Okay, veterans, help me out, is there a typo on Castaway Cay?

I usually use the civilian code with the following variations: A as in Are, C as in Chris, E as in Eye, G as in Gnome, H as in Hole, K as in Knight, N as in Nose, O as in Opossum, P as in Pheasant, R as in Right, W as in Wrap,

HA! I talk to different people on the phone at some of the police agencies quite a bit, and it is always funny when they try to make up a phonetic alphabet to spell something to me. :)


"My name is spelled N as in nightlight, O as in Other, R as in Ring-a-ling, M as in Marry, A as in Alphabet, N as in New."

Usually with a lot of stammering and thinking up a word that starts with a particular letter.
 
"A as in Are" ???? thats crazy talk. You can use another letter while spelling phonetically

If you read their whole post, you'll find that they are all amusing like that. :)


Mun, I think your H example might have another reason, like how it sounds when you're saying it out loud, but in writing it's funny and matches most of your other examples if you use "H as in Hour". :)
 
Former military also. I'm fairly certain Romero is just a typo. As for Zulu, I have no idea, though I've often wondered where "Bravo Zulu" Navy-speak for "good job" came from. It's often just shortened to "BZ."

I've tried researching Bravo Zulu a couple times without a satisfactory explanation. Maybe I'll have to make up my own scenario a la Whiskey. :thumbsup2 I did come across a bar in Michigan named Bravo Zulu. :drinking1

HA! I talk to different people on the phone at some of the police agencies quite a bit, and it is always funny when they try to make up a phonetic alphabet to spell something to me. :)


"My name is spelled N as in nightlight, O as in Other, R as in Ring-a-ling, M as in Marry, A as in Alphabet, N as in New."

Usually with a lot of stammering and thinking up a word that starts with a particular letter.

:laughing: I've tired that, too, because I'm guessing most people aren't familiar with the phonetic alphabet, and as mentioned, I can't always remember all of them. Funny how all of the sudden you can't think of a single word that begins with K or V or . . .

My husband was a captain in the army and when he spells out our last name he uses male names -- not the beloved phonetic alphabet -- but he says, "S in Sam, T in Tom . . ." I always say "S as in Sam, T as in Tom." ROTC at Ohio State is what got him through college, so I wonder if that's the proper way to "call" a word?
 

I've tried researching Bravo Zulu a couple times without a satisfactory explanation. Maybe I'll have to make up my own scenario a la Whiskey. :thumbsup2 I did come across a bar in Michigan named Bravo Zulu. :drinking1



:laughing: I've tired that, too, because I'm guessing most people aren't familiar with the phonetic alphabet, and as mentioned, I can't always remember all of them. Funny how all of the sudden you can't think of a single word that begins with K or V or . . .

My husband was a captain in the army and when he spells out our last name he uses male names -- not the beloved phonetic alphabet -- but he says, "S in Sam, T in Tom . . ." I always say "S as in Sam, T as in Tom." ROTC at Ohio State is what got him through college, so I wonder if that's the proper way to "call" a word?



Where does the term
"Bravo Zulu" originate?

The term originates from the Allied Signals Book (ATP 1), which in the aggregate is for official use only. Signals are sent as letters and/or numbers, which have meanings by themselves sometimes or in certain combinations. A single table in ATP 1 is called "governing groups," that is, the entire signal that follows the governing group is to be performed according to the "governor." The letter "B" indicates this table, and the second letter (A through Z) gives more specific information. For example, "BA" might mean "You have permission to . . . (do whatever the rest of the flashing light, flag hoist or radio transmission says) "BZ" happens to be the last item in the governing groups table. It means "well done".


My DH tells me *** OVER was a military term long before *** became popular. (hope that is ok to type) :D
 
Where does the term
"Bravo Zulu" originate?

The term originates from the Allied Signals Book (ATP 1), which in the aggregate is for official use only. Signals are sent as letters and/or numbers, which have meanings by themselves sometimes or in certain combinations. A single table in ATP 1 is called "governing groups," that is, the entire signal that follows the governing group is to be performed according to the "governor." The letter "B" indicates this table, and the second letter (A through Z) gives more specific information. For example, "BA" might mean "You have permission to . . . (do whatever the rest of the flashing light, flag hoist or radio transmission says) "BZ" happens to be the last item in the governing groups table. It means "well done".


My DH tells me *** OVER was a military term long before *** became popular. (hope that is ok to type) :D


Exactly. Signal flags have long been used to communicate between ships, even now when they may not be able to use radio or electronic systems. It takes a lot of flags to spell out some messages so combinations of letters and numbers were used to send frequent or common words or phrases to decrease the number of flags and the time to send the message. The ATP 1 was our bible on the bridge in the US Navy and some of us had it some portions pretty much memorized.

*** meant "words to follow" when you were going to spell out something (usually fairly long or complicated spelling or an exact statement).

As for the current military phonetic alphabet, that came about from NATO and the words selected were those thought to be understood, even by those who were not English speakers, and distinct enough that it wouldn't be confused with another letter. I've used it to communicate with a variety for foreign militaries and it works extremely well. I still use it (a lifetime habit is hard to break).
 
WTFO meant something different in the Marine Corps... when the verbal message was confused or not heard correctly and needed a clearer answer. That from my retired Lt.Col DH. He laughed at "words to follow", I then explained it was perhaps about signal flags..:-)
 
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WTFO meant something different in the Marine Corps... when the verbal message was confused or not heard correctly and needed a clearer answer. That from my retired Lt.Col DH. He laughed at "words to follow", I then explained it was perhaps about signal flags..:-)

Oh, I know all too well what WTFO means in today's military. :rotfl: I'm another retired Marine LtCol. Been using it for decades!

I was just passing on that it was, in fact, used for something else (and still is) before what it is commonly used for now.
 
:-)
Oh, I know all too well what WTFO means in today's military. :rotfl: I'm another retired Marine LtCol. Been using it for decades!

I was just passing on that it was, in fact, used for something else (and still is) before what it is commonly used for now.

Semper Fi! DH retired after 32 years in 2004. He misses it, me, I don't miss some of it! I'm retired beach bum..:-)
 
Not a veteran, but I work with Police agencies.

There are two main versions of the phonetic alphabet. Civilian (A lot of Police agencies use this one) and Military. There can be some variation on the names used in the civilian alphabet depending on the area of the country you live in (such as Nancy for N in some areas).

CIVILIAN OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
PHONETIC ALPHABET
A - ADAM
B - BOY
C - CHARLES
D - DAVID
E - EDWARD
F - FRANK
G - GEORGE
H - HENRY
I - IDA
J - JOHN
K - KING
L - LINCOLN
M - MARY
N - NORA
O - OCEAN
P - PAUL
Q - QUEEN
R - ROBERT
S - SAM
T - TOM
U - UNION
V - VICTOR
W - WILLIAM
X - X-RAY
Y - YOUNG
Z - ZEBRA


Military (from Army.com)
Letter Code Word
A - Alfa
B - Bravo
C - Charlie
D - Delta
E - Echo
F - Foxtrot
G - Golf
H - Hotel
I - India
J - Juliet
K - Kilo
L - Lima
M - Mike
N - November
O - Oscar
P - Papa
Q - Quebec
R - Romeo
S - Sierra
T - Tango
U - Uniform
V - Victor
W - Whiskey
X - X-ray
Y - Yankee
Z - Zulu

Police Department here used to use the Civilian Letter word code. They switched to the Military one about 5 years ago. I have no idea why. I've spent 40 hours a week for the past 35 years listening to police and fire scanners at work, so it was a bit jarring.
 
Where does the term
"Bravo Zulu" originate?

The term originates from the Allied Signals Book (ATP 1), which in the aggregate is for official use only. Signals are sent as letters and/or numbers, which have meanings by themselves sometimes or in certain combinations. A single table in ATP 1 is called "governing groups," that is, the entire signal that follows the governing group is to be performed according to the "governor." The letter "B" indicates this table, and the second letter (A through Z) gives more specific information. For example, "BA" might mean "You have permission to . . . (do whatever the rest of the flashing light, flag hoist or radio transmission says) "BZ" happens to be the last item in the governing groups table. It means "well done".

My DH tells me *** OVER was a military term long before *** became popular. (hope that is ok to type) :D

That makes sense, it can't be interpreted literally, just what they decided to use for well done.

Exactly. Signal flags have long been used to communicate between ships, even now when they may not be able to use radio or electronic systems. It takes a lot of flags to spell out some messages so combinations of letters and numbers were used to send frequent or common words or phrases to decrease the number of flags and the time to send the message. The ATP 1 was our bible on the bridge in the US Navy and some of us had it some portions pretty much memorized.

*** meant "words to follow" when you were going to spell out something (usually fairly long or complicated spelling or an exact statement).

As for the current military phonetic alphabet, that came about from NATO and the words selected were those thought to be understood, even by those who were not English speakers, and distinct enough that it wouldn't be confused with another letter. I've used it to communicate with a variety for foreign militaries and it works extremely well. I still use it (a lifetime habit is hard to break).

One of the Navigator's on our last cruise must have had some of the flag codes one day. It was fun to read what some of them meant -- like refueling, stay away, no power, etc.

WTFO meant something different in the Marine Corps... when the verbal message was confused or not heard correctly and needed a clearer answer. That from my retired Lt.Col DH. He laughed at "words to follow", I then explained it was perhaps about signal flags..:-)

The military can be very "educational" can't it?

Then there's FUBAR and SNAFU. We used quite a bit in the Navy circa 1970's. Disclaimer, not PG rated.

I know SNAFU, I'll have to check with my resident expert on FUBAR.
 
FUBAR. I'll give you the last 4 letters, and you can use your imagination on the first 1! ;)

Up Beyond All Recognition
 
FUBAR: "foo" and "bar" are commonly used as variable, function or procedure names when teaching computer programming.

Martin
 

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