Paid FP options coming soon to WDW?

[Eric Smith]

They did have EMH in the AM's that rotated between either park, I believe.

Yeah, they did. I was referring specifically to any MaxPass perks.

 

[JakeAZ]

Speak for yourself! I will absolutely balk at an additional $20/25 per person. Multiply that by 4 people by four days and add the Canadian exchange rate and you're talking an extra $500, which to our budget is a VERY big deal.

Paid FP+ is probably a deal breaker for us. With 3 out of 4 members having health issues, one with Autism, even with DAS, without FP+, Disney just will not be a good experience. So, if that's what it comes to other people will get our Disney money.

That's fair, but that doesn't disprove my point.

You will take your money elsewhere and you'd have every reason to do that.

But...people who know going in that is the new price to use FP, will most likely just add it in as a cost. Will it mean they may have to get rid of the park hopper option? The water parks and more option? Stay one day less? Stay off-site? Possibly.

If you are going to WDW for the rides and you have already invested all the money it takes to do a trip like this, you'll more than likely find a way to make sure you get on the same playing field as most of the other guests.

 

[jessiegirl1982]

Yeah, they did. I was referring specifically to any MaxPass perks.

Yeah to clarify MaxPass was available to anyone that wanted to purchase it or had an add on to their AP as I did (EMH was separate perk for onsite guests and certain multi-day tickets). I honestly do not this a MaxPass at WDW will be more popular than DL. It is very expensive, and some days it definitely wasn't worth it. Some families will pay for it, some won't. I definitely won't pay $20/day pp for it at WDW.
I paid a $100 as a add-on for the year to my Flex AP, but that was more for the picture benefit than the actual rides (very few kid rides were on FP.. basically Small World). It did function like the FP+ system when looking for FP, though. I could generally get a headline ride in the same way as FP+ by refreshing constantly.

 

[closetmickey]

I, for one, do not want to see Max Pass at WDW. If they did, whatever they charge for it, will just be seen as a mandatory add on. Nobody is going to balk at an additional $20/$25 per person when you've already dropped $$$$ on the trip. So then everyone will have it and there will be nothing special about it.

Kinda reminds me of the FP+ program. Except now you'd be paying for the privilege of getting to the same playing field as everyone.

If you're gonna charge, make it special. Make it worth it.

Not sure about that. It really adds up for a family on a multi day vacation.

 

[JakeAZ]

Not sure about that. It really adds up for a family on a multi day vacation.

Maybe

But for a family of 4, a desert party is $400+ for what, 20 minutes? Those sell out.

A Tower Theme Park view room (with no fireworks currently showing) is $900+ per night at Contemporary during busy season. People still pay it.

Disney has shown time and time again they can "overcharge" and people will just keep paying.

 

[ford91exploder]

I think if they don't want people flocking to off-site (less expensive) hotels, they need to give on-site some sort of incentive. Especially since we've not seen the on-site resorts filling up to the point that they are opening everything that is closed yet. Be interesting if they followed Universal on their version in that on-site would get it (a certain level or number anyway?) free.

Parkhopping could be dealt with by tying it to your park pass. Only use it in the park you have the pass for that day. FP was limited that way when you made them in advance- and the day-of ones were typically limited to non-headliners.

One tweak I'd love to see- take it OFF of rides like IASW or Pirates. End of night Pirates used to be an easy wait, but FP killed the wait times on that ride!

Wall St Disney believes the Disney name is sufficient in and of itself to ensure full hotels and so far they have been correct at WDW, They want the new money’one and done’ trips.

Disney fans are looked upon as the equivalent of police and fire dept ‘foamers’ by the current management.

 

[JakeAZ]

They want the new money’one and done’ trips

Yup.

Families that will just bite the bullet and spend whatever to have that one "great" trip. Knowing, if they ever come back, it won't be for many more years.

 

[mshanson3121]

That's fair, but that doesn't disprove my point.

You will take your money elsewhere and you'd have every reason to do that.

But...people who know going in that is the new price to use FP, will most likely just add it in as a cost. Will it mean they may have to get rid of the park hopper option? The water parks and more option? Stay one day less? Stay off-site? Possibly.

If you are going to WDW for the rides and you have already invested all the money it takes to do a trip like this, you'll more than likely find a way to make sure you get on the same playing field as most of the other guests.

Actually, it kind of does disprove it. You said NOBODY is going to balk at the cost. You've already had three people point out that yes, they will. People WILL balk at it. People will not go to Disney because of it. Other people will choose to still go, but skip the FP add on. No one said it would be the majority of people, just that some/plenty of people will - when you were claiming no one would.

 

[JakeAZ]

Actually, it kind of does disprove it. You said NOBODY is going to balk at the cost. You've already had three people point out that yes, they will. People WILL balk at it. People will not go to Disney because of it. Other people will choose to still go, but skip the FP add on. No one said it would be the majority of people, just that some/plenty of people will - when you were claiming no one would.

Fair enough. While I did mean people who commit to going, I didn't not specifically state that. I also did say "nobody" but I thought the hyperbole would come across. It obviously didn't.

So I'll clarify.

For people who are spending quite a bit of money on a trip, most are not going to get let a $25pp barrier be the "bridge too far". They will find other ways to save / cut.

The people who decide to just not go because of a Max Pass like system are not factored into my comment. No offense, but if Disney did do something like this, the goal would be to make some families choose not to come.

As a previous poster said, they want the "one and done" trips. Spare no expense.

 

[mamaofsix]

Fair enough. While I did mean people who commit to going, I didn't not specifically state that. I also did say "nobody" but I thought the hyperbole would come across. It obviously didn't.

So I'll clarify.

For people who are spending quite a bit of money on a trip, most are not going to get let a $25pp barrier be the "bridge too far". They will find other ways to save / cut.

The people who decide to just not go because of a Max Pass like system are not factored into my comment. No offense, but if Disney did do something like this, the goal would be to make some families choose not to come.

As a previous poster said, they want the "one and done" trips. Spare no expense.

Honestly, I can't see Disney charging $25 / day / pp for it. I think something like $60 is more likely going to be their starting point if it's truly going to be like Universal's express pass or max pass. $25 and most would do it. Disney is going to price it so high that it will price out at least half the guests. It would be logistically impossible to have short fp lines otherwise.

 

[JakeAZ]

Honestly, I can't see Disney charging $25 / day / pp for it. I think something like $60 is more likely going to be their starting point if it's truly going to be like Universal's express pass or max pass. $25 and most would do it. Disney is going to price it so high that it will price out at least half the guests. It would be logistically impossible to have short fp lines otherwise.

couldn't agree more.

Pricing it so most would do it defeats the purpose.

 

[sabrecmc]

Honestly, I can't see Disney charging $25 / day / pp for it. I think something like $60 is more likely going to be their starting point if it's truly going to be like Universal's express pass or max pass. $25 and most would do it. Disney is going to price it so high that it will price out at least half the guests. It would be logistically impossible to have short fp lines otherwise.

This seems logical to me. Maybe a starting price of $59/day/person? Honestly, if it were truly a fastpass for all fastpass rides at any time I wanted to ride them, I would happily pay that and more. Throw in a guaranteed RotR (and Remy, if it applies) boarding group and they could probably charge more pretty easily.

 

[Missingmypooh]

Fair enough. While I did mean people who commit to going, I didn't not specifically state that. I also did say "nobody" but I thought the hyperbole would come across. It obviously didn't.

So I'll clarify.

For people who are spending quite a bit of money on a trip, most are not going to get let a $25pp barrier be the "bridge too far". They will find other ways to save / cut.

The people who decide to just not go because of a Max Pass like system are not factored into my comment. No offense, but if Disney did do something like this, the goal would be to make some families choose not to come.

As a previous poster said, they want the "one and done" trips. Spare no expense.

AND any visitors going forward will have a more positive experience.

the paid FP people because they got their rides, and the rest of the visitors will see a decrease in overall attendance. (Number one guest complaint is something like crowds/lines/other people)

 

[closetmickey]

The thing that made me a little sad about Maxpass when it was introduced (we are local to DL) was that it felt like the parks were once again catering to the adult only group who were buying one, possibly two tickets. $25/day is much more feasible to some then $100/day. I know...it’s the “price” of having a family but thinking of all the adults skipping the line while the littles waited just felt a little off to me. No debate needed- just my own personal thought.

 

[JakeAZ]

This seems logical to me. Maybe a starting price of $59/day/person? Honestly, if it were truly a fastpass for all fastpass rides at any time I wanted to ride them, I would happily pay that and more. Throw in a guaranteed RotR (and Remy, if it applies) boarding group and they could probably charge more pretty easily.

Honestly, I can't see Disney charging $25 / day / pp for it. I think something like $60 is more likely going to be their starting point if it's truly going to be like Universal's express pass or max pass. $25 and most would do it. Disney is going to price it so high that it will price out at least half the guests. It would be logistically impossible to have short fp lines otherwise.

If we're using the Universal model, they are around $99 on slow days and over $300 on insanely crowded days.

Now, I don't believe WDW will include that type of offering with Deluxe hotel stays, like Universal does, but maybe they give an on-site price / off-site price?

 

[afan]

Honestly, I can't see Disney charging $25 / day / pp for it. I think something like $60 is more likely going to be their starting point if it's truly going to be like Universal's express pass or max pass. $25 and most would do it. Disney is going to price it so high that it will price out at least half the guests. It would be logistically impossible to have short fp lines otherwise.

60 bucks just to be able to access fast pass? Disney might be money hungry and nuts but not that nuts. Maxpass is just the paper fp system with a shorter wait between pulls and a very slight ability to move one around, but not really. It really is just a digital paper fp system.

Whether you liked fp+ for your 3 a day, or could maximize it's benefits, it's a far better system than maxpass. You can actually change times without cancelling your fp, you can move them all around. It's a far friendlier system to use. Keep what it is and shorten the window, make it day of or whatever, but don't change it to maxpass. I do think there would be far more people unhappy with that change than having to pay for it.

I do think it'll change but I don't think it's going to change as drastically as some here. Maxpass works for dl and the type of visitors they get there and you can still pull a paper fp. I just don't see how it comes to wdw.

And an express pass like uso I don't see as likely because while that's never how they've done it isn't a good reason, I've also seen very few people actually using it when I've been in their parks. Those that I read about using it, 90% are because they are staying on site and it's a perk.

Neither really fit with how a lot, not all, do wdw. I'm sure they'll be some form of paid fp but we'll see if paying is the only way to use it.

 

[Missingmypooh]

If we're using the Universal model, they are around $99 on slow days and over $300 on insanely crowded days.

Now, I don't believe WDW will include that type of offering with Deluxe hotel stays, like Universal does, but maybe they give an on-site price / off-site price?

And I can’t follow this thread till something concrete comes out.

100 dollars a day? I know uni does it but DAYUM.

Gonna give myself nightmares about my next disney trip.

 

[JakeAZ]

And I can’t follow this thread till something concrete comes out.

100 dollars a day? I know uni does it but DAYUM.

Gonna give myself nightmares about my next disney trip.

$100 on days where you most likely don't need it.

$300 over spring break.

Good thing most on here know to just stay a USO hotel that includes it.

 

[Missingmypooh]

$100 on days where you most likely don't need it.

$300 over spring break.

Good thing most on here know to just stay a USO hotel that includes it.

Might as well do a VIP tour and hit all the headliners if you’ve got two parties or a larger family.

 

[Runnsally]

$100 on days where you most likely don't need it.

$300 over spring break.

Good thing most on here know to just stay a USO hotel that includes it.

If it’s close to the DL Maxpass system, no way it’s $100/day even if WDW gets ambitious. Somewhere in the $30-40/day range and maybe a more expensive option with greater benefits.