Opinions on spanking children?

[aprilgail2]

I agree. I don’t agree with spanking on any level. But there does come a point where it is downright perverse and weird for a daddy to hit his daughter on the buttocks.

that is weird

 

[shortbun]

What happened to the lighthearted bent of this thread? Too bad everyone got sucked in. Calgon, take me away!!!

 

[Hannathy]

Oh for goodness sake they aren't beating severely mentally handicapped child for not reading at a high school level! IMO and many others There is nothing wrong with a swat for a developmentally delayed child for something serious and to get her attention just as you would for a toddler. Some have other opinions of course but they are just opinions don't make them any more right than mine.

If you think a father giving a fully clothed girl a swat on her bottom is perverse I think you are the ones with perverse thoughts not the Father. If that is perverse heaven forbid he actual tickles her! or wrestles with her.

 

[Hannathy]

What happened to the lighthearted bent of this thread? Too bad everyone got sucked in. Calgon, take me away!!!

as far as the lighthearted angle

all I know is what I see when I'm out in public is there are an awful lot of people who could use a good "spanx" and would do them and my eyes a lot of good.

 

[MouseLover]

I think spanking is okay. I was spanked, I'm fine. My daughter was spanked infrequently. As others mentioned, a quick swat on the bottom. Not a beating, not for spilled milk, etc. She rarely needed disciplined at all, but when she did it was generally a timeout. As she got older, grounding her when needed has been the most effective form. (She's 14 now.)

Yes, I know I am now in the minority on this issue and many people disagree and think I am a bad person. They are entitled to their opinion. It doesn't change mine.

We still have corporal punishment at our school. It is used infrequently and only with parental notification. I think that is still fairly common here in the south.

 

[Planogirl]

I think that I won't touch this topic with a ten foot pole. Kudos to those of you brave enough to state your opinions!

 

[shortbun]

I think that I won't touch this topic with a ten foot pole. Kudos to those of you brave enough to state your opinions!

Come on over and party with me. I'm at the 'can't change it, didn't cause it' party. My great grandmother used to say, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." She was right.

 

[klhill]

I was spanked as a kid (even slapped once), I was even spanked in school. Did it harm me? No! Do I have current issues because of it? No! I deserved it each time.I actually use to laugh at them when they spanked me and would only stop laughing when I was getting tired of it. Maybe if they would have spanked me more I wouldn't have been so rotten.
However when I got older and I watched my little nephew get spanked it used to break my heart and I swore that when I had kids I would never spank them. Well...that didn't last, but I am also not saying I do it all the time. I use it as a last resort. I use time outs and other methods. My kids are wonderful and do great in school. They get along with each other and well I am so proud of the wonderful people they are turning into.

I do not believe in slapping even though it happened to me and I espically do not believe in using a belt or limb or anything else to spank with. My temper goes up when I think about this because 3 of my children I had with my first husband but my husband adopted them and then I later found out from my older child that when they use to go over to their biofathers house he would whip them with a belt. If I had known that at the time I probably would have killed him.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

It has been said and studies have shown, that the majority of successful people (in terms of net wealth) were spanked as kids.

I was a good kid, I was spanked a few times, but my brother's much more often. I'm fine, I'm not abusive (neither are my brothers), I don't regress to my past, etc.

 

[Freyja]

It has been said and studies have shown, that the majority of successful people (in terms of net wealth) were spanked as kids.

I was a good kid, I was spanked a few times, but my brother's much more often. I'm fine, I'm not abusive (neither are my brothers), I don't regress to my past, etc.

I don´t measure success in net wealth. Apart from that, I´m not sure if studies done 3 years from now will give you the same results.

 

[bicker]

I don´t measure success in net wealth. Apart from that, I´m not sure if studies done 3 years from now will give you the same results.

Good points: Also, keep in mind that a majority of people can be messed up. Beyond that, one data point does not make a comparison. For jlewisinsyr's point to be even remotely meaningful, it would need to be proven that people who are not spanked do worse.

The real telling metric though is how many people were spanked as a child. About 70% of the folks my age were spanked as a child. So if I am legitimately middle-aged, then if any less than 70% of successful people were spanked as a child, then that would actually mean that spanking stunts success - the opposite of what jlewisinsyr was trying to imply.

 

[Freyja]

Good points: Also, keep in mind that a majority of people can be messed up. Beyond that, one data point does not make a comparison. For jlewisinsyr's point to be even remotely meaningful, it would need to be proven that people who are not spanked do worse.

The real telling metric though is how many people were spanked as a child. About 70% of the folks my age were spanked as a child. So if I am legitimately middle-aged, then if any less than 70% of successful people were spanked as a child, then that would actually mean that spanking stunts success - the opposite of what jlewisinsyr was trying to imply.

 

[FireDancer]

Christ on a pony. Spank your kids if you want, don't if you don't. What you do isn't any of my business or anyone else's.

I couldn't possibly care less if you used a paddle on your kids when they are being bad or if you sit them down and have them paint an impression of how they think their being bad made you feel.

 

[Freyja]

Christ on a pony. Spank your kids if you want, don't if you don't. What you do isn't any of my business or anyone else's.

I couldn't possibly care less if you used a paddle on your kids when they are being bad or if you sit them down and have them paint an impression of how they think their being bad made you feel.

Wow, just wow!
This is why so many children are abused physically, emotionally and sexually. Because other people feel that the well being of other children is none of their business!

 

[jlewisinsyr]

I don´t measure success in net wealth. Apart from that, I´m not sure if studies done 3 years from now will give you the same results.

Unfortunately in this world, money is a big driver/determiner in success. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it is. Regarding 3 years from now, I'm actually afraid of Gen Y entering the workforce in large numbers because we have instilled values like that failure doesn't exist (we're all winners), people should not be mean and we protect people from "bullying". Unfortunately, the real world is not like that, people need to learn to fight back, they need to learn the failure does happen.

Good points: Also, keep in mind that a majority of people can be messed up. Beyond that, one data point does not make a comparison. For jlewisinsyr's point to be even remotely meaningful, it would need to be proven that people who are not spanked do worse.

Sorry, I should have expanded, the study compared those who were and were not spanked and found those who were spanked were more successful (the metric was net worth and some other metrics - but I don't recall all the details) then those who were not (statistically speaking).

I found the study interesting, but I also admit there are a million and one other variables that make a person successful or not, but it was an interesting study to say the least.

The real telling metric though is how many people were spanked as a child. About 70% of the folks my age were spanked as a child. So if I am legitimately middle-aged, then if any less than 70% of successful people were spanked as a child, then that would actually mean that spanking stunts success - the opposite of what jlewisinsyr was trying to imply.

Using this logic, the statistical relationship would be that if 70% were and 30% were not spanked, success should/would be within a statistical variance of these as well (assuming the size of the study was large enough). I'll have to go back and find the study and read it again to see how they developed the base and how the full study was performed.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

Wow, just wow!
This is why so many children are abused physically, emotionally and sexually. Because other people feel that the well being of other children is none of their business!

Abuse is very different from discouraging negative behavior through an appropriate level of spanking. I think FireDancer would be against abuse and would step in, but to tell someone that they cannot spank for bad behavior is not his place.

 

[FireDancer]

Abuse is very different from discouraging negative behavior through an appropriate level of spanking. I think FireDancer would be against abuse and would step in, but to tell someone that they cannot spank for bad behavior is not his place.

Ding ding ding. Tell him what he's won.

Wow, just wow!
This is why so many children are abused physically, emotionally and sexually. Because other people feel that the well being of other children is none of their business!

Bull. I was spanked with a paddle and belt from time to time. I was also slapped in the face for talking back and got the wooden spoon on occasion. I deserved it every time and at no point in my childhood was I ever abused in any way. It wasn't like they broke the paddle over my head because I forgot to flush the toilet or something like that.

 

[Freyja]

Abuse is very different from discouraging negative behavior through an appropriate level of spanking. I think FireDancer would be against abuse and would step in, but to tell someone that they cannot spank for bad behavior is not his place.

First of all I disagree that abuse is different from spanking. There are so many other un-violent ways to discourage negative behavior. So how much can a parent hit their child with a paddle before you feel its no longer an "appropriate level of spanking"?

 

[FireDancer]

First of all I disagree that abuse is different from spanking. There are so many other un-violent ways to discourage negative behavior. So how much can a parent hit their child with a paddle before you feel its no longer an "appropriate level of spanking"?

You can believe that all you want and raise your kids as you see fit. If another parent doesn't see spanking as abuse that is none of your business.

Not everyone has to do it your way.

 

[Freyja]

Ding ding ding. Tell him what he's won.



Bull. I was spanked with a paddle and belt from time to time. I was also slapped in the face for talking back and got the wooden spoon on occasion. I deserved it every time and at no point in my childhood was I ever abused in any way. It wasn't like they broke the paddle over my head because I forgot to flush the toilet or something like that.

I could not disagree with you more. I have no doubt that you have turned out to be a good person (I can read that from these boards). But in MY OPINION you were abused!