Paid FP options coming soon to WDW?

[Sarah1024]

In park guest relations isn’t the only way to complain either, nor is it always time spent instead of time spent in the parks.

Front line CMs will absolutely be hearing it, so that’s going to suck for them. There’s also people who will wait until they’re back at their resort, people who will email guest relations after, and people who will hold off until the end of their day to go to guest relations when it isn’t wasting their park time.

I think they’re mistaken if they don’t think people are going to take it much worse than current break downs when FP+ are not an extra cost. I don’t think those people are in the wrong either. Disney should absolutely hear it when people are disappointed with something, whether it’s stationary photo boxes or a broke down ride they paid for.

Exactly. I won't wait in line at GS, but you can bet I will be calling and e-mailing until I get a satisfactory resolution.

 

[tlmadden73]

Disney does listen to complaints though. I am sure the reason they are rolling out stroller restrictions are due to complaints about too many big strollers in the park. Heck, my dad wrote a letter (and got a response) about that exact thing.

So .. I am sure they will roll out a paid FP system that will be flexible. ... OR they paid FP will just be (in itself) flexible .. so if rides break down you just hop on another ride.

But .. whether we like it or not .. the FP+ system is collapsing under its own weight with more and more people using it .. more non-Disney hotels getting 60-day perks and the ability to make 4th Fast passes on the phone ... It is hard enough to get the 3 you want at 60 days, and getting any day of (unless you want to ride Small World or Dumbo) is almost impossible.
I am sure they get tons of complaints currently about not getting a FP at 60 days .. or having rides break down ..or not able to find anything at 30 or day of.

Having a paid tier will limit the amount of Fast Passes available to the ever growing amount of guests.

Really .. I think they should just ditch the whole scheduling concept ..but I bet Disney gets a LOT of good metadata from that, so I doubt that will ever change.

 

[SaharanTea]

But .. whether we like it or not .. the FP+ system is collapsing under its own weight with more and more people using it .. more non-Disney hotels getting 60-day perks and the ability to make 4th Fast passes on the phone ... It is hard enough to get the 3 you want at 60 days, and getting any day of (unless you want to ride Small World or Dumbo) is almost impossible.
I am sure they get tons of complaints currently about not getting a FP at 60 days .. or having rides break down ..or not able to find anything at 30 or day of.

That problem wasn't even an unintentional consequence due to lack of planning (like the lack of ride capacity, which is the actual overarching problem Disney has). That was a straight up conscious decision.

 

[The Pho]

OR they paid FP will just be (in itself) flexible .. so if rides break down you just hop on another ride.

That would just be an issue. Since right now they’re free, getting a different ride is acceptable. Once you’ve paid for Flight of Passage, other rides aren’t acceptable. Free has more flexibility. Depending on how they go about implementing it. If it’s a wider package that could work, if it’s specific rides, that would not.

 

[Sarah1024]

Disney does listen to complaints though. I am sure the reason they are rolling out stroller restrictions are due to complaints about too many big strollers in the park. Heck, my dad wrote a letter (and got a response) about that exact thing.

But .. whether we like it or not .. the FP+ system is collapsing under its own weight with more and more people using it .. more non-Disney hotels getting 60-day perks and the ability to make 4th Fast passes on the phone ... It is hard enough to get the 3 you want at 60 days, and getting any day of (unless you want to ride Small World or Dumbo) is almost impossible.
I am sure they get tons of complaints currently about not getting a FP at 60 days .. or having rides break down ..or not able to find anything at 30 or day of.


Really .. I think they should just ditch the whole scheduling concept ..but I bet Disney gets a LOT of good metadata from that, so I doubt that will ever change.

The easy solution to this is to not let hotels that aren't actually on-site Disney hotels have the advantage. That is hurting the people who actually pay and stay on Disney property.
They aren't going to ditch the scheduling - it gives them too much information to plan ahead and for staffing.

 

[isabellea]

The easy solution to this is to not let hotels that aren't actually on-site Disney hotels have the advantage. That is hurting the people who actually pay and stay on Disney property.
They aren't going to ditch the scheduling - it gives them too much information to plan ahead and for staffing.

Except that those hotels probably pay for this benefits and WDW knows that once SWGE opens, their onsite rooms will be all booked for months and years!

 

[Miffy]

I just have to hop in here for a sec. I missed probably 20-plus pages of this thread. Is WDW for sure implementing some kind of paid FP+ system? Or is all the talk here just speculation? Because reading the last 10 pages, it seems like it's a done deal and now everyone's saying how/why/if it'd work and how they'd fix it, etc.

 

[Cinderumbrella]

I just have to hop in here for a sec. I missed probably 20-plus pages of this thread. Is WDW for sure implementing some kind of paid FP+ system? Or is all the talk here just speculation? Because reading the last 10 pages, it seems like it's a done deal and now everyone's saying how/why/if it'd work and how they'd fix it, etc.

Still speculation based on recent chatter from reliable insiders.

 

[SaharanTea]

I just have to hop in here for a sec. I missed probably 20-plus pages of this thread. Is WDW for sure implementing some kind of paid FP+ system? Or is all the talk here just speculation? Because reading the last 10 pages, it seems like it's a done deal and now everyone's saying how/why/if it'd work and how they'd fix it, etc.

Nothing official, but there have been a couple of insider types with heavy hints at what might be coming. Couple that with all the speculation about how to handle Galaxy's Edge crowds, most think it's inevitable. You also have other tangential data points like the changes to stroller and smoking rules and the strange tinkering with the fast pass system. Plus, there's the well-known Club Level FP trial.

Some of us dread whatever may be coming (like me). Others seem to think it will help them somehow. A few think it's the normal rumor mill churning and nothing will come of it (I'll gladly take this option). Maybe Disney will chicken out on big changes, but they definitely seem to be mulling things.

 

[jhoannam]

Reminds me too much of a state or county fair. Would probably be the end of our trips.

Except for the state fair is only $5 to get in.

 

[Kaufeegurl]

But .. whether we like it or not .. the FP+ system is collapsing under its own weight with more and more people using it .. more non-Disney hotels getting 60-day perks and the ability to make 4th Fast passes on the phone ... It is hard enough to get the 3 you want at 60 days, and getting any day of (unless you want to ride Small World or Dumbo) is almost impossible.
I am sure they get tons of complaints currently about not getting a FP at 60 days .. or having rides break down ..or not able to find anything at 30 or day of.

Exactly. Either you're staying on property or not. And if you're not then I truly feel that some perks should be exclusive to a Disney reservation. Disney has diluted the resort experience to the point where they have to offer incentives to fill their rooms. (Parking fees, a diluted pool of advance FP and ADR reservations, etc). I don't understand the business model Disney is apparently using by welcoming off-site hotels into the "family" when they can't fill their own rooms without major incentives. But this is a topic for another thread.

 

[afan]

Except for the state fair is only $5 to get in.

Wish it was that cheap here, would make the rides more reasonable too. I think an evening special ride pass is 30 or 40 and doesn't include the permanent wooden coaster. I think the last time we did the coaster 5 or 6 years ago at the short weekend spring fait it was like 8 pp for the coaster. Imagine it's more for the actual state fair in Sept.

 

[lcc2]

Because I made a fun post in jest, which I think most people understand but you don't even after I explained it, you write a thinly veiled wish that I have a hard time making fast passes in 2020.

Obnoxious.

WTH. It's a Disney vacation planning board. I can have fun with people on here, joke, even have some fiery debates with certain posters, but I really can't stand when people act like this.

(and I've been posting in this thread since it began, I'm not combining anything)

(and I hate myself that I even responded )

I don’t know why that poster is taking what you said so negatively...you obviously weren’t making fun of the people in that thread, you were making light of a stressful situation!

 

[anomamatt]

These numbers correlate to $25 and $38 american money if google is correct. That is not nearly expensive enough for EVERYONE not to buy them. Interesting.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but if your reasoning is correct, why doesn't everyone enter the park twice and get 6 pre-booked FP a day?

A 7-day ticket is (as low as) $61/day. If you value park entry as $0 (which is appropriate given it would be used for a second entry), right now that means a pre-booked FP is "worth" $20 (on a 7-day ticket).

So if they charge more than $20 for additional FP, it would be smarter to just buy two sets of tickets and enter the parks twice.

 

[Disneypro1]

Imho. Paid FP. I’m ok with that. On property guests only get any fast pass. That’s the thing I’d love to see. Stay off site. Fine. But wait in line.

 

[snappy]

Exactly. Either you're staying on property or not. And if you're not then I truly feel that some perks should be exclusive to a Disney reservation. Disney has diluted the resort experience to the point where they have to offer incentives to fill their rooms. (Parking fees, a diluted pool of advance FP and ADR reservations, etc). I don't understand the business model Disney is apparently using by welcoming off-site hotels into the "family" when they can't fill their own rooms without major incentives. But this is a topic for another thread.

I would characterize it as greed.

 

[eliseisawkward]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but if your reasoning is correct, why doesn't everyone enter the park twice and get 6 pre-booked FP a day?

A 7-day ticket is (as low as) $61/day. If you value park entry as $0 (which is appropriate given it would be used for a second entry), right now that means a pre-booked FP is "worth" $20 (on a 7-day ticket).

So if they charge more than $20 for additional FP, it would be smarter to just buy two sets of tickets and enter the parks twice.

That’s probably against TOS in some way. Or if people start doing that they will make it against TOS.

 

[anomamatt]

That’s probably against TOS in some way. Or if people start doing that they will make it against TOS.

It’s not now. And do you really think Disney would be upset if people paid twice to enter the parks?

 

[DGsAtBLT]

It’s not now. And do you really think Disney would be upset if people paid twice to enter the parks?

I vaguely remember this being a problem when it was suggested back when there was a hard 3 FP limit. Anyone else remember that? I might be misremembering!

 

[Tink_83]

It’s not now. And do you really think Disney would be upset if people paid twice to enter the parks?

If they made more money on the sale of FP then yes they would care... right now, probably not. I wonder if people not staying at CL could use this to book extra FP at 60 days out.