OKW (extended) vs. SSR vs. AKL

[HallDisney2019]

Good Morning-

If buying resale, would you recommend OKW (extended), SSR, or AKL as the home resort? Looking at this from a cost standpoint and the years left on the deed

We will travel to WDW at least 1-year so renting points does not come into play

 

[The Jackal]

I’ll first say I own at SSR an extended OKW resorts. Bang for the buck in the long haul SSR is cheaper as of right now. Maintenance fees at SSR are lower than AKV and OKW. SSR dues are $6.76 pp, AKV $7.67 pp and OKW $7.84 pp. for a 100 point contract SSR is $100 cheaper than AKV and $108 cheaper than OKW. Maintenance fees change ( go up) every year. Some years certain resorts remain relatively low increases while others increase more. Pay raises for cast members caused large increases the past couple of years at most resorts. SSR expires 3 years before the others. We own at OKW to get 3 bedroom grand villas at 11 months. They are the best value in DVC. The price difference, if it remind the same, for 100 points, can add up. $100 x 34 years is $3,400. Is it worth it?

 

[jwinky]

You will have people supporting every resort.

Here a website that does the cost calculation for you. Looks like SSR wins from cost standpoint and it might be cheaper per point if resales are being accepted in the 90s range.
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resort-to-purchase-spring-2020/
After looking at numbers, you still need to factor in buy where you don't mind staying if you cannot get your choice resort at the 7 month mark. And there's still another laundry list of non-monetary factors to consider which you can find on other postings for those looking into DVC. For example, if you want the 3 GV or studios at OKW, you probably want to own there. If you want the value studio AKL, you probably want to own there. SSR will always have availability after 7 month mark for the standard views so they tend to not have any home advantage at the 11 month mark.

I own at SSR to book at preferred location, access to elevators, large pool areas, and proximity to DS.

 

[Ruttangel]

In this thread the studios of all 3 are the cheapest at various times if the year.
This is when looking at number of points required per stay. So you can’t go wrong with any of those. If you do want rent as a back up then AKL will rent easier.
https://www.disboards.com/threads/e...s-total-cost-per-week-year-remaining.3803924/

 

[Deb & Bill]

Buy the resort you want to stay at. That should be your biggest consideration. All three of these might not be too difficult to book at seven months out many times during the year. Not during early December, but many other times of the year. I've heard others say the BLT is usually a good deal for purchasing as well. BLT Standard is next to impossible to book at seven months out.

 

[CastAStone]

Good Morning-

If buying resale, would you recommend OKW (extended), SSR, or AKL as the home resort? Looking at this from a cost standpoint and the years left on the deed

We will travel to WDW at least 1-year so renting points does not come into play

The three resorts are close enough in payback that you should buy the one you want. Here are the 10 cheapest rooms by my personal calculations, which takes into account the point chart, the dues, and the buy-in, with the latter discounted across the entire life of the contract and further discounted to account for opportunity cost. I also exclude the 2 highest point weeks because there is 0% chance I will ever travel then, but it doesn't make too much difference in the calculation.

 

[HallDisney2019]

The three resorts are close enough in payback that you should buy the one you want. Here are the 10 cheapest rooms by my personal calculations, which takes into account the point chart, the dues, and the buy-in, with the latter discounted across the entire life of the contract and further discounted to account for opportunity cost. I also exclude the 2 highest point weeks because there is 0% chance I will ever travel then, but it doesn't make too much difference in the calculation.
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Do you have any feedback on if you went to a 1-bdrm? My assumption is the list will almost be exactly the same

Thank you

 

[Aussie RJ]

The three resorts are close enough in payback that you should buy the one you want. Here are the 10 cheapest rooms by my personal calculations, which takes into account the point chart, the dues, and the buy-in, with the latter discounted across the entire life of the contract and further discounted to account for opportunity cost. I also exclude the 2 highest point weeks because there is 0% chance I will ever travel then, but it doesn't make too much difference in the calculation.
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And the best room in that list, BWV - standard.

 

[CastAStone]

Do you have any feedback on if you went to a 1-bdrm? My assumption is the list will almost be exactly the same

Thank you

It's pretty similar. You lose Riviera 2 person rooms and add CCV, and a few spots shuffle. I've also included a list of the 10 cheapest 1BR or larger rooms (by my calculations which have my assumptions in them). There's a pretty sizable jump from 3 bus only resorts to the other resorts, even within the top 10.

 

[ldo]

can you plan earlier than 7 months out? does where you stay if you can't switch at 7 months matter? if so, which do you prefer.
For us, the slight increased cost of AKV was worth it over SSR b/c we strongly prefer AKV over SSR to stay. Plus, we have gotten Values at 11 months a number of times. We can usually book OKW at 7 months.

 

[The Jackal]

The three resorts are close enough in payback that you should buy the one you want. Here are the 10 cheapest rooms by my personal calculations, which takes into account the point chart, the dues, and the buy-in, with the latter discounted across the entire life of the contract and further discounted to account for opportunity cost. I also exclude the 2 highest point weeks because there is 0% chance I will ever travel then, but it doesn't make too much difference in the calculation.
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AKV value studios are a great deal, but since there are so few of them, they are usually walked and not there at 11 months. I have seen a couple people saying they are in ROFR in the $80’s for SSR right now. Most seem to be in $90’s. With Disney passing on everything right now prices will probably go down a little more.

 

[CarolynFH]

The three resorts are close enough in payback that you should buy the one you want. Here are the 10 cheapest rooms by my personal calculations, which takes into account the point chart, the dues, and the buy-in, with the latter discounted across the entire life of the contract and further discounted to account for opportunity cost. I also exclude the 2 highest point weeks because there is 0% chance I will ever travel then, but it doesn't make too much difference in the calculation.
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Interesting calculations! Have you calculated the same thing based solely on points chart and dues, for people who bought earlier (so not paying the same buy-in costs you’ve based this chart on)?

 

[CastAStone]

Interesting calculations! Have you calculated the same thing based solely on points chart and dues, for people who bought earlier (so not paying the same buy-in costs you’ve based this chart on)?

Indeed!

Annual Average Dues per Night, Sorted by Price

This is based on the average dues per night one would pay if you had exactly enough points to stay every night in that room style for a year.

Resort	Room Type	View	Average Dues per Room Night
AKV	Deluxe Studio	Value	$ 81.31
SSR	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 98.03
BWV	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 102.95
OKW	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 107.63
AKV	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 111.54
SSR	Deluxe Studio	Preferred	$ 113.17
BLT	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 117.54
BCV	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 122.81
CCV	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 128.74
RVA	Tower	Standard	$ 130.15
BWV	Deluxe Studio	Boardwalk/Pool	$ 130.65
BLT	Deluxe Studio	Lake	$ 133.38
BRV	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 135.34
AKV	Deluxe Studio	Savannah	$ 139.61
VGF	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 141.53
Poly	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 147.43
BLT	Deluxe Studio	MK	$ 161.00
RVA	Deluxe Studio	Standard	$ 161.22
VGF	Deluxe Studio	Lake	$ 165.82
AKV	One-Bedroom	Value	$ 172.53
AKV	Deluxe Studio	Club	$ 174.88
Poly	Deluxe Studio	Lake	$ 175.64
RVA	Deluxe Studio	Preferred	$ 199.56
SSR	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 203.17
BWV	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 208.14
AKV	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 221.86
OKW	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 222.40
BLT	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 227.69
AKV	Two-Bedroom	Value	$ 230.92
SSR	One-Bedroom	Preferred	$ 232.38
BCV	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 247.92
SSR	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 257.37
BLT	One-Bedroom	Lake	$ 257.82
BWV	One-Bedroom	Boardwalk/Pool	$ 261.35
CCV	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 263.55
AKV	One-Bedroom	Savannah	$ 270.46
BRV	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 275.40
BWV	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 286.33
VGF	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 287.18
AKV	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 287.22
OKW	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 301.84
BLT	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 305.37
SSR	Two-Bedroom	Preferred	$ 307.98
BLT	One-Bedroom	MK	$ 310.61
SSR	Treehouse	Standard	$ 322.09
BCV	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 323.95
RVA	One-Bedroom	Standard	$ 334.95
BLT	Two-Bedroom	Lake	$ 336.63
BWV	Two-Bedroom	Boardwalk/Pool	$ 339.52
CCV	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 341.24
VGF	One-Bedroom	Lake	$ 345.66
BRV	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 356.25
AKV	One-Bedroom	Club	$ 361.13
AKV	Two-Bedroom	Savannah	$ 366.47
VGF	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 395.48
BLT	Two-Bedroom	MK	$ 410.55
RVA	One-Bedroom	Preferred	$ 417.41
RVA	Two-Bedroom	Standard	$ 438.74
VGF	Two-Bedroom	Lake	$ 468.28
OKW	Grand Villa	Standard	$ 476.49
AKV	Two-Bedroom	Club	$ 486.58
RVA	Two-Bedroom	Preferred	$ 531.88
SSR	Grand Villa	Standard	$ 565.50
SSR	Grand Villa	Preferred	$ 646.79
AKV	Grand Villa	Standard	$ 669.47
BLT	Grand Villa	Lake	$ 715.67
BWV	Grand Villa	Boardwalk/Pool	$ 725.79
AKV	Grand Villa	Savannah	$ 732.54
CCV	Cabin	Standard	$ 852.11
BLT	Grand Villa	MK	$ 860.94
CCV	Grand Villa	Standard	$ 899.26
VGF	Grand Villa	Lake	$ 948.74
Poly	Bungalow	Lake	$ 998.03
RVA	Grand Villa	Standard	$ 1,088.10

 

[CarolynFH]

Indeed!

Many thanks !

 

[ldo]

I take my capital cost per point/number of years left = annual amortization rate (for me, $2/point), plus annual dues per point X # points needed.
For ex., AKV value studio 9 points in May "costs" me 7.67(9)+2(9)=$87, assuming no resale ever or zero recoupment of capital costs (which is sadly the case for some of my nonDVC timeshares, despite being prime summer beach weeks).