On GMA: Mom Hires Stripper for Son's 16th Birthday

[ashjohnson80]

*note to self* don't get those new pictures developed at Walgreens.....

 

[poohandwendy]

Unless the kids were naked, then no one was doing anything illegal. You can walk into a Porn Store, buy porn DVD's mags and toys for your teens. And its not illegal. No cop is going to come into your house and seize your daughters 'toys'. Imagine if cops arrested 15 year old boys for looking at Porn.

Then, exactly why were the parents arrested? And why aren't kids allowed to frequent strip clubs with a parent? Contributing to the deliquency of minors and involving minors in lewd acts are illegal, that is what they were arrested for. Sure a cop isn't going to come into your home and search for porn. But it is illegal to contribute to the delinquency...this falls under that category, whether you agree with it or not.

 

[transparant]

Then, exactly why were the parents arrested? And why aren't kids allowed to frequent strip clubs with a parent? Contributing to the deliquency of minors and involving minors in lewd acts are illegal, that is what they were arrested for. Sure a cop isn't going to come into your home and search for porn. But it is illegal to contribute to the delinquency...this falls under that category, whether you agree with it or not.

That's exactly right. ITA.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm not sure I understand the moral outrage going on here. Personally, a stripper would be much tamer than what my kid has access to over the internet. (I'm thinking of re-subscribing to Playboy so my kid has more age appropriate porn to sneak a peek at ) Kids are always going to be curious and will find ways to satisfy their curiosity. In this instance, I think it is a case of an unimagin...nevermind, I'm just going to say it...STOOOOOPID parent. But it is her kid and her house.

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I'm not sure what the legal precedence is here.

I tried googling--but it's just one of those topics that I haven't been able to cleverly search without getting a list of sites I certainly want nothing to do with.

So I will just say I agree with poohandwendy & transparant.

 

[pooh6890]

The parents didn't "get it". They would have continued to do the same thing for the 14 year old if they didn't get caught. I still don't see what the problem was here. They informed the parents of the boys what they were doing. All were in agreement that this was ok with them. Although I would not do it, I refuse to be self-righteous and place a moral judgement on them. They are the parents and they can choose how to raise their kids. They were not in the front yard for all to see. They were inside on their private property having a party. They only mistake they made were taking pictures and taking them to Walgreens.

 

[greenyskp]

Then, exactly why were the parents arrested? And why aren't kids allowed to frequent strip clubs with a parent? Contributing to the deliquency of minors and involving minors in lewd acts are illegal, that is what they were arrested for. Sure a cop isn't going to come into your home and search for porn. But it is illegal to contribute to the delinquency...this falls under that category, whether you agree with it or not.

im not condoning it. Just saying as always.... we have freedom in this country. Everyone will buy for their children what they deem appropriate. Its not my place to judge what you or anyone else thinks is right for their children.

It is not 'illegal' to contribute to the delinquincy. (meaning its not stated anywhere that I have seen, thats its illegal to buy pornography for minors. It is only stated that minors can not purchase it. Though it IS illegal to purchase a stripper for your minor) Questionable maybe. Immoral maybe. Obviously CHILDREN should not be exposed to these things. But 16+.... Its just stupid to think your 16 year old has never seen the opposite sex naked, and wasnt attracted to the idea of what all of that is.

You can try to keep your young adults, children, but your fighting a losing battle. Everyone grows up, and the more you shelter your children, the harder it will be when they are faced with situations without you around.

 

[tlgoblue]

The more I consider this the more I come down on the side of this mother put her child and the rest of the party goers in a very awkward situation at the very least. I asked DS14 and he said it seemed like his mother was either enjoying watching him squirm, or she was getting some sort of sick sexual satisfaction out of it. Now, as a parent, it can often be entertaining watching your teen deal with new situations, but the thoughts of his mom getting tittilated by her son's possible arousal smacks of kiddy porn to me. We have laws that protect children right up to the age of consent because they are not mentally nor physically well enough developed to handle certain situations. That is in large part why we don't charge children as adults when they commit crimes. (That is a whole other issue) This mother needs some sort of reprimand, and as far as it not being "illegal to contribute to the delinquency".... where did you get that from? If it wasn't illegal, why was she arrested?

 

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

hmmmm why not just throw a dry party for the same bunch of kids....


this sends an interesting signal, you are basically telling your kids, if you want to do something I don't want you to do, tell me up front and I'll help you do it..

That defeats the purpose... Because well basically because no kids will want to come to a dry party. So they will find another drinking party and drive home drunk.

 

[poohandwendy]

It is not 'illegal' to contribute to the delinquincy. (meaning its not stated anywhere that I have seen, thats its illegal to buy pornography for minors. It is only stated that minors can not purchase it. Though it IS illegal to purchase a stripper for your minor)

It is illegal in Tennessee to contribute to the delinquency of minors by exposing them to pornography. This happened in Tennessee. (I am not posting links because every link I have seen isn't family appropriate for the Dis)

I am not arguing that minors will not expose themselves to porn, that isn't the issue. I never said you condoned it. Just because they 'will' do it, does not mean adults are legally allowed to contribute or provide it for them.

Its not my place to judge what you or anyone else thinks is right for their children.

Mine neither. I am not doing that, I make no mention of my personal opinion. I am talking about the law. It is, however, the right and responsibility of our legal system when a crime is committed against minors.

The deal is, this is a case of a crime being committed. Period.

Our freedom to do ''whatever we want in our own home'' ends when minors are being harmed in the eyes of the law. You (generally speaking, not you specifically) may not agree with that, but these types of laws are made to protect minors.

Fight to change them if you feel they are wrong, but as they stand now...these parents committed a crime.

 

[Aidensmom]

Its just stupid to think your 16 year old has never seen the opposite sex naked

Just want to let my mom know that she was NOT stupid, at 16 I had not seen the opposite sex naked, unless you want to count the pictures of my baby brother in the bathtub.

 

[Aidensmom]

That defeats the purpose... Because well basically because no kids will want to come to a dry party. So they will find another drinking party and drive home drunk.

Again, mom, just to let you know, the parties I went to really were dry.

 

[poohandwendy]

That defeats the purpose... Because well basically because no kids will want to come to a dry party. So they will find another drinking party and drive home drunk.

Oh come on...that is not true. I am not so naive to think that MANY kids do not drink, have sex, try cigarettes etc. But if people think they are making their children safe from alcohol related accidents because they throw a random kegger for them to enjoy...well, they are nuts.

If the kids are 'drinkers', that one party is just a drop in the bucket. They are drinking elsewhere, too. Unless you are willing to throw a drinking party every weekend night and allow them to act however they want to, they will find other places to have the fun they want to have.

Instead of providing alcohol for their kids, parents should make sure their kids know the danger of DYING or being seriously hurt due to alcohol and make sure they know to call home if they need a ride, for any reason. And of course, this type of open dialog about the dangers and what to do shoudl start young, before they start making these sort of decisions.

 

[tlgoblue]

That defeats the purpose... Because well basically because no kids will want to come to a dry party. So they will find another drinking party and drive home drunk.

Well, we all have choices to make. Hopefully yours will make the right one and call for a ride and accept whatever reprimand is handed down. If not, choices lead to consequences...some more severe than others. Yes it is terrible when a child dies or is otherwise impacted for the rest of his/her life because of a bad choice, be it the initial decision to drink or the choice to drive after having imbibed, but knowing several parents of such children, I have never heard one say, "gee, if only I had let him/her drink at home, maybe this wouldn't have happened." Assinine!

Then there is the issue of providing sexual stimulation to a minor. How many kids have actually sought out, much less actually procured said stripper at that tender age? I'm sure parents must think..."gee, I had better get him a stripper, or he'll just go out and get one on his own." Again, assinine.

edited to add
Anyway, judgieng from this particular situation, he's probably already experienced the real deal at 16.

 

[lissawynn]

I guess my son will have to be disappointed when everyone keeps their clothes on for his 16th b-day party!

 

[tlgoblue]

I guess my son will have to be disappointed when everyone keeps their clothes on for his 16th b-day party!

Heck, my son is disappointed already. He said "awe mom! I thought you were asking me if I wanted that for my 16th, not just asking for my opinion." LOL! My mom's husband had his very first stripper (so says he. ) for his 40th, and it was a female impersonator! Very funny! Now that I may consider! JK!

 

[chadfromdallas]

Just want to let my mom know that she was NOT stupid, at 16 I had not seen the opposite sex naked, unless you want to count the pictures of my baby brother in the bathtub.

You never took biology/anatomy in middle school/high school?

 

[tlgoblue]

You never took biology/anatomy in middle school/high school?

Do dead bodies count? Not sure about how the dead stripper industry would fly. I always have to laugh when I pass those lonely road strip clubs that advertise "LIVE" girls.

 

[pooh6890]

How did this post turn into a debate on teenage drinking? They never said one time that alcohol was involved at that party.

 

[wvjules]

what is considered pornography?

 

[MrsToad]

Absolutely the Walgreen's employee would HAVE to report any child pornography to the authorities. But, that is not what was going on here. I would bet the pictures showed the parents and kids, mind you 16 & 17 year olds, hardly kiddie porn. I would be pretty upset if I took some pictures to Walgreens and some employee posed a moral judgement on my pics. (and we have had some wild parties over the years).

I don't think it's fair to put the employee in the position of having to determine in which cases the nudity and "erotic dancing" or other imagery crosses the line. If the employee sees anything that is potentially harmful, I think they must be free to report it and then let the trained professionals investigate. If it is an inocent event, the investigation should prove it. And, even if these were not very young children, pornography is still not legally available to those under 18 and these adults were, in my mind, definately providing the equivalent of pornography to these kids...a suggestive dance is much different, say, than seeing Mom or Dad skinny dipping in their own pool.

On the issue of letting kids conduct otherwise outlawed activities when they are in their own homes and supervised by the adults, I think it is very bad to suggest to our kids that we can break the laws we don't agree with. JMHO.