One day during the busiest time of the year

sam_gordon

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There is no good way to do this...

My family will be in Orlando with a free day on Friday, Dec. 28. DS and I are Harry Potter fans. DW, and 2x DD are familiar with the story from watching the movies. DW & I haven't been to Universal is probably 20 years.

Looking at park tickets and (maybe) Express passes, but that would be ~$300pp for five of us (or am I looking at something wrong?). We are NOT staying at Universal.

What park do you recommend? I'm guessing Express is almost a "must do" at that time of year.

Any other tips or suggestions?

TIA
 
Book a premier hotel

Unlimited free ep for all in your room (5) for rides and shows in the parks

Do the math and see which comes out best financially

December 28 will have crowds in the park

You still will have some wait times for rides but nothing like those in the regular lines

If your plans are etched in stone not to stay onsite, get to the parking garage early to prevent a long wait to park your car

Be at the entrance gate up to one hour before park opens
You want to be as close up to the entrance as possible

Hotel guests will be allowed to be in one of the parks an hour early
Hotel perk

Once in the park, check the wait lines on the app or on the signs inside the park
Work with it the best you can to chose which ride lines work best for you
 
DS is playing in a soccer tournament at WDW, and we've booked a VRBO in Emerald Isle for the week.

I just priced out a one night stay at Cabana Bay with tickets & EP ($2180) vs. just park tickets with EP ($1352). That's a big difference.
 
You don't want to book cabana bay, that doesn't include express pass. The three hotels that include express passes are Royal Pacific Resort, Hard Rock Hotel, and Portofino Bay. Try looking at the prices of one night at those hotels added to your tickets instead of buying the express pass separately and see which works out better.
 

Also you asked which park we recommend, I would recommend both parks with the park to park ticket, at least for the HP fans. You cannot ride the Hogwarts express unless you have park to park tickets and that train is not to be missed, it isn't just a transport between parks, it is a themed ride all by itself. Also the two main harry potter rides are in the separate parks and they are both incredibly awesome IMO, so you'll need to go to both parks to ride the two main rides. (and be sure to ride the Hogwarts express both ways, it is different in each direction).
 
Your cheapest option will be royal pacific checking in on the morning of 12/28 for $479, you don't have to actually stay in the hotel, just start your morning there by checking in and picking up your express passes then take the boat to the park (or walk). The hotels have their own security lines and you'll make up the time you are spending getting your passes at the hotel just by getting to go through the much, much shorter security line from the hotel instead of the one in the parking garage. If you have a car to park you can park it at the hotel and I believe it is the same price there as at the parking garage.

I haven't looked at the price of express passes for that day but if you are getting 5 of them the hotel room will definitely be cheaper. You'll still have to buy your park tickets, but the hotel room that includes express passes for all of you will be your best way to beat the crowds and lines. I would book that super fast though, once they sell out of regular rooms you'll have to pay for a suite to get the express pass and that will not save you money.

Also for park tickets look at Undercover Tourist website, I've used them many times and they are great. They mail you actual tickets. If you are comparing prices, make sure you are looking at the last page on the universal website, universal doesn't add in tax until the very last page but undercover tourist is including your tax and shipping all up front.
 
Your cheapest option will be royal pacific checking in on the morning of 12/28 for $479, you don't have to actually stay in the hotel
Where are you seeing that price? I get $514/night plus a fee for a rollaway bed.

ETA: What's the cancellation policy? I looked at the 26th is also an open day for us, but I don't know what time we play on the 27th or 29th, and won't know until about two weeks out. If we have an early game on the 29th, I'd want to go to Universal on the 26th. If we have an early game on the 27th, we'll go on the 28th.

Not confusing at all. :P
 
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https://www.loewshotels.com/reserva..._code/APH/rate_type/PROMO/adults/2/children/2

I'm not sure why it's charging you for a rollaway bed, you should be able to check out without that. I wouldn't add the rollaway bed unless you are actually planning on staying in the room and want it.

You should be good, they let you cancel with a full refund up to 6 days before your reservation. So if you wanted to you can book the 26th and the 28th, then cancel whichever you one you don't want.
 
another thing to know is that the room gives you express pass for everyone in the room on the day of check in and the day of check out, so if you end up deciding you have time for more than one day and buy two day park tickets you could go twice.
 
With taxes and fees added the room comes out to cost 538. Buying 5 express passes on the 26th costs 905. Like I said before, you only have to go to the check in desk, you never even have to set foot in the room.
 
With taxes and fees added the room comes out to cost 538. Buying 5 express passes on the 26th costs 905. Like I said before, you only have to go to the check in desk, you never even have to set foot in the room.
Thank you for the help. Now to see if we can fit another $1500 into the budget. :P
 
I haven't gone the week between Christmas and New Year's, but I have gone a few days before Christmas. Once was without Express and once was with. The thing to remember about Universal, is that even with the Express queue, their lines still move, and a lot of their attractions are high capacity. Which makes standing in a longer line a less painful experience than it is in WDW these days. And if this is your first visit to the WWoHP you really aren't going to mind a 30-45 minute wait at Forbidden Journey and Gringotts. Especially, FJ when each of the rooms has the character's dialog running, and you're going to want to listen to all of it, and look at all the details.

So shockingly, my recommendations are, don't worry about Express:

1. Make sure you are at the gate, ready to go before the park opens at 8AM. US side, they let you into the front area, and then usually remove the barrier about 7:50 and we beeline to Minions. From our experience, the first 2 hours are manageable. We tend to hit non-HP rides first, and then go into a Harry Potter area after the first "wave" has hit. Usually we do, Minions, Transformers, Mummy and now Fallon before heading to HP. IOA side we do Spiderman and Kong. Sometimes we start with Hulk, but we've reached the age where we don't always have to do the coasters. Obviously, you can't start out at both parks but Kong and Minions are the two rides where you can get bogged down in an interminable wait. So pick which ride sounds most interesting to you.

2. For non-HP attractions: Spiderman, Mummy and Men In Black have single rider lines. FJ and Gringott's do too. Good for re-rides, but still do the queues once.

3. If you can stay late, late afternoon and evening hours the lines drop off. Use the busy part of the day to watch the HP entertainment, play with the wands, tour the shops, etc. Keep an eye on the app, to look for lulls in wait times.

4. Fallon and Fast & Furious have a virtual queue and you can reserve a time via the Universal App on your smart phone.

5. Butterbeer is available in the HP restaurants, you don't have to stand in the long lines at the wagons. We usually go in the Hogs Head in Hogsmeade and the Fountain of Fair Fortune in Diagon Alley.

The key is to know what you are getting into. Have a plan of what you want to accomplish. Don't show up at noon, and then get in the first line you see and then spend a half an hour trying to figure out what the next thing you want to do is, lazily shop, and eat. The "old-fashioned" way of touring still works if the park is mindful of its operations, and I have found that Universal is. Watch the TM's at the load and unload, they are moving to get cars dispatched.
 
I haven't gone the week between Christmas and New Year's, but I have gone a few days before Christmas. Once was without Express and once was with. The thing to remember about Universal, is that even with the Express queue, their lines still move, and a lot of their attractions are high capacity. Which makes standing in a longer line a less painful experience than it is in WDW these days. And if this is your first visit to the WWoHP you really aren't going to mind a 30-45 minute wait at Forbidden Journey and Gringotts. Especially, FJ when each of the rooms has the character's dialog running, and you're going to want to listen to all of it, and look at all the details.

So shockingly, my recommendations are, don't worry about Express:

1. Make sure you are at the gate, ready to go before the park opens at 8AM. US side, they let you into the front area, and then usually remove the barrier about 7:50 and we beeline to Minions. From our experience, the first 2 hours are manageable. We tend to hit non-HP rides first, and then go into a Harry Potter area after the first "wave" has hit. Usually we do, Minions, Transformers, Mummy and now Fallon before heading to HP. IOA side we do Spiderman and Kong. Sometimes we start with Hulk, but we've reached the age where we don't always have to do the coasters. Obviously, you can't start out at both parks but Kong and Minions are the two rides where you can get bogged down in an interminable wait. So pick which ride sounds most interesting to you.

2. For non-HP attractions: Spiderman, Mummy and Men In Black have single rider lines. FJ and Gringott's do too. Good for re-rides, but still do the queues once.

3. If you can stay late, late afternoon and evening hours the lines drop off. Use the busy part of the day to watch the HP entertainment, play with the wands, tour the shops, etc. Keep an eye on the app, to look for lulls in wait times.

4. Fallon and Fast & Furious have a virtual queue and you can reserve a time via the Universal App on your smart phone.

5. Butterbeer is available in the HP restaurants, you don't have to stand in the long lines at the wagons. We usually go in the Hogs Head in Hogsmeade and the Fountain of Fair Fortune in Diagon Alley.

The key is to know what you are getting into. Have a plan of what you want to accomplish. Don't show up at noon, and then get in the first line you see and then spend a half an hour trying to figure out what the next thing you want to do is, lazily shop, and eat. The "old-fashioned" way of touring still works if the park is mindful of its operations, and I have found that Universal is. Watch the TM's at the load and unload, they are moving to get cars dispatched.

hopemax - interesting recommendations...interested in your thoughts on other dates if you don't mind! We are going during Thanksgiving week, have 3 days (2 parks) at Universal, Nov 21, 22, 23. First time visitors (multiple visits to Disney and doing a split trip this time) staying offsite. I was debating on the express pass. If I do get it I would get a room reservation at Royal Pacific and getting there early for check in so that we could get express pass for 2 of the days there. Do you think this is necessary to get the express pass during this time or will we be ok if we have a decent plan and get to the parks at open time?
 
I don't think you can ge
hopemax - interesting recommendations...interested in your thoughts on other dates if you don't mind! We are going during Thanksgiving week, have 3 days (2 parks) at Universal, Nov 21, 22, 23. First time visitors (multiple visits to Disney and doing a split trip this time) staying offsite. I was debating on the express pass. If I do get it I would get a room reservation at Royal Pacific and getting there early for check in so that we could get express pass for 2 of the days there. Do you think this is necessary to get the express pass during this time or will we be ok if we have a decent plan and get to the parks at open time?

I don't think you can get a room at RPR at this late date.

You will need to go early and use single rider lines when available.

With 3 days you should get all of it done at least once even at that time of year.

I would get there early and start in the park that doesn't have early entry because whichever park (I think it is IOA for Nov) will already have a lot of people in it.
 
To the OP. You only have one day so if you are wanting to do everything or most everything, you will need the express pass.

Book a room at royal pacific NOW for your possible dates. You will need to pay a deposit of one night when you book. Then when you find out the actual date, cancel the room you do not need.

You can book the room as a throw away room, one you do not actually stay in for much less than express passes will cost as a stand alone.

Just go get your room keys first thing in the morning. That is your express pass for the day.

Buy your tickets ahead of time where ever you want. You will save a little from one of the discount tickets outfits. If you buy at universal when you get there, they will be $20 higher than they will be before you get there.

Do not book a package deal. Buy every component separately. It is kind of like buying a value meal and then figuring out the value meal is higher priced than just buying things separately.

You can check with the organization holding the games. Sometimes they get discounts for the players. There will be no discount on the express pass.

Forgot to add, there are no discounts on one day tickets. I would buy straight from the universal site.
 
You can check with the organization holding the games. Sometimes they get discounts for the players.
There are discounts for WDW (actually pretty decent even for one day tix), but not Universal. :P

Thanks for all the suggestions.
 












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