Orlando, pros/cons?

I've read on many sites that there "will be plenty of computer support specialist openings for the next decade". I understand it may be hard, and don't take this the wrong way, but I don't understand exactly what you DO recommend.

Like I said, computer support specialist is very vague and could mean anything from the guy who comes to your desk with a new mouse when yours dies to someone who works on a helpdesk to someone who does high level QA to someone who configures LANS to any number of other things. The best thing to do is to stay put, go to college, get a degree, do an internship to gain experience, then start sending out resumes, and expect it to take months before you get a decent bite. (It took me 11 months to find a job here in the Orlando area that wasn't temp work.)

I feel like every idea I have I keep getting slammed with lots of bad points. EVERY job has bad points - I know that already - so you can spare me those details. How about some GOOD news? Remember, no disrespect meant. :)

Doesn't a college help you find a job?

It will help, but you need the internship to gain the experience for a resume. We are just trying to point out that your aspirations, while well-intentioned--are beyond lofty for a young person, and for every ten people who moves to this area without a solid plan/job offer/money in the bank, probably half or more of them teeter on the fringe of bankruptcy or move back home within the first two years.

Anne
 
Well, if I'm not going to live in Orlando, what are less expensive cities still close to it?

I don't understand why everyone says "do college there (delaware)". TONS of people relocate for college. True most of them live on campus, but just because I want an apartment doesn't mean I should wait a few extra years. I do believe in chasing dreams and this is one I should chase. However I know your point about finding jobs is valid, so as asked, what are some "better" cities around Orlando?

I think I am creating a solid plan and I do and will have money in the bank. Most of my McDonalds paychecks (not every dollar of them of course) go right into the bank. Granted it's not a huge amount, but it's going to leave me a nice chunk of change for when I'm 18, plus I have a college fund which has plenty of dough in it as well (it's got enough for a 4 year or more education, so it would have enough for 2 years and money left over).

Remember my soon to be roomate is also saving up money. My goal is to have about more or less $20k to move with - which I think is an excellent amount of money to move with, btw - and it sounds attainable.
 
Well, if I'm not going to live in Orlando, what are less expensive cities still close to it?

I don't understand why everyone says "do college there (delaware)". TONS of people relocate for college. True most of them live on campus, but just because I want an apartment doesn't mean I should wait a few extra years. I do believe in chasing dreams and this is one I should chase. However I know your point about finding jobs is valid, so as asked, what are some "better" cities around Orlando?

You are putting the cart before the horse. First you need to figure out what you'll be majoring in, then choose a college based on that. Once you've been accepted, you can start looking for housing. It would make no sense to go to UCF and live in Davenport for example. But we could list towns and areas for days and it would be moot until you know where you are going to college. It's a long drive to get from place to place around here, you want to live reasonably close to where you'll be going to school. From my house in an Orlando suburb to UCF is 45 minutes--on a Saturday with no traffic. My next door neighbors daughter goes to UCF and lives on campus, it's just too far to commute.

I think I am creating a solid plan and I do and will have money in the bank. Most of my McDonalds paychecks (not every dollar of them of course) go right into the bank. Granted it's not a huge amount, but it's going to leave me a nice chunk of change for when I'm 18, plus I have a college fund which has plenty of dough in it as well (it's got enough for a 4 year or more education, so it would have enough for 2 years and money left over).

Do you already own a car? That would be a neccessity and will eat up part of that savings.

Remember my soon to be roomate is also saving up money. My goal is to have about more or less $20k to move with - which I think is an excellent amount of money to move with, btw - and it sounds attainable.

It sounds like you're off to a good start, but again, you need to realisitically look at the cost of college or a trade school, as well as hidden costs, like gas and tolls and car maintenance.

Anne
 
Well, if I'm not going to live in Orlando, what are less expensive cities still close to it?

I don't understand why everyone says "do college there (delaware)". TONS of people relocate for college.

When I went to college, which was a long time ago, you had to live in the city where you wanted to go to college for at least a year, to qualify for in-state tuition. The tuition for out of state students was thousands of dollars more per semester. That's why I'd suggest going to school in your current state.

Plus, it sounds like you'd be working like I did when I went to college. It's just easier to already have a job, know your way around, etc and go to college, then have everything be totally new. Kinda like, I can burn my energy trying to find a new job, new apartment, figure out my rush hour commute....or I can already have that nailed down, and save my energy for Accounting class (which still makes me shudder 20 years later!!) know what I mean?
 

Well, if I'm not going to live in Orlando, what are less expensive cities still close to it?

I don't understand why everyone says "do college there (delaware)". TONS of people relocate for college.

When I went to college, which was a long time ago, you had to live in the city where you wanted to go to college for at least a year, to qualify for in-state tuition. The tuition for out of state students was thousands of dollars more per semester. That's why I'd suggest going to school in your current state.

Plus, it sounds like you'd be working like I did when I went to college. It's just easier to already have a job, know your way around, etc and go to college, then have everything be totally new. Kinda like, I can burn my energy trying to find a new job, new apartment, figure out my rush hour commute....or I can already have that nailed down, and save my energy for Accounting class (which still makes me shudder 20 years later!!) know what I mean?
 
I just got a recommendation in a PM for Lakeland, FL. Is that a nice city?

Another place I would like to go possibly is California. I know, ridiculously explensive. I'd never be able to afford it, even with the higher pay right? As long as I can't afford Cali (I'm sure I can't; I'm talking about San Francisco), is Lakeland FL good?
 
Lakeland is ok I think its like 45 minutes to an hour away from Orlando. Its cheaper than Orlando. Florida is still alot cheaper than Cali is.
 
Woah. Why do all the careers I like pay crap? I'm worried I'm going to have to choose something I hate just to make anything more then 22k!


If you don't have a college degree...it is hard to find a job that makes lots of money, unless you own your own business. $7 an hour is pretty good for someone without a degree in a minimum wage world. If you want to make more money in life, you will need a degree. I have a master's degree in counseling....and I started off making $26,000 a year. Now, I have had my job for almost 5 years and now make $38,500. I had to work hard and move my way up to a supervisor position. I have a ton of bills I have to pay (credit cards, school loans, car loan, water, elec, heat, food, gas, etc). I easily pay $1500-$1600 a month and I don't have rent to pay. It takes money to live and you need to make sure you have an education to get a decent job.
 
I can't help with Orlando or working for WDW, but I made a similar move when I was 22 which worked out wonderfully and I agree with the few posters who are encouraging you to follow your dreams while you are young - you don't have much to lose. After I graduated from college I bought a one way ticket from Boston to Edinburgh, Scotland. I had $700 dollars in travellers cheques and a place to live rent free for a couple of months. That was it- I had no plan, no real work experience, no British qualifications, didn't know the system (in terms of getting the equivalent of a social security number so I *could* work). And on top of it, this was 1990 during a dreadful economy for graduates finding work high inflation etc. I remember walking into Barclays Bank to open an account and deposit my $700 and the teller was absolutely incredulous at my move, and tried to convince me that I'd last a month in the UK.

I'd suggest doing as much research as you possibly can on Orlando - you've got loads of time. Keep an eye on who is hiring (outside WDW in case that doesn't work out at first), even to just get a foot into the door, rental prices, local colleges etc. I worked retail for my first few years in Scotland and then I did a 1 year college course to give me a UK qualification - that opened up doors for me. I lived incredibly frugally for the first few years. I pretty much accepted that I was going to be dirt poor for a while. Once I figured out what I wanted to do, everything fell into place, so if you can narrow down what area to do want to study, you'll be several years ahead of me when I made my big move. :) Just keep researching and planning - you'll be fine!
 
But see, a degree doesn't always match up with high salary. My mom has two master's degrees and she was making $28k. Now she has changed jobs and is making a more appopriate $55k. I've read that experience can mean more then a degree.

In any case, for the careers I like, the degree would probably be a "dinky" 2 year one. I hope an associate's degree has SOME credibility anymore...

So, I can make this work in about 2 years if I want to? I can go to college there and still live without being in poverty? Remember, I will have ~$20k saved up.

About the car: I do have one lined up already. It will be a hand me down. But it will be a car, and it's not that old (2003). My dad is giving it to me when I've got a lisence/when he gets a new one, whichever comes first, but it will be before im 18. So the car is not an issue. Even if he doesn't give me one, I never planned to get a new car. I want a used car - probably 10-15k. That would be a huge chunk of savings. But it should not end up being an issue.
 
But see, a degree doesn't always match up with high salary. My mom has two master's degrees and she was making $28k. Now she has changed jobs and is making a more appopriate $55k. I've read that experience can mean more then a degree.

In any case, for the careers I like, the degree would probably be a "dinky" 2 year one. I hope an associate's degree has SOME credibility anymore...

So, I can make this work in about 2 years if I want to? I can go to college there and still live without being in poverty? Remember, I will have ~$20k saved up.

Experience *can* mean more than a degree. . . but it's tough to come by opportunities to gain experience without a degree. And often people who have experience in one thing are stuck there if they get a good paying job because they aren't qualified to jump to other careers. Plus, so many students go to college these days that you may be competing with someone with a degree and experience.

For the careers you're looking at, the ones you've mentioned, a 2 year degree would most likely be fine to get your foot in the door. Obviously if you want to move way up you may eventually have to "upgrade" that degree but there are plenty of ways to do that while staying in your career. You don't have to be a traditional student. Most colleges have departments for nontraditional students and adult learners with classes in the evenings, on weekends, and even online so that you can keep working during the week and take classes here and there until you get the degree.

You might be able to make it work, but you really need to do a LOT more research than just asking what a good area is. You may find a nice, less expensive area but if all the jobs you're interested in/qualified for are on the other side of the Orlando area you may spend more to commute than it would cost to live in the closer more expensive area. You really need to look at all angles.

Also realize that a LOT of people have moved to the Orlando area recently and since there's so much competition for jobs a lot of companies aren't paying nearly as much as they would in other areas. In my own research, there are more than enough people willing to "settle for less" that companies are only offering "less" because they know someone will work for that little. Meanwhile cost of living keeps going up. You have a great head start if you can save $20,000 . . . but if you're only working for $7 an hour, you can easily drain that savings in a year or two just trying to make ends meet. If you're willing to cut "wants" from your budget. . . cell phones, cable, eating out, going out, etc. then you can make things stretch a bit farther. But if you're considering a career with Disney, not trying to burst your bubble, you need to be willing to work a 2nd job if you want to have any kind of financial cushion.
 
I realize California is very very expensive but is that a better option in ANY ways? Are they any pros over Florida as far as wages/jobs?

I pretty much figured I'd need to work 2 jobs starting out. :)
 
I realize California is very very expensive but is that a better option in ANY ways? Are they any pros over Florida as far as wages/jobs?

I pretty much figured I'd need to work 2 jobs starting out. :)
I haven't done any research myself but I was just talking to a woman I work with at my seasonal job. We were talking about the trouble I've been having finding a good job (with 2 degrees) and she said her brother lives in the Bay Area and said it's terrible out there right now. Lots of people out of work, nothing for graduates. He's never seen it like that the whole time he's been living there, and he's been there for many many years.

Granted that's just one person's observation, but something to check into if you're considering it.
 
If you don't have a college degree...it is hard to find a job that makes lots of money, unless you own your own business.

That's totally incorrect. I don't have a degree and I make a lot more than you do, and have no student loans. What I do have is a lot of experience.

I had to work my way up, and it took longer, but in the long run my guess is taht if you take out your student loans, I'll make more than you in our respective lifetimes. It just took me longer to get to that point.

I worked two jobs to make ends meet for many years, and I do have some college as well as two certificates for career programs (think trade school but not blue collar).

Anne
 
Ah. Well, a degree definetly does NOT equal a high salary, as Anne has shown even further.

What are the highest paying jobs for 2 year degrees, in general? I've researched; but I'm just asking about the general Orlando area.
 
That's totally incorrect. I don't have a degree and I make a lot more than you do, and have no student loans. What I do have is a lot of experience.

I had to work my way up, and it took longer, but in the long run my guess is taht if you take out your student loans, I'll make more than you in our respective lifetimes. It just took me longer to get to that point.

I worked two jobs to make ends meet for many years, and I do have some college as well as two certificates for career programs (think trade school but not blue collar).

Anne

Right....I understand...I was talking about not being able to make a lot of money when you first start working...I should have been more specific. If you start off in a job and work your way from the bottom to the top, then you will make money, but it does take a lot of time and effort. I will eventually make more money as well, but not until I have been with my company for many more years or until I start my own outpatient counseling office (crossed fingers).
 


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