Oh, the drama.....

I also am a bit doubtful that a second grade boy was "stalking" your DD, I'm betting there is a whole heck of a lot more to that!

I thought about this entire thread last night and it came to me that it has taken the path of so many I've read in the past. It never fails that a good number of members simply cannot or will not take an OP's post at face value. I've seen it over and over again. A person posts something and before you know it, all sorts of things are read into it. God forbid you post about your kid, because first rattle out of the bag, someone will be certain to point out there's a good chance your kid is lying. Post about your family members and some of the replies will make it clear that the person responding is not really paying attention to your actual OP as to their interpretation of it based on their life and some trauma they've endured.

For crying out loud, mine was a post about some little girl drama. It was no big, fat, hairy deal. Before I knew it, people seemed to have visions of DD and I discussing the matter for hours on end, with me stirring the pot. In reality, she mentioned it (along with other parts of her day) and I was commenting on it HERE, not to her. I did tell her a while back (when discussing something else) that people who have a lot of drama in their lives can be exhausting to be around and that's when SHE made the comment, "That's Hannah!" She made the correlation, not me. So people read a great deal more into my post than was ever there.

Really, I have no reason to get involved in anything. The little girl is not picking on my child. She is picking on a little boy and THAT bothers my DD. She gets upset when DD chooses to go with the picked-on little boy over her, but I think that's a reasonable reaction from DD. Part of my vent was more along the lines of, "If she'd just lay off picking on the boy, they could all three go back to being buddies and things would be so much simpler." I don't think it's getting "involved" to make the observation that in this case, the little girl is cutting off her nose to spite her face because two kids who DID like to spend time with her are now starting to avoid her. Now if I sat around and hashed all this out with DD, that would be gettting involved. But to bring it up on a message board is another matter. Sadly, there are some people who are just itching to assume the worst. Thanks to the ones who actually read the post and took it for what it was.

As for the "stalker" boy. I'll try to make this as plain as I can. He is a seriously disturbed child. He was fixated on my DD. If just DH and I had this opinion, that would have been one thing. But the teachers agreed, the administrators agreed, his parents agreed and his doctors agreed. In the beginning of the year, when he seemed so overly attached to DD, I thought he was just a very shy child who had trouble making friends and that he would eventually come out of his shell. Once his mother explained (because she thought I should know) the extent of his issues, we realized the problem was much bigger than we had thought and that it wasn't just going to "get better." I was not prepared to deal with an issue like this in 2nd grade and neither was anyone else (including his parents and doctors), because let's face it.......How often do you come across a very young child with this level of obsession concerning another child? Without posting the boy's medical records, I don't know how much clearer I can make it for anyone. I could give example after example, but either you take my explanation as the truth or you don't. Simple as that.

As I said, thank your lucky stars YOU haven't had to deal with something like this. I wasn't asking for sympathy, but some comments all but called me a liar. I appreciate that soooooo much. Believe it or not, some kids are emotionally unstable and if one of them chooses to target YOUR child, good luck. You'll need it.
 
It's the length of your posts. If it was just a small vent one would expect only a paragraph, maybe two. And then you'd probably have some posters commiserating with you.

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You put it out there.... don't complain about what you get.
 
I'm sorry this thread kept you up all night. I think you create your own drama. Let it go, seriously.
 
EMOM :grouphug: As far as many of the posts on this thread go they are chasing drama, online:rolleyes1 and yet accusing you of chasing drama! I will keep your daughter's friend in my prayers, and I hope that the girl that is giving him a hard time clams down before you end up with a Mean Girls situation on your hands
 

I thought about this entire thread last night and it came to me that it has taken the path of so many I've read in the past. It never fails that a good number of members simply cannot or will not take an OP's post at face value. I've seen it over and over again. A person posts something and before you know it, all sorts of things are read into it. God forbid you post about your kid, because first rattle out of the bag, someone will be certain to point out there's a good chance your kid is lying. .

Who accused your DD of lying?
 
I find it sad, and a little scary that you are taking such pleasure in something bad happening to a child. Maybe this little girl has emotional issues that you don't know about - you said that she cried when your daughter and Ben didn't sit with her - maybe she has a hard time making friends - maybe they had discussed sitting together, and they your daughter didn't, and she was upset about it. Since your not there, and can't see things yourself, why don't you cut this kid a break, rather than just assuming shes a bad kid. There are always two sides to every story - your daughter is not 100% right, and this other girls is not 100% right - Just a thought.

This doesn't surprise me at all, and it's sad that people would read into it this way. :sad2:
 
I also felt uncomfortable reading the original post. I worry about putting 8 year old children and karma in the same sentence.
 
OK Emom, I am on your side here. I have a friend whose daughter was ABSOLUTELY stalked by a boy in the second grade. If you people don't know, these kids are growing up way too fast. My youngest is in second grade and the things that are talked about are unbelievable. Sexual things. It is disgusting. So I don't doubt for one minute that stalking can't occur in 2nd grade. Also my daughter had a friend like this, they started out as friends and then all of the sudden, she waSn't allowed to play or sit by anyone else. This little girls tried to control everything my daughter did. Thank God they are not in the same class this year. And you know what, If she had gotten into trouble I would have been THRILLED. She was obnoxious. And it turn out everyone else thinks so now as well.
 
OP, I want to say this in a nice way...I think you are a little too over-involved in analyzing the personalities/actions of your dd's classmates. Like describing Ben as "universally liked by all his classmates"...really? How would you even know how he relates to the other kids? :confused3 Also about Ben having to go to the counselor, Hannah getting in trouble, etc. You know an awful lot of details, who said what, who was where, etc.

Now, having said that, I do think this could be understandable because of the extreme situation you had with your dd in second grade. I think you are trying to be hyper-vigilant. However, it seems like your dd is handling things okay so hopefully that will give you confidence that she will be okay.

Good luck!
:)
 
How does a second grader stalk another child? Didn't his mother monitor his phone calls and whereabouts?

Good lord, do I need to post a novel? If the child's own parents and his doctors agreed that he was obsessed/fixated on my DD to the point that nothing/no one else mattered to him, let's just say we all had a problem on our hands. I felt bad for his parents because if I had been in their shoes, I don't know how I would have helped him. Goodness knows they tried, but it seemed to accomplish very little.

Seriously, it doesn't matter how full an explanation I give. Someone would somehow pick it apart.
 
I'm sorry this thread kept you up all night. I think you create your own drama. Let it go, seriously.

ACK! This is exactly what I mean. If you will read my post, I said I thought about this entire thread last night. I did not say I thought about it the entire night. Meaning, I thought about the total thread, or all the posts. I did not say I stayed up all night. I thought about it for a few minutes.

Once again, someone read something into a post that was not written....By transposing a few words, the meaning changed completely and words were put in my mouth that I never said or thought.
 
ACK! This is exactly what I mean. If you will read my post, I said I thought about this entire thread last night. I did not say I thought about it the entire night. Meaning, I thought about the total thread, or all the posts. I did not say I stayed up all night. I thought about it for a few minutes.

Once again, someone read something into a post that was not written....By transposing a few words, the meaning changed completely and words were put in my mouth that I never said or thought.


You seem agitated, it's not worth it. If you are this rabid on the internet, I can just imagine what you are like in real life. Take a deep breath and enjoy life!:wizard:
 
Good lord, do I need to post a novel? If the child's own parents and his doctors agreed that he was obsessed/fixated on my DD to the point that nothing/no one else mattered to him, let's just say we all had a problem on our hands. I felt bad for his parents because if I had been in their shoes, I don't know how I would have helped him. Goodness knows they tried, but it seemed to accomplish very little.

Seriously, it doesn't matter how full an explanation I give. Someone would somehow pick it apart.

Sorry, you posted that he (the 7 year old) stalked your child, and I wondered how that was allowed to happen. I still can't figure that one out.
 
You seem agitated, it's not worth it. If you are this rabid on the internet, I can just imagine what you are like in real life. Take a deep breath and enjoy life!:wizard:

Totally agreed - I think you need to get off this thread and forget that you made it - just relax! :goodvibes
 
You seem agitated, it's not worth it. If you are this rabid on the internet, I can just imagine what you are like in real life. Take a deep breath and enjoy life!:wizard:

Try reading with both eyes open before you get snarky and my attitude might improve. No one likes having words put in their mouth, especially incorrect ones.

Magic Mom, The best I can say is that everyone involved did their best to control him., including his parents. I have no complaints about the way everyone handled it because everyone did the best they could. The extent of his obsession was just extreme. He was never violent, so there was a limit to what could be done legally. Again, without going into detail, let me just say a 7 y.o. doesn't "stalk" the way a 17 y.o. would, but it's just as scary, because it's just as unnatural. My heart went out to his parents.
 
Okay seriously, EMom you are being baited over and over again. Quit going for it. You don't need to explain yourself to ppl who don't pay your bills ;) If you haven't already, sit back and laugh cuz this is some funny stuff! :laughing:

I like your long posts cuz I'm used to that from another website and well... look at the size of my post *gigglez*. We have a lot to say! :mic: I also appreciated the humor in your post because I remember the "dramas" of elementary school LOL! Mine are 12 and 16 now but I swear it's the same crap only different faces.

Now let me one up you on your 3rd grade story. When my DD started STARTED pre K there was this particular little girl who rode on the bus with my DD. She and her Mom would show up at the bus stop 30 minutes+ early every morning- no idea why. Anyhoo after about a week went by the Mom asked me if it would be okay if my DD sat with her DD on the bus a few days cuz her DD was still a bit scared. :sad1: :( :I asked my DD and she said SURE! cuz she thought the other lil girl seemed nice. Another 2 weeks went by and all of a sudden my DD wanted to be driven to school and picked up by me or my hubs. :confused: When I asked why she finally told me that other girl was bossing her around and not allowing my DD to even SPEAK to other kids not to mention the seating arrangement. :mad:

So being the Mom I am I told her she needed to be firm and just say no. She didn't have to do anything she didn't feel right doing-period. She's always been a little firecracker so she had no prob in doing so but because she was so young she didn't know she could. I empowered her. So another week goes by and my DD is back to being happy to ride the big kid bus :) Guess who showed up at my HOME pissed cuz my DD wasn't sitting (babysitting) her DD? YEP! I was shocked!:scared1: I got the guilt trip from hell about how HER poor 4 yr old was in tears every morning and every night and how HER DD didn't have any friends and how HER DD would be scarred, etc etc etc. Now mind you, all of this was said loud enough for my DD to hear. :listen: So there I was sitting in my living room being subject to EXACTLY what my DD had been. I politely told the woman that it was not my child's responibility to give her DD self esteem, security, or friendship for that matter. What about MY DD who had started to show ME signs of being uncomfortable because of how HER DD was treating her? It wasn't my fault her DD had an attatchment issue and it dang sure wasn't my DD's fault. SO after all of that the woman says to me "How about we set up play dates after school so our kids could play?"! Um excuse me? I don't think so! She had just been bordering on yelling at me over where my 4 yr old sat on a friggin bus! :crazy2: I told her I'd give her a call when MY DD wanted to play (she never did, imagine that).

But I'm not done yet!

The next year I became a Girl Scout leader cuz I wanted my little Daisy :D That little girl never joined our troop because the Mom hated me lol but our troop did all sorts of fun things in the neighborhood so everyone saw us together- often. The neighbors who live right behind me gave me the chance to be their DDs leader :) Now at this point there are three 5 yr olds involved. Try to keep up ppl.

SO now we have all three of these 5 yr olds. My DD had begun her kinder year at her designated school while the other two girls remained at the same school they had attended pre k for different reasons. My neighbor because she is alternately abled (that school has an EXCELLENT program) and the other girl cuz that was her designated school.

Neighbor girl and other girl had become friends :hyper2: because all three rode the bus together the year before. My DD and neighbor's DD were friends in GS as well as they played together almost every day after school. We are separated by a chain link fence, they'd known one another for 3 yrs by then. They was tight, know what I'm sayin'? :thumbsup2 Other girl starts going over to neighbor girl's house about 3 times a week to play with neighbor girl. Other girl does not play with neighbor girl. Other girl stands at the chain link fence staring into my back yard and house if the blinds aren't closed waiting for my DD to come out and play. :sail: This goes on for a while and my DD didn't want anything to do with that kid. So then neighbor girl starts asking if my DD can come over and play while other girl is there. She does- once. :crowded: Other girl gets mad and stops being neighbor girl's friend. :snooty:

I sit down with neighbor girl's Mom and have a really familiar conversation. It would seem other girl's Mom had been TELLING her to get my DD over to play and when my DD never went back other Mom gave neighbor Mom a guilt trip/lecture just like the one I got the year before! Neighbor Mom is not as nice as me :rotfl: cuz she's had to deal with a lot more than I could EVER fathom and told Other Mom OFF! :furious:

Now other girl and other Mom live somewhere else and I hope they have resolved their issues but in all honesty I doubt it :(

Do I feel bad for other girl? Of course! But as I was told by my BF I can't be everyone's Mom. Not my job. MY kids are MY job.


You continue supporting your DD like you always have and empower her to know her feeling are just as important as everyone else's!
 

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