OT teenage daughters not LISTENING

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Okay for starters I did not text him first he text me with a stupid question, when I gave him my honest opinion which he did not like that is when things got ugly. Did I admit I was wrong, yes I did, did I apologize to him, yes I did. #2 because your child is 18 and a legal adult does not mean that they are done being mothered, those that commented calling me a troll, you don't have children or are a terrible parent in my opinion. I am an over protective parent, in todays society that is what it takes to protect your child from the terrible people out there, this is what is wrong with most of the kids today their parents think they are grown at 13, because mom and dad are too busy with their life and career the parents ignore the kids, throwing money at them. Please understand that I am not okay with her dating men this much older than her, but as it was pointed out she is growing up and making her on decisions, I am a sounding board, but also her mother and I do not want her falling so hard that she cannot recover for a very long time, being a young adult is when you are to be having the best time of your life, not trying to get over a bozo like him. I am learning to back off, but when I am asked a question by anyone I will answer with an honest answer, can most of the posters here say that, from the flames that were thrown at me, I doubt if they could in person, only hiding behind a monitor in the safety of there home. For those of you that gave your honest opinion and did not throw flames thank you, understanding about being a GOOD parent and trying to help your child is not a crime. Again thank you.

Have a nice day everyone!

I am sorry for this long off topic post, but I need the advice of everyone here on the DIS.

A little history, I am sorry but it is long.

My 18 year old daughter is beautiful and could have any guy she wants. She has moved on from the high school boys they are way to immature, she prefers men in their mid to late 20"s. She has plans of going to college locally. She is not looking for a husband, but does not want to jump from guy to guy.

Okay this really did happen by the way. Daughter meets guy thur a good friend, good friend gives him a phone number which just happens to be my phone number. Guy does not know this, so he texts me, after getting thur awkward moment of who are you and what do you want game, I discovered who this was. My daughter stared texting him and they went out on their first date shortly after that. They had a wonderful time, so much so that they went out the following night, they were to hang out on Sunday but he had family things to do. Now please remember that he was 27 at the time she was 18. My daughter became very ill shortly after this relationship started and was hospitalized after having emergency surgery. This man did not even show up to the hospital, and barely text her and really started putting distance between them. So then the harassment started (we think by an old boy friend, but could never confirm) this was happening to all of us, my daughter her dad and I along with the new guy. She was blamed for the harassment from the new guy. They in turn stopped seeing each other. He told her that he is extremely attracted to her and maybe next year they can try this again. Now mid year the bozo and I have a text conversation, we were both having a bad day and well it was not one of my prouder moments as a mom. I did let him know that he hates all of us and that he is a pedophile. That did not go over well and you can imagine where the conversation went from there. We both needed a time out way before it got to this level. But what is done is done, yes I did apologizes to him but was never acknowledged on his end.

Fast forward, well it is next year and what do you think happened. My daughter contacted him, had a nice text, (what the heck is up with that, pick up the phone once in a while and actually talking, you can at least pick up tones in the other persons voice, that will give you some confirmation of what is going on.) She asked if they could hang out on friday night, he said maybe. Now he never confirmed that they would hang out on friday night. So he texts her about 5pm and tells her that they may still be going out, he will let her know. Well at 830 I asked what was going on she said that he text her and got busy. WTH is wrong with this man, she is a beautiful smart girl who would do anything for anyone, she is a good girl with her head on straight. My daughter could have her pick of guys but she is hung up on this clown. Now back to the rest of this. So I asked if they were going to do this another time? Valid question I thought, she simply said I don't know. I asked if he said anything, she said no that he was sorry but not a hint that they would be talking anytime soon. So my daughter text him to see if he was busy so they could just text and fill each other in on what has been going on in each others lives. Nothing, he never text her back. Now I know that this man works a lot of hours, but I also know that he is a Jack Mormon and likes to hang out with his friends. I am not sure if her age is bothering him or what the deal is, but he needs to be honest with her, this is not fair. I think that this man is just jerking her along, but she doesn't see it. Love is blind right? Is there really hope for this relationship or does he need to come clean. My daughter will not give up on this relationship. They also do not see each other, they live across town from one another and he works a lot, my daughter works and goes to school.

Ideas on how to guide my daughter? My daughter has asked that I not talk to him about what happened previously, she says when the time is right. This just drives me crazy to watch her bowing down to this clown, I need some thoughts or ideas on this, anything will help. TIA.
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2 female co workers and i where just talking about this at work. One coworker told us her sis 18 is seeing some guy 25yrs old . What do they have in common? NOTHING!

The 3 of us me38, coworker #1 30yrs old, co worker #3 is 25 and is the sister of the girl i mentioned. We all agree the only thing this 25yr old sees in coworkers sister is a young pretty naive girl and SEX!

I'm sorry but i see this guy just playing head games. I thing he's attracted to your dd and probably planned on having sex. Her getting sick ruined that. Now she's calling him and wont give up, he's loving it because once he does agree to see her he will have her eating out of his hand. I'm so sorry to say this and I dont mean to be mean. I dont see this relationship working. My advice is for her to RUN fast in the other direction but it doesnt look like she will.

I'm a mother myself and dread the day dd starts dating. I feel for you and your daughter. I hope this jerk doesnt break her heart to bad. All you can do is be there for her but I dont think she will listen to you. She will have to see through her own eyes this guy isnt worth it but it might take her getting her heart broken. Good luck AND PLEASE KEEP US POSTED.
 
This doesn't have anything to do with how pretty or fabulous she is, I am sure she is. But until she thinks she is worth being treated well it will just keep being this same type of guy. If you want to help her try to find ways to help her increase her self esteem. This isn't about what she deserves it is about what she thinks she deserves. Does she even see this as a problem? It will be hard to do much if she doesn't.
 
Your daughter is an adult and until she feels that she wants to end any communication and/or relationship its not going to happen.

Also, you seem a bit to invested in your daughter's romantic life. The more you bad mouth a guy the more she's going to defend him and want to continue seeing him. I think you need to step back and let her handle this herself (unless its a situation where he's abusing her.)
 

Your daughter is an adult and until she feels that she wants to end any communication and/or relationship its not going to happen.

Also, you seem a bit to invested in your daughter's romantic life. The more you bad mouth a guy the more she's going to defend him and want to continue seeing him. I think you need to step back and let her handle this herself (unless its a situation where he's abusing her.)

I can't agree more! I think it's almost inappropriate with how much you know about your dd's romantic life. I don't know nearly that amount with dd14 and ds12 combined (although I think ds is planning on asking a girl out soon - only because I read some texts, which he knows I will do, since I pay for his phone). She is 18! Step way back.
 
Your daughter is an adult and until she feels that she wants to end any communication and/or relationship its not going to happen.

Also, you seem a bit to invested in your daughter's romantic life. The more you bad mouth a guy the more she's going to defend him and want to continue seeing him. I think you need to step back and let her handle this herself (unless its a situation where he's abusing her.)


This.

She will learn from HER experiences.

Your involvement in her relationships has crossed way over the line - getting into text message fights? Really??? Does your daughter know you called him a pedophile?

I don't think I'd have much interest in 'listening' either.
 
Your daughter is an adult and until she feels that she wants to end any communication and/or relationship its not going to happen.

Also, you seem a bit to invested in your daughter's romantic life. The more you bad mouth a guy the more she's going to defend him and want to continue seeing him. I think you need to step back and let her handle this herself (unless its a situation where he's abusing her.)

I agree. Your level of involvement with your daughter's romantic life is kind of creepy, actually.

By the way, what is a Jack Mormon?
 
Honestly, any 20 something guy that would be willing to date an 18 year old is creepy to me and I would not want my DD hanging out with them. If that is the kind of guy she goes out with, that is how she is going to be treated. It is total BS that guys her age are "immature". I know PLENTY of VERY mature 18 year olds that would certainly treat her much better then the gross 27 year olds that are preying on teenagers (which is what she is).

How would I guide her, well I would have started when she was a young girl, toddler, and not focused on her looks and brought her up to have a good sense of self-worth that doesn't focus on what she looks like. She then would have had the confidence to form quality relationships with people and toss off those that are not good people.

All of this providing that this first poster is not a troll, of course.
 
This guy is definitely NOT into her... but she will never see that. I agree she needs a self-esteem boost. But it's hard - you can't help who you fall in love with, BUT you can control your actions. She's going to want him more and more, with the way he's acting all aloof. ugh!

but yes, as others have said, step back a bit. I know it's hard. :hug:

My only suggestion would be to have her read some appropriate books (I can't even recommend any - maybe someone else can) regarding relationships and not allowing men to walk over you. Love is blind, and very hard on the parents!!
 
I am sorry for this long off topic post, but I need the advice of everyone here on the DIS.

A little history, I am sorry but it is long.

My 18 year old daughter is beautiful and could have any guy she wants. She has moved on from the high school boys they are way to immature, she prefers men in their mid to late 20"s. She has plans of going to college locally. She is not looking for a husband, but does not want to jump from guy to guy.

Okay this really did happen by the way. Daughter meets guy thur a good friend, good friend gives him a phone number which just happens to be my phone number. Guy does not know this, so he texts me, after getting thur awkward moment of who are you and what do you want game, I discovered who this was. My daughter stared texting him and they went out on their first date shortly after that. They had a wonderful time, so much so that they went out the following night, they were to hang out on Sunday but he had family things to do. Now please remember that he was 27 at the time she was 18. My daughter became very ill shortly after this relationship started and was hospitalized after having emergency surgery. This man did not even show up to the hospital, and barely text her and really started putting distance between them. So then the harassment started (we think by an old boy friend, but could never confirm) this was happening to all of us, my daughter her dad and I along with the new guy. She was blamed for the harassment from the new guy. They in turn stopped seeing each other. He told her that he is extremely attracted to her and maybe next year they can try this again. Now mid year the bozo and I have a text conversation, we were both having a bad day and well it was not one of my prouder moments as a mom. I did let him know that he hates all of us and that he is a pedophile. That did not go over well and you can imagine where the conversation went from there. We both needed a time out way before it got to this level. But what is done is done, yes I did apologizes to him but was never acknowledged on his end.

Fast forward, well it is next year and what do you think happened. My daughter contacted him, had a nice text, (what the heck is up with that, pick up the phone once in a while and actually talking, you can at least pick up tones in the other persons voice, that will give you some confirmation of what is going on.) She asked if they could hang out on friday night, he said maybe. Now he never confirmed that they would hang out on friday night. So he texts her about 5pm and tells her that they may still be going out, he will let her know. Well at 830 I asked what was going on she said that he text her and got busy. WTH is wrong with this man, she is a beautiful smart girl who would do anything for anyone, she is a good girl with her head on straight. My daughter could have her pick of guys but she is hung up on this clown. Now back to the rest of this. So I asked if they were going to do this another time? Valid question I thought, she simply said I don't know. I asked if he said anything, she said no that he was sorry but not a hint that they would be talking anytime soon. So my daughter text him to see if he was busy so they could just text and fill each other in on what has been going on in each others lives. Nothing, he never text her back. Now I know that this man works a lot of hours, but I also know that he is a Jack Mormon and likes to hang out with his friends. I am not sure if her age is bothering him or what the deal is, but he needs to be honest with her, this is not fair. I think that this man is just jerking her along, but she doesn't see it. Love is blind right? Is there really hope for this relationship or does he need to come clean. My daughter will not give up on this relationship. They also do not see each other, they live across town from one another and he works a lot, my daughter works and goes to school.

Ideas on how to guide my daughter? My daughter has asked that I not talk to him about what happened previously, she says when the time is right. This just drives me crazy to watch her bowing down to this clown, I need some thoughts or ideas on this, anything will help. TIA.
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The rule, people...the rule.


OP, you are too involved. So far this guy has been harassed by your daughter's ex and accused of being a pedophile by you. He should be running for the hills.
 
I would not consider a 27 yo man who is going with an 18 yo to resemble a pedophile in any way. This may appear sexist, but for many years I have heard that for the most solid dating you should take the man's age, divide by two and add seven to get the age for the woman. So a 27 yo man would be looking for a 20 yo woman, so 18 is not out of line.
 
Butt out!!!

She's an adult and, while you can certainly tell her your feelings on the subject, there is nothing you can do to change the situation.

I feel for you. My DD18 is currently dating a boy I disapprove of (and I have told her I disapprove) but she is the one who has to make the decision to get rid of him (or not).
 
Now mid year the bozo and I have a text conversation, we were both having a bad day and well it was not one of my prouder moments as a mom. I did let him know that he hates all of us and that he is a pedophile. That did not go over well and you can imagine where the conversation went from there.

Sorry, you were wrong here...your daughter is 18, and is an ADULT. The man is not a pedophile, as your daughter is an ADULT. And I can't imagine how the man must feel to have his 'girlfriends' MOM interfering in the relationship.

It sounds like he doesn't know what kind of relationship he wants, and it sounds like your daughter doesnt' know what kind of relationship she wants. It sounds sort of casual to me (he didn't come to the hospital, they don't make firm plans ahead of time). If it's not bothering your daughter STAY OUT OF IT. And even if this relationship is bothering your daughter, STAY OUT OF IT.
 
The guy might be an immature jerk- but he's not a pedophile and you were totally out of line for calling him one.
 
I'm confused by your timeline...is your daughter 18 now, or was she 18 when she started dating the 27 year old? Your post makes it sound like it's all been going on over the course of a year or so...
Is she still in high school?

I dated guys in their 20's when I was 18...I don't necessarily see anything wrong with that. You were completely out of line to call him a pedophile for dating a legal adult.
 
With an inappropriately-involved mother and a crazy ex boyfriend, I can't imagine why he doesn't want to be in a relationship with your DD. :confused3
 
Quit texting him. Your position in this is to be a sounding board for your DD and to offer advise. Not ultimatums just advise. You should not have contact with him at all, so from now on no more.

I think if you had not been texting him this would have went away last year. He obviously doesn't "love" your DD, what he wants I don't know and possibly he doesn't even truly know.

Why is your DD so hung up on him? is She not dating anyone else? Does she have a group of other friends? I would be encouraging her to get back out into circulation and in the meantime do things with her platonic friends. As far as this guy goes I would be telling my DD over and over again in many different ways that you can't force Love and you can't control another person's feelings. If she wants to wait around on him there isn't much you can do other than make other things seem so much more fun. Possibly spring for concert tickets for her and a friend or two (other than this guy) Or just happen to have a coffee gift card laying around to get her going out with just friends.

Back off let them work it out, try to get your DD doing other things so she can see what he is offering isn't that great and then buy her a sweet frothy mocha latte and commiserate with her and agree that all men are scum when he doesn't call back on the third Friday night she has sat around waiting on him. That's the Mom's job.
 
The rule, people...the rule.


OP, you are too involved. So far this guy has been harassed by your daughter's ex and accused of being a pedophile by you. He should be running for the hills.

Exactly. I t sounds like he is avoiding her already, the DD keeps texting him. Mom, stay out of it. Well, maybe buy her a copy of The Rules first, lol.
 
I agree. Your level of involvement with your daughter's romantic life is kind of creepy, actually.

By the way, what is a Jack Mormon?


I agree it is creepy. I have an almost 18 yr old dd (6 months away) and I would NEVER be this involved in her relationship. OP she's an ADULT at this point! I get wanting to shelter your kids from getting hurt or making bad decisions but sometimes you have to let them get hurt or make a bad decision (as long as it isn't life threatening) so they understand it for themselves.

Calling the guy a pedophile was wrong. You even being involved to the level you are is wrong. Back off. Let your child find her way as long as it's not going in a direction that could really hurt her and then just be there for her when she needs someone to understand and help her through it all.


Oh and a Jack Mormon (as it was described to me by a Mormon) is a person born into the LDS faith who doesn't completely live the religion and it's ideas. Usually they have ties to the religion but they don't regularly attend church or church activities and most engage in things not acceptable like pre-marital sex, alcohol etc...
 
I can't imagine why a girl's mom would text a boyfriend (past or present) of her daughter in the first place. Step back! If I was the guy, I would run as fast as I could from that whole situation. Sounds like too much teenage drama to me, by 27 he's probably over it.
 


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