Opening SO mail...Katerkat hit a nerve with me...

CALIFLADY

<font color=purple>The Tag Fairy is jealous of you
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Okay, I've got to purge. And I do this here because it's WDW-related, too.

When I was married in the late 90's, my now-ex was always incredibly jealous of my independence and ability to do what I wanted to do, especially if he didn't want to do something, and I'd go ahead and do it. For instance, he was livid when I decided to go on a 2-week mission trip to Costa Rica without him. Of course, he would never have dreamed of going to "such a primitive third world nation". Haaa! So I went by myself (with a group, of course). He didn't talk to me for a week before I left, he didn't call me while I was there, he wouldn't come pick me up when I got back. What a jerk.

Anyhow, it became pretty obvious that he wouldn't ever go visit my family, either (he hadn't even met half of them). I was obligated to go to visit his family every time he went, but he never reciprocated. I had to go to my Grandmother's funeral alone because he couldn't be bothered with my family! So, I decided to go visit with them myself. I booked a trip to fly out to see my folks, and I booked a trip (10 months out) to take my then 12 and 14 yo niece and nephew to WDW for the trip of their lives. My ex didn't even care to meet them. Since I had such a bad "reception" when he knew about the Costa Rica trip, I decided to not tell him about these planned trips until very near departure, so I wouldn't have to endure his wrath. Mind you, he had already told me he would never go on such trips with me, so what was the point of filling him in and dealing with his pity party for months?

The yellow ressie envelope came from WDW on the day he picked up the mail. I know this because I found it ripped and shredded in the outside garbage can two days laters. It was addressed to me, not him, or Mr. and Mrs. Just me. Now I was livid! How could someone just destroy and throw away someone else's mail? I confronted him about it and he gave me this line about how he thought it was junk mail addressed to him. Yeah, right.

Long story made short, when I finally left him for good six weeks later, he admitted to me that he ripped up the WDW ressie notice because he knew what it was and he just knew I was having an affair. I told him had he opened it, he would have seen the ressie was for one adult and two children. Not two adults. No affair! He also accused me of having my calendar blocked at work for a week because I was going to rendesvous with my "affair guy". Haa! This was the week I had blocked to go see my parents! (We worked together...that's how he saw my calendar). He called my parent's house that entire week while I was visiting up there to beg for me to come back to him. He only talked to my Dad (I wouldn't get on the phone) and wanted to know if it would be okay if he came up to be with me. Amazing, huh? It's okay to visit my folks when we're on the skids, but unacceptable when I'm truly your wife.

Opening other people's mail is a privacy thing. It's not a secrecy thing. It's a privacy thing. There's a big difference. My parents taught me about respecting other people and their things, and to respect their privacy. To this day, my Dad still doesn't tell me who he votes for. He says it's a privacy thing, and I can respect that. We can talk politics all day, but who we voted for never comes up.

My niece, nephew, and I had a great time in the spring of 2001 in WDW (that's how I found this board). I had an ex by then and was/am much happier. He'd die if he knew I was living and working in Japan now! Much too independent for his liking.

Anyhow, Katerkat's thread just reminded me of how this act of opening, in my case WDW ressie, mail was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back in my not-so-stable-marriage. I wouldn't open anyone else's mail, spouse or not. It's a privacy thing to me.

Okay, I feel better now...thanks.
 
Califlady, Glad your story had a happy ending!:D :D :D

TC:cool:
 
For us, it's not a matter of trust, it's a matter than if I didn't open all of our mail, my DH wouldn't open his. Anything that appears to be personal (birthday cards, etc.) I don't open. Nor do I open anything that appears to be work-related... I don't care about seeing his customer's business.

I respect him enough to leave his cigar catalogs for him, even though I don't agree with that "hobby."

Sounds like your ex had much bigger issues than just opening your mail. Sounds like you're much better off without the likes of him. He sounds like he was a real party-pooper, and you sound adventurous and fun.
 
Wow Cali glad you got out of that. The whole thing just sounds awful. I guess the mail thing just depends on each individual situation. Here its no biggie, but I can see how it was in your household.
 

Califlady, sounds like you're happy now, and truly better off without him.

In my particular situation, My DH wants me to open all the mail, including his. If he didn't want me to open it, and sort it & throw away the junk and neatly stack the stuff that he needs to attend to, I'd be perfectly fine with that too! For us, it's just one of those little things that we do out of love of each other....like buying a certain brand of something at the grocery store, because he likes it, and I don't have a preference. Or visa versa....

If (and this has never happened in 10+ years of marriage) he got an envelope that was marked PERSONAL & CONFIDENTIAL, I would not open it, but would put it directly in his in-box.

I'm sure I'd ask him what it was, though....my curiosity would be killing me! ;) ;) ;)
 
Yah, mail opening wasn't his biggest issue. If I had a bad relationship with my DH, then I definately would NOT want him opening my mail.


I dunno, we always open each other's mail. Sometimes I leave stuff that looks "good" for him to open so he can enjoy it.

I guess we don't really have "privacy" from each other. It never occured to me to be secretive. I know all his passwords, accounts, etc. It just seem like the norm to me. I totally trust him with anything of mine.
 
wow I think thats really sad! he obviously had more issues than just a mail issue.

I, too, sort all of our mail. DH doesnt care about most of the magazines that come in so I put those away, he wants the bills in the office so he can pay them, and he wants to read his personal or work mail ( which I dont open just cause I dont care LOL ) in here as well.

It has never been an issue with us, whoever gets it opens it unless its personal.

Weve just never really even talked about it... just happens lol.
 
Why would I want to open the bills?!! LOL!

Just yesterday he got two letters from his credit union regarding the balance on his accounts. Did I open them, No.

He does not open mine either. If either one of us opened the others mail, big deal...we would not fly off the handle.

I am so glad you got out of that situation and are living a wonderful life in Japan. Good for you!

Lisa
 


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