Offsite FP+ issues

lenkard

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Was offsite last week and found the FP+ situation challenging. The other thread on offsite FP+ strategies (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3243745) has some good ideas. I'll start with some "lessons learned" and then go on to the issues for those interested.

Lessons learned
1. Don't expect to get FP+ for TSMM or ETWB and don't expect to necessarily get good times at certain low capacity attractions like Speedway. This might not be true if you are at the front of the pack at rope drop but getting to a kiosk at 9:15-9:30 (we tried skipping the front of the park kiosks and did find kiosks/groups of CMs with iPads further in with no wait but didn't get to them until 9:15 or so) we were shut out TSMM and ETWB. They may still be releasing same day FP+ slots for fully booked attractions at 8:45
2. Be persistent with the FP+ CM on moving times and switching things until you get times that are good for you. Most of the CMs will try to rush you through and some present the preset options as the only thing available. Review the posts on how FP+ scheduling works so you can "help" the CM get you the times you want. Only 1 out of the 6 CMs that helped me was very accomodating and actually quite adept at doing this for me.
3. Related to #2, try to have a firm idea of what you want for FP+ - rides and times - perhaps with a separate backup plan if you hve TSMM or ETWB in your plans.

Issues
I was glad to see while we were there that they are testing offsite access to FP+ pre-booking because day-off only in the parks is a really poor experience. You don't know what attractions you are going to get and whether the times you get will fit in with your plans. Having to stop, gather tickets, get your FP+ , and adjust your plans really interupts for flow of the morning even if you find kiosks or CMs with no line. You cannot change your FP+ times or rides on the go without waiting in what most often was a significant line. This was our first trip as a family to WDW and I just had no idea how many bathroom and snack breaks we were going to need, how long it would take us to walk from place to place or complete sections of the park. We ended up crossing the MK two different times to use our FP+ times and abandoned several of them at various parks because we just were in the wrong place at the time. As noted above, only 1 of the CMs that helped us book FP+ was particularly helpful. I would have been happy to spend the time to do it all myself in advance. Although our party of 6 was linked on MDE we NEVER came up that way so all 6 cards had to be scanned each time. The CMs were often talking about glitches and system issues although fortunately, except for having to rescan the cards once after 4 of the 6 were in, we actually seemed to avoid any real glitches.

So as my brother-in-law who was with us said, yes, FP+ is better then nothing, but offsite needs pre-booking (it can be 30 days instead of 60) and access to MDE to make changes on the go, and hopefully both of that is coming before summer.
 
I thought it was bad when Toy Story 'Mania (paper) fastpasses were sold out by 11 AM back in 2010. You mean tosay that nowadays, TSMM (electronic) FP were sold out (read: the ride was fully booked for all day) by 9:15, when the park had scarcely opened?
 
I thought it was bad when Toy Story 'Mania (paper) fastpasses were sold out by 11 AM back in 2010. You mean tosay that nowadays, TSMM (electronic) FP were sold out (read: the ride was fully booked for all day) by 9:15, when the park had scarcely opened?

While we were there the FPs sometimes sold out the by supper time the day before. But everyone can still ride SB.
 
To answer seashore: Yes. The TSMM were out *before* park open. On a day the park opened at 9am (actually opened a little early), we were IN the toy story line by 9:00am on the dot. The wait was 60 minutes already. And the other half of our party (en route to Rock and Roller, which was broken at the time!) said FP+ were all out for TSMM.

I had the same experience as the OP as an off-site guest last week. We were able to see Belle by doing it first thing at MK when we arrived at rope drop. We were shut out of TSMM. (Yes, we could have waited 60-105 minutes for standby).
 

Was offsite last week and found the FP+ situation challenging. The other thread on offsite FP+ strategies (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3243745) has some good ideas. I'll start with some "lessons learned" and then go on to the issues for those interested.

Lessons learned
1. Don't expect to get FP+ for TSMM or ETWB and don't expect to necessarily get good times at certain low capacity attractions like Speedway. This might not be true if you are at the front of the pack at rope drop but getting to a kiosk at 9:15-9:30 (we tried skipping the front of the park kiosks and did find kiosks/groups of CMs with iPads further in with no wait but didn't get to them until 9:15 or so) we were shut out TSMM and ETWB. They may still be releasing same day FP+ slots for fully booked attractions at 8:45
2. Be persistent with the FP+ CM on moving times and switching things until you get times that are good for you. Most of the CMs will try to rush you through and some present the preset options as the only thing available. Review the posts on how FP+ scheduling works so you can "help" the CM get you the times you want. Only 1 out of the 6 CMs that helped me was very accomodating and actually quite adept at doing this for me.
3. Related to #2, try to have a firm idea of what you want for FP+ - rides and times - perhaps with a separate backup plan if you hve TSMM or ETWB in your plans.

Issues
I was glad to see while we were there that they are testing offsite access to FP+ pre-booking because day-off only in the parks is a really poor experience. You don't know what attractions you are going to get and whether the times you get will fit in with your plans. Having to stop, gather tickets, get your FP+ , and adjust your plans really interupts for flow of the morning even if you find kiosks or CMs with no line. You cannot change your FP+ times or rides on the go without waiting in what most often was a significant line. This was our first trip as a family to WDW and I just had no idea how many bathroom and snack breaks we were going to need, how long it would take us to walk from place to place or complete sections of the park. We ended up crossing the MK two different times to use our FP+ times and abandoned several of them at various parks because we just were in the wrong place at the time. As noted above, only 1 of the CMs that helped us book FP+ was particularly helpful. I would have been happy to spend the time to do it all myself in advance. Although our party of 6 was linked on MDE we NEVER came up that way so all 6 cards had to be scanned each time. The CMs were often talking about glitches and system issues although fortunately, except for having to rescan the cards once after 4 of the 6 were in, we actually seemed to avoid any real glitches.

So as my brother-in-law who was with us said, yes, FP+ is better then nothing, but offsite needs pre-booking (it can be 30 days instead of 60) and access to MDE to make changes on the go, and hopefully both of that is coming before summer.

Good tips :thumbsup2

I would add that you need a back up plan all day. If a ride goes down or something, it's good to know what you'd want to switch to so that you don't end up criss crossing the park to get to all of them. We got messed up one evening when part of new FL was closed and we couldn't get to Ariel. We ended up changing our times around completely just to fit another in.

I agree that offsiters need to get adv booking -- it would be tough to not even know what you're doing or how long you'll need to be in the park (like if you couldn't get TSMM until late in the day) before you even get there. Hopefully soon.
 
In regards to a ride being "down" and needing to change a FP+ selection, this is not always necessary.

When we arrived for out BTMRR FP+, the ride was down. I asked a CM if I needed to change the reservation & if it would work, since my window was already open for 15 minutes. She told me there was no reason to change it if I still wanted BTMRR, as the system knows when the ride is down & the FP would be eligible until park close. My original was for 7-8, we rode (MB turned Mickey green) at 10:30, and when I checked MDE later that night it showed 7-11(11 was park close.) alternatively, if I wanted to forgo BTMRR, I could use my MB immediately at (she thought 5 attractions in the "thrill collection"): POTC, HM, SM, Indy Speedway, or Buzz. Now, I don't call these all "thrill rides", but Disney may. I know the rider re-entry pass we were given at one point named similar attractions. I didn't try the 2nd option, so not sure if it works, but it was MUCH easier than trying to find time in the park to fight with MDE to change FP+ selections. YMMV and I'm not sure if this works at other parks or if just MK due to higher ride capacities and more FP+ attractions.
 
2. Be persistent with the FP+ CM on moving times and switching things until you get times that are good for you. Most of the CMs will try to rush you through and some present the preset options as the only thing available. Review the posts on how FP+ scheduling works so you can "help" the CM get you the times you want. Only 1 out of the 6 CMs that helped me was very accomodating and actually quite adept at doing this for me.

Can you point me to post to review how the FP+ scheduling works so I can be ready?

Great post, thank you. I added your link to my post, which you referenced above. I sure feel like a guinea pig going to MK next Friday. Really thinking of skipping MK for EP. We are only going two days, AK Sat the 22nd. Going to US/IoA for three days first, onsite at Hard Rock Hotel with Express Passes. Can't imagine ending with the mess that is happening now in MK after 3 days in the fast lane. Booked everything, including purchasing tix, before I knew how badly FP+ was for off-site folks. Too late to change, except to choose to go to mellow World Showcase and enjoy that park, instead!
 


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