Palo brunch ID hassle on Dream

[jane01jp]

Except it’s your ID to get on and off the ship in each port (some countries require a separate gov issued ID but that’s for their customs- to reboard Disney just needs your KTTW), it’s the ID you use to prove you’re over 18 in the adult venues, and it’s the ID you use to claim you children including babies from the clubs.

If it’s valid ID to give you a baby I think it would be valid to give you a drink.

GAME. SET. MATCH!

 

[undertheradar]

When did Disney become a government entity? A valid ID would be government issued.

 

[jane01jp]

When did Disney become a government entity? A valid ID would be government issued.

To the earlier comment, that means that Disney will give babies to people without a valid ID.

 

[bbel]

To the earlier comment, that means that Disney will give babies to people without a valid ID.

Since when do you need valid ID to pick up kids on land though?
Alcohol, yes....

 

[jane01jp]

Since when do you need valid ID to pick up kids on land though?
Alcohol, yes....

At the hospital, you have to have matching bracelets - their form of ID - kind of like DCL's form of ID is the KTTW card.

And, since when can a ship's captain perform a marriage ceremony on land though?

And, by the way, I just today discovered that we had received two complimentary bottles of champagne. I had about a quarter of one glass, but my wife, son, and his girlfriend consumed the remainder. Since it was being kept on ice and being poured for us, I never noticed.

I suppose DCL will start asking everyone for additional ID so they can give away more stuff - ha ha.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Since when can a ship's captain perform a marriage ceremony on land though?

Well, he can't really. What the captain can do is a symbolic "ceremony" but it's not legal. People who get married onboard the ship are actually married just prior to boarding by an official person from the county, or a minister who's been legally authorized to marry people within that county. And the people getting married must get their marriage license from that location to have the marriage be legal.

 

[jane01jp]

Well, he can't really. What the captain can do is a symbolic "ceremony" but it's not legal. People who get married onboard the ship are actually married just prior to boarding by an official person from the county, or a minister who's been legally authorized to marry people within that county. And the people getting married must get their marriage license from that location to have the marriage be legal.

Princess Schmoo, thanks for the clarification!

 

[sweetpee_1993]

So at some point I had it down what everything on the front of a KTTW Card was. Adults have an A printed on the front of the card. I’d have to dig through boxes to look at old key cards for my sons, but I’m wondering if the A is printed on the key card for 18+ or 21+. Seems like they could put a marking on the key cards to differentiate who is or is not old enough to drink. If there’s any doubt if the presenter of the card is the legit key holder just scan it and look at the picture. It’s not that hard.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

So at some point I had it down what everything on the front of a KTTW Card was. Adults have an A printed on the front of the card. I’d have to dig through boxes to look at old key cards for my sons, but I’m wondering if the A is printed on the key card for 18+ or 21+. Seems like they could put a marking on the key cards to differentiate who is or is not old enough to drink. If there’s any doubt if the presenter of the card is the legit key holder just scan it and look at the picture. It’s not that hard.

On an adult card it's an "A". On an 18-20 year old adult it's a "B". On those under 18 it's a "M".

 

[tvguy]

Yes. We had a reservation. And, the waiter looked directly at my 19 year old daughter, stated her name, and offered her a non-alcoholic beverage. He then asked the others for their IDs.

Seems odd. They have run every passenger through all the TSA checks, but they don't know which passengers are over 21.

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

If there’s any doubt if the presenter of the card is the legit key holder just scan it and look at the picture. It’s not that hard.

This is, ultimately, what was done in the case that started this thread. The cast member started by asking for a photo ID, likely because some people do just stick their DL in with the KTTW for the duration for getting on/off in ports, and the person in question didn't have one. So the cast member in question took the KTTW card and scanned it to verify the proper person presented it. It is a ton of worry over what is a non-issue.

 

[jane01jp]

This is, ultimately, what was done in the case that started this thread. The cast member started by asking for a photo ID, likely because some people do just stick their DL in with the KTTW for the duration for getting on/off in ports, and the person in question didn't have one. So the cast member in question took the KTTW card and scanned it to verify the proper person presented it. It is a ton of worry over what is a non-issue.

It would have been a non-issue, but the waiter obviously knew who was who before we even got there, and still made a big to do about it. He pushed back against being presented the KTTW card, and said "I don't need the room key, I need to see an ID." I told him the room key had a picture on file, and he could go check that. That's what he (presumably) did, as he stomped off. He seemed to recover his poise for the rest of the meal, and it was fine. It just created an awkward situation.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

A lot of places in Fl will card you if you look under 30. The CM was probably instructed to check out of caution and used his judgement. I don't see that this is an issue and having a regular ID card is good to have at all times no matter where you are...imo.

 

[phinz]

I still remember the day my wife was first not carded for a drink. She looked so sad. She still convinces herself it is a compliment to get carded when we visit friends in Tennessee, where state law is everyone shows ID .

Funny thing, they're not doing that as often in Tennessee these days. I honestly can't remember the last time my wife or I was carded at a restaurant, and we live in the heart of East Tennessee.

 

[jane01jp]

A lot of places in Fl will card you if you look under 30. The CM was probably instructed to check out of caution and used his judgement. I don't see that this is an issue and having a regular ID card is good to have at all times no matter where you are...imo.

It would be good if their abundance of caution also extended to refusing to serve people over 21 when they are three sheets to the wind.

We watched the service team at 687 make multiple,vigorous, protracted efforts to wake a "gentleman" who "fell asleep" at their establishment.

 

[Expatriat]

>>KTTW cards, while they do have a photo attached, do not have a signature on them.>>

I agree that a KTTW is not a valid ID for anything beyond onboard charging purposes and boarding the ship, and a "real" ID like Passport or DL is required along with it to re-board in ports. However, every KTTW I have ever had on DCL actually DOES have a signature spot on the back of the card above which it reads "Valid photo ID required for signature verification" and beneath which it reads "Guest signature required." I have always signed it and I always carry my ID. I certainly can't complain about the additional size or weight!

 

[DisneyWishes14]

It would have been a non-issue, but the waiter obviously knew who was who before we even got there, and still made a big to do about it. He pushed back against being presented the KTTW card, and said "I don't need the room key, I need to see an ID." I told him the room key had a picture on file, and he could go check that. That's what he (presumably) did, as he stomped off. He seemed to recover his poise for the rest of the meal, and it was fine. It just created an awkward situation.

OP, I would have felt exactly as you had, especially since you didn't even order the drinks. I'm glad the manager did something to apologize for the server's behavior. Given the government ID you must present in order get a KTTW card, the KTTW card should suffice for ID on DCL.

 

[SnowWhite2]

I find it laughable. My DD was 16 and served alcohol by DCL beverage servers on NYE at mid nite. She was served so much that she and her friends were so drunk they couldn't stand up and she fell in front of an officer. No one on DCL seemed to care. I tried to talk to the beverage manager about serving Champagne to anyone who grabs a drink from the tray but they weren't interested or concerned about the process. This also happens during the Captain reception when they hand out free drinks. Just because Palo seems strict on looking for IDs, that isn't the case on the rest of the ship.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I'll be on the other side and say, why wouldn't anyone bring ID if they are going to drink alcohol?

Sure, each of your bands has your pictures and DOB. But does the person who checks you in actually verify all the details from the ID that was given? There are all sorts of mis-steps that can happen when checking in, etc. What if he or she input it incorrectly into the system?

I don't carry my ID on board in the ship. It's back in my room, in the safe because I can only use my KTTW card on board to purchase anything.

 

[jane01jp]

I don't carry my ID on board in the ship. It's back in my room, in the safe because I can only use my KTTW card on board to purchase anything.

Same.