OT: ? for those doing AP

Nee Nee and Biddy

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My son is almost seven months old and we've been doing AP since he was born. Breastfeeding on demand, co-sleeping, baby-wearing, the whole nine yards. This seems like the most natural way to parent for my husband and I. However, I am one tired mama. My baby is an "in-arms' child and likes to be with me, my mother or my husband at all times. I don't want to stop AP, but I would like some encouragement from others who are doing it to let me know that it is worth it. I don't know anyone else who does AP. All of my friends believe in CIO and think that I am crazy! Family members have asked when I'm going to wean him and make a lot of negative co-sleeping comments. It's hard at times to defend our position. So, if you do AP, how has it worked out for your family? Please give me some hope that all of this work now will pay off later! Thanks!
 
What is AP stand for?

You can listen to what others say, but you have to do what is right for your family. I nursed my son, pretty much on demand till he was 13 months, then I decided to wean him. I always had comments about when I was going to stop. We co-slept for the first 4 months, but then I wasn't getting any sleep once he got bigger and decided it was time for him to go to his own bed. I needed my sleep too. I wasn't doing anyone any good being grouchy all day and night. He was fine with sleeping in his crib, but would get up 2 times a night. Probably around 9 months we went to CIO for a couple days, just thought he was ready to sleep through the night and so was I. We held my son a lot when he was a newborn and he continued to like to be held as a baby. Now we can't walk three feet away from him with out him crying. I don't know if we held him to much or if it is possible to hold a baby to much.

Sorry I am rambling. I would just say do what you think is right for you guys.
 
Hi There-

I didn't do AP exactly - more of a combo that felt right to me/us. The key is feeling right to you. BF a 7 month old is great! Has he begun eating table food? If not, why not start (provided there is no reason he can't)? Him eating solids will begin to give you a break from nursing. It will also give him some time to sit in his high chair and see the world from a different perspective. Have you been able to get out on your own at all? Would you be willing to? Even an hour to get a manicure does wonders for a new mom. I think co-sleeping is great! I did it when my babies were little (first few months) then again when they were a little older (and not so squirmy :Pinkbounc ).

You ask for hope - here it is! This is temporary. He will not be an "in-arms" child when he is graduating from high school nor will he be co-sleeping or nursing. You are doing the best you can and you know your baby best - you are the expert on him. Is he thriving? Is he happy? Are you happy? If you need a little break don't be afraid to take it. Those little breaks add up to a lot of sanity. You are doing a great job! Give yourself a pat on the back and realize that seven months ago your son couldn't do any of the things he does now - that didn't happen by accident - you are responsible for his great growth and development - GREAT JOB MOM!!!!
 
brat5063 said:
What is AP stand for?

AP stands for attachment parenting. I realized I should have written it out because on these boards it also stands for annual pass! :teeth:

Thanks for the replies. You are right mrsltg, I do need to take some time for myself. Before I was a SAHM I was a social worker and I was always advising people to relax and take time for themselves to avoid burnout. I need to take my own advice! He is a happy baby but I'm not sure that I'm always happy. I guess I'm more concerned about his happiness. Welcome to motherhood, right? :)
 

I also did a form of AP when my 8 year old DD was small. We BF until 1 (she self weaned by the book), did Baby Bjorn everywhere and I co-slept with her for a few months until I was just exhausted ALL OF THE TIME :guilty: I am someone that needs my sleep and I am miserable without it. I put her into her own crib one night and I slept in my own bed and she slept through the night. I realized that I was actually keeping her awake at night by co-sleeping. From that night on she slept through the night and everything was wonderful since I was now rested and could give her my best mommying because I was rested. It was a lot of work... my friends thought that I was nuts to all of the AP things that I did, but she is the most amazing child. She has never had an ear infection ( :thumbsup2 for breastfeeding) and she is very smart which I hope and think is from all of hard work that I did in her first years. Good luck to you and finding a solution that works for both of you :goodvibes
 
There are days when it can be really hard, especially when you are tired. I am really tired too...I haven't slept through the night in over 5 years (since I found out I was pregnant with dd #1 and was up to pee all night :rolleyes: ). It does get better, I promise. My mother was completely opposed to everything I do, and now she has had to eat all the nasty comments when she sees my girls.

Number one nursed until she was 24 months, night nursed until 20 months (we night weaned gently b/c I was pregnant and couldn't take the all night nurse-a-thon anymore). Co-slept until about 2.5. Slept through the night and went to her own room at 3.75. When the full time co-sleeping stopped, we put a mattress in our room and she spent part of the night there, part with us. We moved when she was 3.75 and she moved into her own room in the new house. We talked about it a lot, and she was well prepared and excited. Occasionally she will come in with us, but it is rare. I could not put her down ever as a baby. She napped in my arms until she was 24 months and well on her way to giving up naps-at 28 months we were done with naps. She was so high maintenance and I had horrific PPD; I thought I was going to die. Around a year the PPD lifted, but she was very challenging still.

Number two is still nursing around the clock at 26 months. She does have a long stretch of sleep (5-7 hours) most days, so the night nursing isn't as bad as number one. Still co-sleeping, but she is starting to ask to sleep in Sissy's room, so we are thinking about re-doing the bedroom for Christmas. She was a much more laid back baby but still required much time in arms (although I could put her down to nap).

As your ds grows older and you begin to see the fruit of your AP efforts, all the tired days seem to melt away. They are only young for such a short time. My dds are very independant, confident and eager to learn. I really believe it is b/c of AP.

I am very anti-CIO. I do not want to start a CIO war, so if it works for your family, fine. I still am against it. All babies will sleep in their own time. To tell those who nag at you to do it, there was a Harvard study a few years ago that concluded that CIO causes higher levels of cortisol (stress hormone) in the blood. So CIO babies are more stressed out-logical when you think about crying in the night b/c your needs are not being met. When crying is the only means of communication, and you ignore it in favor of sleep...logical conclusion. Even Ferber, king of CIO, has recanted some of his statements about CIO. If you want to try and teach him to sleep differently, try the No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley. It didn't work for me, but I know several families who were successful with it.

To combat the when are you going to wean comments, tell them that the World Health Organization recommends a minimum of two years breastfeeding. If you don't care about hurting feelings, I would even tell them it is none of their business. My mom would ask me that all the time. She doesn't anymore. I gently told her that that relationship was between me and dd and we would decide when it should be done.

Anti-cosleeping? Tell them that Western Culture is the only one who believes babies should be separated at such a young age. Many cultures sleep with their babies.

My best advice is to find community. Do you go to La Leche League meetings? Most LLL mamas are AP or even super crunchy. Do you have a chapter of API-Attachment Parenting International-near you? If you can't find IRL supporters, try MDC-mothering.com. They even have a finding your tribe section where you can find mamas who live nearby. Surrounding yourself with like minded people will help. They understand.

Try to carve out little blocks of time for yourself. Can your dh take ds and bring him to you only to nurse so that you can get some extra sleep? Can you take a nap with ds? I used to nurse and run out the door to go get a pedicure down the street before they needed to nurse again. Do you have a back carrier? Great way to get some stuff done and still wear your child.

Good luck! Feel free to PM me anytime for support. You are doing a great job mama!
 
Thanks so much for your reply Bird-Mom. That's exactly what I needed to hear...that eventually I will see the fruits of AP. I am also very-anti CIO. My son was very fussy when we came home from the hospital and continued to be for weeks and weeks(and still is at times!) but that is when I felt he needed me most. Babies are completely dependent on us...ignoring them when they are trying to communicate is not a good idea. While I do get many negative comments from family and friends, my mom actually told me once that it's amazing how well I know his signals and his cries. I took this as a compliment. The reason I know him so well is because I listen to him and because I spend every waking (and sleeping) moment with him! :rotfl:
 
a trick to parenting especially if you plan to parent differently than people you know.

Whatch out for what advice you ask for.[/B]

I dont mean here I mean in normal conversation. If you say to your friend I am so sleepy, she thinks goodness just stop that nursing and you will sleep more. etc

Its terrible but the more rose colored glasses spin I put on how I was doing things the less negitive comments I recieved and the fewer negitive seeds were planted.

Being a parent is hard, being a parent to a new baby is hard, being an AP parent is tough as nails!

BUT you will be rewarded in the end and it is all worth it!

you can do it!
julie
 
We're not 100% AP, but we definitely have embrassed many of the AP concepts because they seemed right to us as parents. I didn't even know what AP was until my DD was 5 or 6 months old.

Actually, one of the issues that we're not really on the AP bandwagon about is cosleeping. At night, DD has pretty much started out in her crib from the time she was a month old. When she still nursed in the middle of the night, she'd usually end up in bed with us afterwards, but she also stopped night nursing pretty early (like 4 or 5 months, I think). I think cosleeping is a wonderful thing. There is nothing better than having your family snuggle together, but I also found that we all seemed to sleep better with DD in her crib after a certain point. Is cosleeping something that you are planning to continue for a while? If you are open to starting the transition to your child's own bed, it might help you with your fatigue. (Just want to make it clear...I love cosleeping and am not trying to discourage you, or anyone else from doing so. I'm just throwing out some ideas. :) )

I am also anti-CIO and second the book that Bird-Mom recommended. I know that CIO works for some people, but it just didn't feel right to me. Up until 18 months, my DD nursed to sleep and then I would just slip her in her crib. When she stopped nursing to sleep, we found other ways to help her with the going to sleep transition at night without CIO. At 25 months, she is very good about going to sleep on her own and happily.
 
Just curious, what does CIO stand for?

From what it sounds like, I basically do everything opposite of you so I am guessing that I am CIO??? I bottle feed, feed on a schedule, have my son on solids by 3 months (cereal and now we are introducing fruits/veggies) and hardly every have him in a front carrier. He has been in his own crib since birth. He trully is an easy baby, and sleeping through the night (9 pm to 7 am) since 10 weeks (before that he only got up usually once around 4 am). About the only thing I did on demand is napping, but now that he is at the sitter full time she has him on a nap schedule. As a FT working mom, it works for us. Don't want to start any debate or anything, just wondering what this type of parenting is "officially" called. Gotta love getting a full nights sleep though ;)
 
puffkin said:
Just curious, what does CIO stand for?

just wondering what this type of parenting is "officially" called. Gotta love getting a full nights sleep though ;)

CIO is cry it out, putting your baby in a crib and left to cry till they go to sleep. Lots of names for this, most common I hear is Ferber Parenting as Dr. Ferber is one who promotes (promoted) this technique
 
Are you still napping with your wee one? I would suggest going back and doing this if you are having a hard time with the sleep. Do you side lay nurse at night? Can you nurse while you sleep? At 6 months your babe should have pretty good head control and be able to do the nursing thing without too much help from you try sleeping through it.

what kind of carrier do you have? You may be able to get a different carrier and do your "work" while baby is slung after you nap together

julie
 
CIO=cry it out...very against it myself..
Anyway we practice AP, we have co-slept with all of our children and it has been wonderful. My girls have all slept through the night since about 10 weeks old.
I have a 4 (almost 5), 3, and a month old. My children are very well behaved, very smart and very independant.Being an AP parent is difficult at times, but i feel that it is SO rewarding.
I love babywearing..i have 2 peanut shell slings and 2 mei tei's..back carries are great for doing housework ;)
My 8 mo dd is still nursing on demand as well...i love nursing and i am gong to be so sad when she weans..she will be my last baby :(
 
Oceana said:
CIO is cry it out, putting your baby in a crib and left to cry till they go to sleep. Lots of names for this, most common I hear is Ferber Parenting as Dr. Ferber is one who promotes (promoted) this technique
Or you could also call it LABMAWLIY. Life's A *****, Might As Well Learn It Young. ;)
 
Nee Nee and Biddy said:
My son is almost seven months old and we've been doing AP since he was born. Breastfeeding on demand, co-sleeping, baby-wearing, the whole nine yards. This seems like the most natural way to parent for my husband and I. However, I am one tired mama. My baby is an "in-arms' child and likes to be with me, my mother or my husband at all times. I don't want to stop AP, but I would like some encouragement from others who are doing it to let me know that it is worth it. I don't know anyone else who does AP. All of my friends believe in CIO and think that I am crazy! Family members have asked when I'm going to wean him and make a lot of negative co-sleeping comments. It's hard at times to defend our position. So, if you do AP, how has it worked out for your family? Please give me some hope that all of this work now will pay off later! Thanks!

All I can tell you is that it DOES get a little easier, day by day. We're still not at the end of the tunnel, as our son will only be 2 this fall, but it is definitely getting easier for me to get a break here and there. One thing I can tell you is that my motto is: You can put in the time now, or you can put it in later. Meaning, you can voluntarily provide your son with the attention he needs now, or you will be forced to provide it later when he acts out. That is not to say that you MUST give in to his every demand, but if you honestly feel in your heart of hearts that he NEEDS the level of care you are currently giving him, then stick to your guns, mama! I felt/feel the same way about my son, and it is definitely starting to pay off. He is one intelligent, confident, secure little guy, and no one can ever take that away from him! Good luck to you and I hope you find a balance that works well for your family! :grouphug:
 
DisneyTarheel said:
Or you could also call it LABMAWLIY. Life's A *****, Might As Well Learn It Young. ;)

allow me to quote from JM Berrie' s Peter Pan

"No the pain of this but it's unfairness was what dazed Peter. It made him quite helpless. He could only stare, horrified. Every child is affected thus the first time he is treated unfairly. All he thinks he has a right to when he comes to you to be yours is fairness. After you have been unfair to him he will love you again, but he will nevrt afterwards be quite the same boy. No one ever gets over the first unfairness; no one except Peter."
 
Oceana said:
CIO is cry it out, putting your baby in a crib and left to cry till they go to sleep. Lots of names for this, most common I hear is Ferber Parenting as Dr. Ferber is one who promotes (promoted) this technique

Ah, that is what I was thinking it stood for. Well, I don't do that either....so I guess I am not CIO :goodvibes I will let the baby cry for a minute or two, but if he doesn't self soothe in a few minutes, I will go get him. Honestly though, it rarely happens that he crys like that, and never at night. I definitely don't do AP, so I have no idea what my style is considered :confused3
 
As long as you are happy with your parenting that is all that matters. I do aspects of AP, but my 2 are older now and I got criticised for not Control Crying with my son but you know what I couldn't and I don't see what my parenting has to do with other people. Stand up for what you believe in. People who criticise must be scared of something that they pick on what you are doing to make themselves feel better.
 
I did some AP with my two, breastfed and co-slept with both. I also was against CIO and never did that. I also would recommend the No Cry Sleep Solution book, I thought it was interesting.

I think you need to do what works for you. With dd, we co-slept until she was over 2, then went to the crib mattress on our floor, then a bed. All were very smooth transitions for her. With DS, he actually doesn't mind his crib, so he starts his night there (still, at almost 3) and when he wakes we bring him in our bed. Some nights its at 1am, some not until 5 or 6am. He naps in his crib, my dd would not do that.

It does get better though, my ds was up 5, 6 times a night when I first went back to work, it was brutal!
 
Nee Nee and Biddy said:
Please give me some hope that all of this work now will pay off later! Thanks!

It does!!

Without really knowing it as a complete system at the time, I drifted into a lot of AP as well. - DS spent loads of time in the front carrier, nursed a long time, etc. Now he's 5, very compassionate, concerned when one of his friends is upset, and never had the big problems with sharing I was told to expect with an only child.

I think AP teaches them that the way the world works is that we take care of each other. - "If their cries are met with comfort, they will learn to comfort others."

Keep doing what feels right to you!
 


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