughters view - i find it very rude when you wait to see a show and have to listen to someone speak the whole time. also what about those that let their child scream and yell the whole time. yes i have kids and they have cried at some point or another but if they continue to go on i will take them out of the show. Some people have no RESPECT !!!!

 

[chepar]

I've experienced this behavior at Disneyland many times and I think it may be "worse" at WDW, simply because it is bigger with a lot more people in attendance on any given day.

There are rude people everywhere and I admit that this really gets my blood boiling. Actually, without a lot of prodding I can probably start ranting about a parade experience that happened 2 years ago.

I also hate during the crush of people after the last parade - you know, when it's a giant mass of people shuffling along really slowly - the ones that rudely push their way through, just to get ahead more quickly. Just as bad are the ones that think you're deliberately pushing into them (uh, it's the 5,000 bodies behind me that are pushing, I can't help it) and start elbowing you and cussing you out.

 

[pweyl36]

Not only are people rude at parades and line cutting - but what about all those that sit behind you at a show and continually talk the whole time. I noticed this alot this past trip - ny blood boiled a few times. It seemed to always be those from other countries speaking a different language. When we were at Beauty and the Best 2 weeks ago a woman would not shut up right behind us - i gave her dirty looks a few times - when she would not shut up i had my son stand on the bleachers and block her daughters view - i find it very rude when you wait to see a show and have to listen to someone speak the whole time. also what about those that let their child scream and yell the whole time. yes i have kids and they have cried at some point or another but if they continue to go on i will take them out of the show. Some people have no RESPECT !!!!

I know what you mean. We were at mickeys philharmnic last week,and this lady behind me cell phone keep ringing. so instead of shutting it off she keep letting it ring ,so finally after the 3rd ring i turned around and yelled "turn it off" and she did.