Once Upon A Time Season 4 "Let's Hope You Didn't Bring Anything ELSA Back"

[luvsJack]

Was he in Wonderland? I only saw a few of the episodes....I was wondering if I should know who he is. But I like him-he's fun

I'm liking the episodes too (despite my dislike for you know who...). They finally drew me into an Emma love story...I never really felt invested in her with Hook or Neal before, though I leaned toward Neal. Last time I was sucked into a love story was Snow and Charming in season 1! So that makes me happy!
I also like that Henry's being sneaky and involved again-he didn't have much going for him for a while.

Yes, he is the Knave of Hearts. He was once with Robin Hood's Merry Men--not sure why or how he left them. And he was engaged to Anastasia. They ended up in Wonderland and she became the Red Queen. He helped Alice find the Genie.

 

[StirlingSilver83]

Yes, he is the Knave of Hearts. He was once with Robin Hood's Merry Men--not sure why or how he left them. And he was engaged to Anastasia. They ended up in Wonderland and she became the Red Queen. He helped Alice find the Genie.

Ok so I never watched the wonderland spin off...when u say he was engaged to Anastasia do u mean the evil step sister from Cinderella? Super confused how all these characters just jump from different stories lol. Like "the dark one" lol he started off rumblestiltskins then he was the beast, then he was Peter pans son, and now after last nights episode he was also the croc from Peter Pan lol. With him portraying so many of the bad guys who needs other villians lol. You really need to keep up with the story or u just get majorly confused lol.

 

[keahgirl8]

Rumple has actually been the crocodile since Hook was introduced, since he is the one who took his hand. You do have to watch this show from the beginning, or you won't have any idea what is happening! Sometimes I am tempted to go back and watch from the beginning, in case I forgot something.

 

[Funfire240]

I thought last nights episode was very interesting! But it still left so many questions unanswered lol...like how did rumble get the box back from Anna and who the heck is the sorcerer. The magic broom from Fantasia was very interesting lol. Thought maybe sorcerer mickey lol but then y the heck would they put mickey in the show lol. And the whole thing with hooks hand was crazy lol...the previews for next week just look like a Halloween type special so who knows if it will be a continuation from last night. Anyways I thought it was a good episode, just left me with more questions than answers

He found the box inside the house that Belle found for them to spend their honeymoon at.

 

[CourtasanSatine]

Henry and his code names for things make me giggle.

 

[lizabu]

Ok so I never watched the wonderland spin off...when u say he was engaged to Anastasia do u mean the evil step sister from Cinderella? Super confused how all these characters just jump from different stories lol. Like "the dark one" lol he started off rumblestiltskins then he was the beast, then he was Peter pans son, and now after last nights episode he was also the croc from Peter Pan lol. With him portraying so many of the bad guys who needs other villians lol. You really need to keep up with the story or u just get majorly confused lol.

In the Wonderland spin off the knave was madly in love with Anastasia. A pretty blonde who eventually broke his heart and chose fortune over love and married the king of hearts making her the queen of hearts. She learned magic and became bad. She always had a soft spot for knave because he was her one true love but she loved the power and fortune more. I suspect we may see her one day too. Knave is certainly still thinking about her if he tore her picture out of the book and put it in his pocket.

 

[lizabu]

He found the box inside the house that Belle found for them to spend their honeymoon at.

I'm wondering if the house could be Anna's house. Belle said no one has claimed it yet but maybe for some reason Anna can't claim her house. But the sorcerors box was there and so far she is the last person we know who had it in her possession.

 

[luvsJack]

Ok so I never watched the wonderland spin off...when u say he was engaged to Anastasia do u mean the evil step sister from Cinderella? Super confused how all these characters just jump from different stories lol. Like "the dark one" lol he started off rumblestiltskins then he was the beast, then he was Peter pans son, and now after last nights episode he was also the croc from Peter Pan lol. With him portraying so many of the bad guys who needs other villians lol. You really need to keep up with the story or u just get majorly confused lol.

I think it was Cinderella's step-sister but I am not 100% on that. I think I remember an episode when she talked about having everything her stepsister had. Wonderland was sort of confusing in that it didn't explain how everyone got there and what their story was like OUAT does.

Rumple does sort of cover them all. Hook has always called him the crocodile. And when it first shows him and Belle in the castle where he lived in the Enchanted Forrest, you can see the real Beast's head on display soooo, I am guessing he got rid of the Beast and took his castle?? It never really says.

I agree on the going back and watching from the beginning. We have all 3 seasons on DVD and have gone back and watched all of them a couple of times to recheck on what we think we know!

 

[lizabu]

I think it was Cinderella's step-sister but I am not 100% on that. I think I remember an episode when she talked about having everything her stepsister had. Wonderland was sort of confusing in that it didn't explain how everyone got there and what their story was like OUAT does.

Rumple does sort of cover them all. Hook has always called him the crocodile. And when it first shows him and Belle in the castle where he lived in the Enchanted Forrest, you can see the real Beast's head on display soooo, I am guessing he got rid of the Beast and took his castle?? It never really says.

I agree on the going back and watching from the beginning. We have all 3 seasons on DVD and have gone back and watched all of them a couple of times to recheck on what we think we know!

No...it's only a coincidence that her name is Anastasia. She was a girl who's mother was pushing her to marry a wealthy man but her heart belonged to the knave (his real name escapes me at the moment). They decided to run away together. They did some magic and opened a porthole and jumped in and ended up in wonderland.

Rumple didn't take the beasts castle. He is the beast. He is also the crocodile and he's called the dark one. He takes on many fairytale roles.

 

[luvsJack]

No...it's only a coincidence that her name is Anastasia. She was a girl who's mother was pushing her to marry a wealthy man but her heart belonged to the knave (his real name escapes me at the moment). They decided to run away together. They did some magic and opened a porthole and jumped in and ended up in wonderland.

Rumple didn't take the beasts castle. He is the beast. He is also the crocodile and he's called the dark one. He takes on many fairytale roles.

I don't know, we looked and looked for the answer to that and even the writers never seemed to have said she was or wasn't that Anastasia. And she does mention jealousy of a sister or step sister. The mother's push to marry well would actually fit Lady Tremain pretty well. On at least one fan site she is listed as Anastasia Tremain.

His real name is Will Scarlet. Which was one of Robin Hood's Merry Men in the Robin Hood story. And then he becomes the Knave of Hearts. He also mentions a sister and that she died in a frozen lake---have been wondering if they would connect back to that or not with Elsa and the Snow Queen.

I wasn't sure about Rumple and the castle. Like I said the Beast's head is on display in one scene. I mean I know he is the Beast as for Belle's story, I just knew that the reference to the other Beast was there. And yes, he is the crocodile in that he took Hook's hand. And I know he is the Dark One, of course.

 

[NC State]

I love, love this show. I can't wait for it each Sunday night.

 

[bebelle]

Loved that the apprentice was turned into a MOUSE!

 

[lizabu]

Loved that the apprentice was turned into a MOUSE!

Me too. That might be the closest we get to Mickey...lol

 

[StirlingSilver83]

Me too. That might be the closest we get to Mickey...lol

We need a like button lol...after last night I am still confused as to who the sorcerer is. At first I thought Merlin but after last night with the broom from Fantasia I was like sorcerer mickey? But then I was like y would they put mickey in the show lol. Ugh I wish it could be sunday everyday so we could get some answers. lol

 

[CourtasanSatine]

I feel silly but I'm sure I've seen the Knave's actor before.

 

[superme80]

At least it is keeping me interested. Last season I didn't care! I think we should start a petition to bring back the Hatter/Jefferson! Can't wait to see what happens!

 

[keahgirl8]

I feel silly but I'm sure I've seen the Knave's actor before.

IMDB is your friend.

At least it is keeping me interested. Last season I didn't care! I think we should start a petition to bring back the Hatter/Jefferson! Can't wait to see what happens!

I heard the creators speak in a panel at the D23 Expo last year. They sad the problem is that they get really good actors and then other shows or movies snatch hem up. They want to bring them back, but they can't always.

 

[Diznygrl]

Maybe since Gold is now the sorcerer (since he has the hat) and Henry is his "apprentice", that makes Henry Mickey Mouse!


BTW, I love The Sorcerer's Apprentice sequence in Fantasia just as much as the next person, but putting the walking broom in OUAT just looked silly and out of place. Surely they could have found a more creative way to incorporate the "living" broom rather than having it sprout arms and start casually walking to Yensid's house.

Will was the best character in OUATIW so I'm really glad he's been transplanted to OUAT.

 

[Sehsun]

I thought the little nod to Lady and the Tramp was cute (in the beginning of the scene where Hook and Emma had their date, it showed a close-up of a couple sharing one noodle of spaghetti at the restaurant).

 

[Diznygrl]

^^^The restaurant also had the classic red and white checkerboard tablecloths and candles burning inside chianti bottles, just like the classic Lady and the Tramp scene.