Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[PRmamiDEdos]

CEP is a fantastic brand for compression socks.

I've got a pair from CWX and from 2XU. I find the CWX have stronger compression going up my calf and the 2XU have stronger compression around my foot and ankle. That said, I love them both and would recommend either.

I also own a pair of Zensa calf sleeves which I find really useful for wearing during a run but not nearly as effective as my compression socks for wearing after my ice bath.

I have a pair of the CW-X tights (perform-x) and I LOVE them. I keep them on before,during and after the race and I feel no pain! I notice a difference when I don't wear them especially in my hip flexors. I need a 3/4 pair and a shorts pair for warmer weather.

 

[jimandami]

I have been trying to convince myself to spend the $ on CWX tights for a year...lol! One day I decided to buy a 3/4 at the running store but apparently I am too short even for the x-small to fit my knees correctly! I am going to buy a full length pair for this winter!

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

I have been trying to convince myself to spend the $ on CWX tights for a year...lol! One day I decided to buy a 3/4 at the running store but apparently I am too short even for the x-small to fit my knees correctly! I am going to buy a full length pair for this winter!

I search prices online through Google shopping and then google coupon codes. My perform-x tights came out to $60 with shipping when I bought them in January for the Princess 1/2. I'm trying to find a 3/4 pair cheaper than that.

 

[jimandami]

That's a great deal! They had them 50% off on the Clymb the other day but I missed out on my size! I do have some Zoot compression tights I bought from Running Warehouse for like $25 but they feel more like thick pantyhose than running tights!

 

[Bephus]

Coach- thanks for the advice on the foam roller. I got one this weekend and have already felt a huge difference. I am rolling just before and just after I run, is this ideal?
Saw that the prices are up online for next year. I have 5 options and will be discussing with DH where to stay. I am still thinking Poly if we go deluxe or POFQ if we go mod for the queen beds and DTD boats.

 

[cewait]

I was going to post this in my previous post on compression.... CW-x, is not a compression clothing. It is more like kineseo taping (KT) your legs. The difference is that the strips in the fabric direct pressure along lines of support. These are by far a great thing to run in, if you can afford. I find that quality has fallen with popularity gains. Regardless, I still wear as temps fall and distances increase

 

[cewait]

Coach- thanks for the advice on the foam roller. I got one this weekend and have already felt a huge difference. I am rolling just before and just after I run, is this ideal?

It's good. I would stretch the period pre-run out if you can, but immediate is not injurous.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

I was going to post this in my previous post on compression.... CW-x, is not a compression clothing. It is more like kineseo taping (KT) your legs. The difference is that the strips in the fabric direct pressure along lines of support. These are by far a great thing to run in, if you can afford. I find that quality has fallen with popularity gains. Regardless, I still wear as temps fall and distances increase

The Performx tights are listed as targeted compression on the website. I'm wondering if that means they're compression tights only in certain places? Feels like all over to me. They really hold my stomach and lower back because they're a little higher up on the waist. I hate the compression pants they sell that are so low and don't support your lower back! I do wish they WOULD make petite/shorter sizes. Just remember, always wash in delicate and NEVER put them in the dryer. I've actually missed them during the warm weather. I wish I could afford a pair of the ventilator shorts! I look for Internet coupons all the time.

http://cw-x.com/ExploreProducts.aspx?product=tights&by=collection&gender=womens

WOMEN'S PERFORMX TIGHTS - BLACK/PERIWINKLE

The PerformX Tights keep everything in correct alignment for optimum balance, efficiency and power by providing support for the IT band, hip flexors and quads as well as good stabilization of the knees, calfs and achilles. The patented CW-X Support Web™ acts as a suspension system for the quadriceps, increasing power at the push phase of the running motion. The gentle targeted compression of the CW-X Support Web™ increases circulation, minimizing lactic acid buildup and reducing muscle soreness, making PerformX Tights ideal recovery wear.

 

[APrunner]

Coach- thanks for the advice on the foam roller. I got one this weekend and have already felt a huge difference. I am rolling just before and just after I run, is this ideal?
Saw that the prices are up online for next year. I have 5 options and will be discussing with DH where to stay. I am still thinking Poly if we go deluxe or POFQ if we go mod for the queen beds and DTD boats.

Go with what works for you, but I would not foam roll right before or right after a run. If you run in the morning, I would roll later in the day. Before a run, find a good dynamic warm up routine. I repeat the dynamic routine after the run, with a little bit of light static stretching. Foam rolling right after a run will likely have the same effect as a massage post run. Basically just moving the lactic acid around, possibly doing more harm than good to your muscles. When you are done running, walk a little, then move to a dynamic "cool down" routine. Then maybe some light stretching. Save the foam roller for later.

Poly is nice. I am a bit of a Beach Club person myself, probably out of my love for EPCOT. POFQ is my favorite for moderates.

 

[ColleenG]

Lucky you!! I loved, loved, loved the Princess last year. I wish I could run again, but my budget won't allow for 2 Disney runs, especially when we will be back to WDW in August of 2013 as a family.

The only way I can afford to do both is to leave DH and the kids at home. Last year they were such a buzz kill. They are all kinda Disneyed out. Something I cannot comprehend at all! . We have DVC so that saves on the room and I have an AP from last year since we went twice. It's cheaper to renew it with the DVC discount than it is to buy 2 5 day base tickets or 10 day no expiration. Not sure when we will make it back there as a family. Maybe next year I'll just take the 2 little guys. They at least still appreciate Disney and the magic.

 

[JENR]

Okay I havent signed up yet but I think I am going to go for the full marathon. I have never run a marathon. I did a few 5 k's but that was like 5 years ago. I have been running for like 13 years and run about 22 miles a week. I was going to sign up for the half but when I look at the training schedule it is what I have been doing. I figured I should challenge myself and do the full. What do you think? Need to sign up soon. Also, I run mostly on the treadmill. If I run a 7.5 minute mile should I expect to run alot slower outside. Also, should I start slowing that down bc obviously I won't be running that pace in the marathon. Right now I just run for exercise and to burn calories. Please help this is all new to me. Also, If I don't submit a time, what happens? I was thinking about trying to do a half in the fall so I can submit a time. Also right now I run 5 miles 3 x a week and on Sat I run 7 miles. Should I only run three days a week or should I stay with what I am doing now and just increase my Sat runs.

Sorry for all the questions.

 

[jmasgat]

Jenr If you're up for the challenge, go for it! You have a good base ot work off of. First thing I would do is find a novice marathon plan and look it over. Hal Higdon, Marathoning for Mortals, Run Less/Run Faster are just a few. You want to structure your runs appropriately (distance and pace), and find one that fits your life schedule.

As for treadmill.....opinions will vary. I actually train for all my races using a 3 run/wk plan and do 2 of 3 on the TM, saving the long run for the road. I train at specific paces set out in the plan and don't bother with adjusting the TM incline. So as far as pace on vs off TM is concerned, for me. it's dictated by the type of run, nothing else.

As far as submitting a time, if you don't submit one you will start in one of the back corrals. You can submit anything from 10k over, and they will place you in a corral corresponding to a projected finish time. You can change your corral at the race expo if you have proof of time, so don;t let this be a major worry. I think doing a fall race would be a good idea. You can find a week in your training plan that has 13 (or so) and use the race as a "supported training run".

Anyway....good luck deciding.

Maura

 

[cewait]

Go with what works for you, but I would not foam roll right before or right after a run. If you run in the morning, I would roll later in the day. Before a run, find a good dynamic warm up routine. I repeat the dynamic routine after the run, with a little bit of light static stretching. Foam rolling right after a run will likely have the same effect as a massage post run. Basically just moving the lactic acid around, possibly doing more harm than good to your muscles. When you are done running, walk a little, then move to a dynamic "cool down" routine. Then maybe some light stretching. Save the foam roller for later.

Poly is nice. I am a bit of a Beach Club person myself, probably out of my love for EPCOT. POFQ is my favorite for moderates.

Definitely agree that a massage immediately post run is a bad choice. However, there are a few studies that suggest pin pointed myofascial release (foam rolling in specific spots) soon after a workout is a good thing. Let me couch this in the 'we are all an experiment of one' light and say that not all things work well for all people. What happened to lacing them up and heading out the door?

 

[cewait]

Okay I havent signed up yet but I think I am going to go for the full marathon. I have never run a marathon. I did a few 5 k's but that was like 5 years ago. I have been running for like 13 years and run about 22 miles a week. I was going to sign up for the half but when I look at the training schedule it is what I have been doing. I figured I should challenge myself and do the full. What do you think? Need to sign up soon. Also, I run mostly on the treadmill. If I run a 7.5 minute mile should I expect to run alot slower outside. Also, should I start slowing that down bc obviously I won't be running that pace in the marathon. Right now I just run for exercise and to burn calories. Please help this is all new to me. Also, If I don't submit a time, what happens? I was thinking about trying to do a half in the fall so I can submit a time. Also right now I run 5 miles 3 x a week and on Sat I run 7 miles. Should I only run three days a week or should I stay with what I am doing now and just increase my Sat runs.

Sorry for all the questions.

Let me say that you could run a half Saturday if there was one in the neighborhood. If you are looking for a challenge, then step up, though it needs to be something you are driven to do as November and December can get long.

I think your speed outdoors will vary some from the mill, but not all that much. You will not have the motor effect so it will feel a little harder, but in all likelihood, your stride will lengthen a bit creating a little speed.

I would only use your TM speed as an estimate for where you start. You do not say where you are exertion-wise on the 7 mile run... if you are only at a 6-7 level (out of 10) and could carry on a nearly normal conversation, then you are at a great training pace. If your 7:30 pace is a struggle and you are huffy puffy; only able to say a couple words per breath, then you need to slow up.

I have a little different take on submitting a time. Submit a 5:01 expected finish time. It keeps you out of the last corral and does not need a back up race as proof of time. By doing this, you take the need for a fall race off the books. Though at a 7:30 - 8:00 pace, you will want to get that fall race in. You will want to start in the proper corral to allow for a good race.

Like Maura, I only run 3x a week, sometimes 4. But I am also in my mid 50's. With your base, I would look at Higdon's marathon plan. I think he has you out 4-5x a week. You need to follow a plan for your first marathon or so. Most plans include a periodization build; or saying it another way, they increase miles 2-4 weeks, then fall back for a week as a recovery week. It is important to allow for the recovery weeks as you build miles. These are actually the weeks you gain strength.

Hope this helps.

 

[Ariel484]

I booked my flights last night and submitted an updated proof-of-time to runDisney this morning (15 minutes faster than the one I gave them last year)! Now I'm off to call and add my flights and Magical Express to my reservation, and make ADRs on Saturday!

...and after all of that activity there's still 6 whole months to wait until the trip is here.

 

[JENR]

Let me say that you could run a half Saturday if there was one in the neighborhood. If you are looking for a challenge, then step up, though it needs to be something you are driven to do as November and December can get long.

I think your speed outdoors will vary some from the mill, but not all that much. You will not have the motor effect so it will feel a little harder, but in all likelihood, your stride will lengthen a bit creating a little speed.

I would only use your TM speed as an estimate for where you start. You do not say where you are exertion-wise on the 7 mile run... if you are only at a 6-7 level (out of 10) and could carry on a nearly normal conversation, then you are at a great training pace. If your 7:30 pace is a struggle and you are huffy puffy; only able to say a couple words per breath, then you need to slow up.

I have a little different take on submitting a time. Submit a 5:01 expected finish time. It keeps you out of the last corral and does not need a back up race as proof of time. By doing this, you take the need for a fall race off the books. Though at a 7:30 - 8:00 pace, you will want to get that fall race in. You will want to start in the proper corral to allow for a good race.

Like Maura, I only run 3x a week, sometimes 4. But I am also in my mid 50's. With your base, I would look at Higdon's marathon plan. I think he has you out 4-5x a week. You need to follow a plan for your first marathon or so. Most plans include a periodization build; or saying it another way, they increase miles 2-4 weeks, then fall back for a week as a recovery week. It is important to allow for the recovery weeks as you build miles. These are actually the weeks you gain strength.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for all the information. Currently when I run on the TM, I can carry on a normal conversation. Now this morning I just went for a run outside. I did about a 10 minute mile at a very comfortable pace. So my pace was alot slower outside which I figured it would be.

I just looked up the Higdon training schedule for Novice 1 and it looks like a perfect fit for me although I have never ran more than 8 miles at one time so this will be a challenge. Currently, this is my routine.

Monday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Tuesday: 1 hour spin; weights
Wednesday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Thursday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Friday: 90 minutes spin and weights
Saturday: 7 mile run
Sunday: Rest

Should I stay with my routine just add mileage to Saturdays. Like I said I am new to this marathon thing. Just something I have always wanted to do.

I think I will sign up for the full and challenge myself. I am nervous but I think I will go for it.

 

[KSBelle77]

Thank you for all the information. Currently when I run on the TM, I can carry on a normal conversation. Now this morning I just went for a run outside. I did about a 10 minute mile at a very comfortable pace. So my pace was alot slower outside which I figured it would be.

I just looked up the Higdon training schedule for Novice 1 and it looks like a perfect fit for me although I have never ran more than 8 miles at one time so this will be a challenge. Currently, this is my routine.

Monday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Tuesday: 1 hour spin; weights
Wednesday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Thursday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Friday: 90 minutes spin and weights
Saturday: 7 mile run
Sunday: Rest

Should I stay with my routine just add mileage to Saturdays.

I think I will sign up for the full and challenge myself. I am nervous but I think I will go for it.

I alway find I run faster during an actual race than training. Probably the adrenaline! Not complaining though got a great corral for princes bc of it. Corral C out of H.

 

[Ariel484]

Thank you for all the information. Currently when I run on the TM, I can carry on a normal conversation. Now this morning I just went for a run outside. I did about a 10 minute mile at a very comfortable pace. So my pace was alot slower outside which I figured it would be.

I just looked up the Higdon training schedule for Novice 1 and it looks like a perfect fit for me although I have never ran more than 8 miles at one time so this will be a challenge. Currently, this is my routine.

Monday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Tuesday: 1 hour spin; weights
Wednesday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Thursday: 5 mile run, 30 minutes eliptical and weights
Friday: 90 minutes spin and weights
Saturday: 7 mile run
Sunday: Rest

Should I stay with my routine just add mileage to Saturdays. Like I said I am new to this marathon thing. Just something I have always wanted to do.

I think I will sign up for the full and challenge myself. I am nervous but I think I will go for it.

As marathon training really kicks into gear (if you use Higdon's Novice 1 plan you'll be starting training in September) you may find that the above schedule is too much. Specifically 5 days a week of weights and the elliptical...maybe cut out the elliptical completely, keep the weights/spinning on Tuesday/Friday, and add in another weight session on Wednesday or Thursday? Maybe you'll be fine keeping up this schedule, but I think if I personally was trying to do it, it would be too much.

I alway find I run faster during an actual race than training. Probably the adrenaline! Not complaining though got a great corral for princes bc of it. Corral C out of H.

Me too! I think that's pretty common...all of the excitement makes it hard to slow down!

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Yeah, I would suggest most people, and especially first timers, not do much, if any cross training. The marathon is about running endurance. You cannot get that from any other physical activity. The more miles you run, the better marathon you’re going to have. It’s as simple as that.

 

[randomiam79]

At Blue Tree resort in Orlando now. I've actually stayed on my 3x week plan on this vacation, where normally I completely fall off.
A little added inspiration as i've been running from here to Downtown Disney/Saratoga Springs, coming through the back way down 535/Buena Vista Blvd (though I passed a 'no jogging past this point' sign after I'd run that stretch...woops) on my longer run (7-8 miles) and Hotel Plaza Blvd for the shorter one (4 miles or so). Haven't taken a gps or watch either time, just enjoying the early morning calmness of the Disney area compared to how crazy it gets later in the day.

One thing about running early through Disney though, many 'nice' people honking their horn at you, (they all waved and smiled) always makes me jump a little even though that's not always the intent. At least you know if they honk then they see you, I guess. better than wondering if the driver approaching you is texting or not paying attention