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So, I am thinking next year I may try homeschooling DD. She is in preschool right now, and while I could send her to kindergarten next year, I was going to send her another year to preschool. BUT, then I was thinking I might want to homeschool...so I was thinking next year would kind of be a 'trial' year to see what we think (and I would just slowly start the kindergarten curriculum). If I don't like it, then I can just send her to kindergarten as planned.

SO, my question is this for those of you that homeschool as I don't know much about it....
- How/where do you get all your materials? What does it cost?
- Do you get together with other homeschooling families?
- Do you like it? Do your kids like it? Do you feel they miss out on the social aspect?
- Other thoughts/advice?
 
I am homeschooling my dd right now. She is 5 (I need to update my sig!). She is in Kindergarten, and I thought homeschool would be a good trial year this year too, because otherwise I would have sent her to Pre-K.

I get my materials from a cyber school in our state, which is PA Cyber. I know for some this isn't traditional homeschool, but I like having all the curriculum ready for me, I don't think I'd ever have time to find it all myself. Plus it is paid for through our tax dollars, so we don't have to worry about going broke!

We haven't had the chance to get together with other HS families, yet. I keep searching the internet for local groups, though.

As far as socializing, my dd takes dance and gymnastics every week. She has made friends though those activities, and I don't feel that she is missing out on anything.

Overall, she loves it and so do I. I am very happy with our decision! :goodvibes
 
Hey, I'm from PA too and also use PaCyber! I love it to get started. If you have any cyber schools in your state I highly recommend it. DS7 is doing 3rd grade now without it, I'm just homeschooling. DS4 started preK this year. It is a great help to know what you need to do. I was totally amazed at how LITTLE you actually have to do in school. The worst thing I think home schoolers do is fret about not doing enough, stressed you and the kids and often makes it all fall apart. If you don't have these, you can get curriculum anywhere... ebay is great if you want a complete set of stuff but really you don't need to have anything like that for several years. I used what the cyber school had for DS7, but this year we have nothing, online info, books, computer stuff (the hooked on phonics stuff really works)... whatever is needed to keep it fun.

We have a wonderful co op in our area. We meet once a week for 10 weeks in the fall 10 in the spring... have classes for the kids and everyone gets to get together and learn and play. Plus my boys and I take tae kwon do 2-3 times a week and we have play dates with other home schoolers.

Not trying to start a fight but PLEASE don't worry about socializing!!! You're not hording your child away in your home never to go anywhere or do anything. THIS is what is really the problem. What you do on a regular basis is fine. Really, think of it, as my friend says "if I had a dime for every time I got in trouble for socializing in school I'd be rich." School is not for socializing. And the socializing I do see in schooled children I do not want my kids learning/dealing with... the bullying, the "adult" content, the rudeness and teasing. Several of our groups graduated students held a get together discussion about 2 years ago where we could all ask questions of them. The best thing I've gotten out of that or anything else was when one of them said being home schooled made all the difference in the closeness of family. At school you spend 8 hours or more with non-family, that's who you bond with. When at home you spend all that time with your family and that's who you bond with. This is the greatest part of it all.

Sorry to ramble, I just love home schooling and feel completely blessed to be able to do so. :cloud9:
 
Give it a try. We did, for one year. People will tell you that she won't be socialized. BULL. If she has activities or church and friends she will be fine. The only thing that show miss out on is a ton of bad habits and other drama from other kids.

I remember one year we were at WDW. Our waitress asked if our kids were home schooled or if we just took them out. I told her that we were homeschooling. She said that she thought that was the case, she said that they could really tell which kids were home schooled as a general rule. She meant that is a good way, so take that for what it is worth, and I am sure you will see a huge debate, but if my kids would have it, I would do it again, but they are in MS and nest year HS and they won't have it.
 

Thanks ladies! How much time would you say you do 'school' during the day? My DD takes ballet and swim class, and in jr. church. That is a good point about the socializing. The concerns you pointed out are one of the reasons I want to homeschool her! (I just helps me realize it when someone else says it! :lmao:)
 
I don't but a few things.

1) Know yourself and your daughter. I have a friend who just clashed with her daughter (her daughter is sixteen and they get along fine now - but it took a LONG time). Some homeschooling arrangements are just not good personality fits.

2) If you think she might go back to regular school after kindergarten, build that sort of structure into your day. The neighbor up the street decided to start public school in forth grade - it only lasted two weeks. Her daughter just didn't understand the "going to school" stuff that the other forth graders did (stay in your seat, don't interrupt the teacher, turn in your homework, math time is math time - not reading time). I believe she may have been "unschooled" though - which would be a not ideal methodology to use if you ever wanted to transition to public school.
 
Seriously, my pre k takes about an hour...third grade 2or 3 hours. This is actual"sit down we're doing this" time. There is always learning...counting allowances, reading books, watching science stuff...love netflix, liberties kids and beakmans world! Once you get started it's amazing how much you find yourself teaching with everything you do.
 
We homeschooled DD from grade 2 to high school graduation. For elementary we used various forms of curriculum. Rainbow Books were excellent. We attended homeschooling conferences. I know that PA has a good one in Harrisburg. For high school she used the public online high school curriculum for most of her credits. She is in her second year of college and has been on the Dean's Honor Roll every semester. The friends she made homeschooling are still her friends and she is a social butterfly. Our local HS group had many activities, swimming lessons, gymnastic, science club, ski club etc. Find a group if at all possible and if you want an activity and it doesn't exist start one and advertise it.

Nepean
 
Seriously, my pre k takes about an hour...third grade 2or 3 hours. This is actual"sit down we're doing this" time. There is always learning...counting allowances, reading books, watching science stuff...love netflix, liberties kids and beakmans world! Once you get started it's amazing how much you find yourself teaching with everything you do.

Exactly. I stressed myself out because I would get done with the "formal" work in about 2-3 hours. What I didn't realize and later some of my kids teachers told me, is that they really only teach for about 4.5 hours on an average school day. Take out lunch and playtime out side, then you have to take time out for all the kids to transition for one subject to another, general disruptions and they really don't have the time they need.

You will find that with only 1 right now , especially being so young, it won't take you long at all. You can get supplies at Barnes and Noble also places like Cotsco and Sams have work books. The one thing that is dangerous at least for me, I could have spent like life savings in our Home school bookstore, it was amazing. Stay clear of those for now. lol
 
GiPeople will tell you that she won't be socialized. BULL.
Maybe, maybe not. I used to teach 9th grade, which is a tricky age. I taught quite a few kids who had been in private school or had been homeschooled all their lives, and then had been moved to public school for their high school years.

You may agree or disagree, but many parents see that as the "ideal" year to make a move because EVERYONE is new to the school, so their kid has a good chance of fitting in easily, and many people want the large-school environment, where we offer multiple AP courses, 4 languages, sports, clubs . . . and other opportunities that're difficult to provide on your own. I remember two girls who left their small Christian school and transferred to public school their senior year SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE they wanted to be able to attend prom; I don't think I would've made a move for the sake of one evening. Anyway -- I digress -- but the point is that 9th grade teachers tend to see their share of "newbies" to the public school environment.

Thinking back over the years, it was kind of split 50-50 between those who came in socially ready and those who were just lost in what they saw as a big, unmanageable social system.

Those who fit in well don't really stand out in my mind -- they might've required a bit of time to acclimate to their new environment (as do all 9th graders), but they were fine after a few weeks of learning their way around. Those who didn't, I remember well. Sometimes it's little things like the girl who simply WOULD NOT accept that she couldn't write in her textbooks -- her mom told her to do whatever she pleased, and she paid for the expensive textbooks at the end of the year (great lesson for the kid, huh?). Other times it's big things like the kid who wouldn't talk to other students, even when placed in a group and assigned a specific job for that day's assignment. And I remember the girl who attended ONE CLASS on the first day of school and called her mom in tears saying, "I just can't do this". And I remember one outspoken student who shared her firm opinion that slavery was a fine institution that should be reinstated; she clearly had no idea that she was offending many people in the classroom, nor did she have any sense of self-preservation.

Obviously, I don't know how their parents raised them and what socialization opportunities they had prior to 9th grade, but it's pretty obvious to me that SOME homeschoolers DO miss out on great amounts of social skills. So I wouldn't say, "Oh, this isn't a concern at all. Just blow it off." Instead, I'd say that if you're going to homeschool you need to actively seek out opportunities for your child to be involved in activities with kids their own age.
 
I'll take it a little farther - not only actively seek out opportunities for your kids to be involved in activities with kids their own age, but actively seek out opportunities for kids to be exposed to a wide variety of kids - if they evenutally transition to a public school or a larger college, or a big corporation for work - they are going to need to deal with people from all walks of life. i.e. your church youth group is probably great (mine is), but the last thing I want is my kids thinking everyone is Unitarian! Or even that the thoughts that can be freely expressed in Unitarian Religious Education and Sunday School are polite conversations in the outside world! That would give them such a narrow and frankly odd world view. I wouldn't want them to think our middle class neighborhood is the extent of life - first hand experience of a wide variety of socio economic class is often forced on public school kids.

I'm a huge fan of homeschooling done well, and often wish I had the discipline and patience to do it.
 
Thinking back over the years, it was kind of split 50-50 between those who came in socially ready and those who were just lost in what they saw as a big, unmanageable social system.

Those who fit in well don't really stand out in my mind -- they might've required a bit of time to acclimate to their new environment (as do all 9th graders), but they were fine after a few weeks of learning their way around. Those who didn't, I remember well. Sometimes it's little things like the girl who simply WOULD NOT accept that she couldn't write in her textbooks -- her mom told her to do whatever she pleased, and she paid for the expensive textbooks at the end of the year (great lesson for the kid, huh?). Other times it's big things like the kid who wouldn't talk to other students, even when placed in a group and assigned a specific job for that day's assignment. And I remember the girl who attended ONE CLASS on the first day of school and called her mom in tears saying, "I just can't do this". And I remember one outspoken student who shared her firm opinion that slavery was a fine institution that should be reinstated; she clearly had no idea that she was offending many people in the classroom, nor did she have any sense of self-preservation.

Obviously, I don't know how their parents raised them and what socialization opportunities they had prior to 9th grade, but it's pretty obvious to me that SOME homeschoolers DO miss out on great amounts of social skills. So I wouldn't say, "Oh, this isn't a concern at all. Just blow it off." Instead, I'd say that if you're going to homeschool you need to actively seek out opportunities for your child to be involved in activities with kids their own age.

I will not get into a homeschooling debate :) but...........
I am certain there are similar examples of children who had been in public school their entire school career coming into high school and doing similar things to what you just described.
just because a child is in public school does not mean they have good social skills :)

I think you see both examples of good and not so good socialized kids in any type of school situation.
 
- How/where do you get all your materials? What does it cost?

Cost will vary depending on your choices. Some use mostly the library and art supplies at this age. So it's pretty cheap. Others opt for a full box curriculum which would be more expensive. I would recommend getting a hold of some catalogs to see what you like and fits your style. A good place to start finding info is at the Homeschool Legal Defense Assoc website. (www.hslda.org) They can tell you what you need to do to be in compliance with the laws in your state as well as give you some resources and find some local people or support groups.


- Do you get together with other homeschooling families?

Yes, we do get together with other homeschoolers a few times a year as a group. And we socialize on a smaller scale often. I do have a support group that I attend once a month (parents only). And my kids are involved in our local church as well as a dance class for homeschoolers.


- Do you like it? Do your kids like it? Do you feel they miss out on the social aspect?

My kids love homeschooling. They get to learn at their own speed (whether it is faster or slower than the public school). My kids enjoy being able to pick topics that interest them in the afternoons. Since we have military family, we are able to drop school for a long weekend visit with family that are in town. Plus they get to go to Disney when it is least crowded! ;) But seriously, there are so many benefits that I couldn't list them all here as we often discover new benefits each year.


- Other thoughts/advice?

Taking this year to test the waters is normal and a great idea.
Here are a few of my favorite websites to ask questions and do research:
www.welltrainedmind.com/forums
http://homeschoolreviews.com
http://rainbowresource.com
And there is a homeschool chat thread in the families area of this site!
 
I will not get into a homeschooling debate :) but...........
I am certain there are similar examples of children who had been in public school their entire school career coming into high school and doing similar things to what you just described.
just because a child is in public school does not mean they have good social skills :)

I think you see both examples of good and not so good socialized kids in any type of school situation.

I would have to agree with this. In any group you will find those that do well and those that don't no matter what type of group you look at.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I used to teach 9th grade, which is a tricky age. I taught quite a few kids who had been in private school or had been homeschooled all their lives, and then had been moved to public school for their high school years.

You may agree or disagree, but many parents see that as the "ideal" year to make a move because EVERYONE is new to the school, so their kid has a good chance of fitting in easily, and many people want the large-school environment, where we offer multiple AP courses, 4 languages, sports, clubs . . . and other opportunities that're difficult to provide on your own. I remember two girls who left their small Christian school and transferred to public school their senior year SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE they wanted to be able to attend prom; I don't think I would've made a move for the sake of one evening. Anyway -- I digress -- but the point is that 9th grade teachers tend to see their share of "newbies" to the public school environment.

Thinking back over the years, it was kind of split 50-50 between those who came in socially ready and those who were just lost in what they saw as a big, unmanageable social system.

Those who fit in well don't really stand out in my mind -- they might've required a bit of time to acclimate to their new environment (as do all 9th graders), but they were fine after a few weeks of learning their way around. Those who didn't, I remember well. Sometimes it's little things like the girl who simply WOULD NOT accept that she couldn't write in her textbooks -- her mom told her to do whatever she pleased, and she paid for the expensive textbooks at the end of the year (great lesson for the kid, huh?). Other times it's big things like the kid who wouldn't talk to other students, even when placed in a group and assigned a specific job for that day's assignment. And I remember the girl who attended ONE CLASS on the first day of school and called her mom in tears saying, "I just can't do this". And I remember one outspoken student who shared her firm opinion that slavery was a fine institution that should be reinstated; she clearly had no idea that she was offending many people in the classroom, nor did she have any sense of self-preservation.

Obviously, I don't know how their parents raised them and what socialization opportunities they had prior to 9th grade, but it's pretty obvious to me that SOME homeschoolers DO miss out on great amounts of social skills. So I wouldn't say, "Oh, this isn't a concern at all. Just blow it off." Instead, I'd say that if you're going to homeschool you need to actively seek out opportunities for your child to be involved in activities with kids their own age.



OMG- to your examples. Fine job the parents did. (sarcasm)
I can and do see your point. I think really what I was trying or meant to say was that people will tell you that it WILL be a problem, just as you realize that some do socialize normally, others don't.

I do think that in some cases you have a child that just may be different and that even if not homeschooled, they would still not have the social skills. Others may have social skills if their parents had let them learn by being with others and having them in outside activities. In my case and in a relative's case, ours were so involved in other things before we home schooled that there wasn't a need to worry about socialization. Both of us sent our kids back to school at their request and all have been fine, but as I stated, they were in many activities and had plenty of opportunity to be with others their age.

Also being from FLorida, our beloved Tim Tebow, homeschooled for a good part if not all of his education before college, he fit in just fine. I think it depends on the child and the opportunities given by the parents.

PSA: Gator Hater here, but gotta love Tim, he is a class act.
 
Please join us over on the Family Forum Homeschool thread. I think you will get a lot of helpful advice from those of us who have homeschooled for many years.

Dawn
 
I can't help but jump in here. I can give you some advice because I was home schooled my entire life! PM me if you have any questions. I am 30 now with a little distance between now and the experience. I will never home school my children. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. But please make sure you offer her not only a good education but other opportunities as well (social, athletic, artistic). There is a lot more to school than just what you learn in books, and I had to start learning it all at the age of 20. Its been a hard road to a fully functional adult (I am not there yet). I know that many other kids who graduate from regular schools are not adults at 30 either, but I would just encourage you to give her the opportunities to learn about people, life, etc before releasing her to reality.

As a side note...I was home schooled with a little group of girls in my church (12 of us were friends and all of us were home schooled). Today...only 2 of us are not single mothers. Only one of us has never done drugs. Only 2 of us have graduated from college (I am in medical school now). One of us stars in low rate porn shows and does other fabulous stuff. One of us is a bartender. 5 of us are waitresses. One of us works construction. One of us is a lawyer. One of is in medical school. The rest of us are completely unemployed. This is not meant to offend anyone....some of the best moms are single moms, my best friends are unemployed and waitresses and they are wonderful people. All I am saying is that this isn't something you think of when you picture your own child's future...you want your kids to have choices, and many of my friend's choices dwindled away quickly because they were so innocent they trusted everyone and were taken advantage of.

The statistics from those friends in my life are not good. However, my personal life has worked out great. My older sister's has not. Just try and teach her all you can...not just from books or church, but from common sense...something I still could use a good helping of.
 
Also, there are a LOT more opportunities out there for home-schoolers than were available 20 years ago. Just make sure that you search them out. Home schooling can be a great thing, it just wasn't for me and it definitely wasn't for almost everyone I grew up with. Its up to you whether it is a good experience for your daughter. Don't take it lightly and she will probably be fine either way!
 
I don't homeschool, and I'm not really for or against it. But, I just wanted to say that my DD6 is in kindergarten and I totally can see her blossoming into a little person of her very own. She was delayed and got a lot of help from ages 3 to 5, but now at 6, she's really gathering it all in and learning from all of her experiences. We do homework together quite a bit and I feel like I teach her then and throughout the day, but I'm not sure she'd be where she is now if it was just me and her. She had speech, OT, and social/emotional issues due to being sick as a very young toddler. I'm really proud of how far she's come.

PS-rebster, your post was very informative about your experience. Good luck with your medical degree!
 
I am very sorry that this has been your reality. This is far different than the homeschoolers I currently know. I am sure it depends on many factors and your comment about outside activities is important, but I am a social butterfly myself, so we cannot hide out at home or *I* will go nuts!

Thankfully there are so many homeschool activities in this area that we have to say no to more than we have time to say yes to. My boys golf, play soccer, are heavily involved in scouts, go to co-ops, and attend outside classes. Tomorrow we are attending a play put on by the local children's theatre (most attendees are on a field trip from public schools).

I do have to add though that your reality can be found just as easily in a statistic of 12 public schooled children, it just depends on the group.

Dawn

I can't help but jump in here. I can give you some advice because I was home schooled my entire life! PM me if you have any questions. I am 30 now with a little distance between now and the experience. I will never home school my children. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. But please make sure you offer her not only a good education but other opportunities as well (social, athletic, artistic). There is a lot more to school than just what you learn in books, and I had to start learning it all at the age of 20. Its been a hard road to a fully functional adult (I am not there yet). I know that many other kids who graduate from regular schools are not adults at 30 either, but I would just encourage you to give her the opportunities to learn about people, life, etc before releasing her to reality.

As a side note...I was home schooled with a little group of girls in my church (12 of us were friends and all of us were home schooled). Today...only 2 of us are not single mothers. Only one of us has never done drugs. Only 2 of us have graduated from college (I am in medical school now). One of us stars in low rate porn shows and does other fabulous stuff. One of us is a bartender. 5 of us are waitresses. One of us works construction. One of us is a lawyer. One of is in medical school. The rest of us are completely unemployed. This is not meant to offend anyone....some of the best moms are single moms, my best friends are unemployed and waitresses and they are wonderful people. All I am saying is that this isn't something you think of when you picture your own child's future...you want your kids to have choices, and many of my friend's choices dwindled away quickly because they were so innocent they trusted everyone and were taken advantage of.

The statistics from those friends in my life are not good. However, my personal life has worked out great. My older sister's has not. Just try and teach her all you can...not just from books or church, but from common sense...something I still could use a good helping of.
 















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