Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[kmg148]

I agree, keep at it! You can finish a marathon, no worries!
My longest has been 13.3 miles, with a 4 mile walk total to and from the race. I count it as 17.3 miles lol, since I plan to walk half of it anyway! My goal is to run at least the first 13, possibly 15-16 miles and walk the rest. I will have an easy 20 minutes per mile to walk once I am done running!

Thanks Kim!

 

[Sabeking]

Second question -- how's everyone doing on marathon training?

I'm really worried I'm getting too far behind and won't be able to catch up. I work a lot at my job and don't have many weekends off. My longest run so far in the training has been 11 miles (3 weeks ago). I'm worried I'm getting too far behind. Am I? If I don't get a 13 in this weekend should I throw in the towel?

If you check this out I believe you are actually right on track.
http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/pdf/rundisney/training-programs/2013/MARATHON13beg.pdf

I actually never did more than 20 before any of the fulls I have done. That's just me but I believe you've got this!

 

[cewait]

I will be honest. I only wear mine as a promise to my wife. I did draw the line at the fluorescent yellow vest like construction workers wear.

You can dig back in the files here and see where the reflectivity of a roadID saved my bacon one morning in 2010. I was hit by a car (glancing blow) and ended up in the middle of the street on my back. A second car slammed on the brakes only seeing the flash of the reflection of the ID. I NEVER run while dark without a reflective ID and a vest or flashing light of some sort.

 

[cewait]

Second question -- how's everyone doing on marathon training?

I'm really worried I'm getting too far behind and won't be able to catch up. I work a lot at my job and don't have many weekends off. My longest run so far in the training has been 11 miles (3 weeks ago). I'm worried I'm getting too far behind. Am I? If I don't get a 13 in this weekend should I throw in the towel?

If you are throwing in the towel with a long run of 11 miles - I might as well too! I just did 11 miles this past weekend and that is the furthest I have ever gone! And actually my Higdon Novice 2 plan only called for 9 - I bumped it up to 11 because I have a half coming up in 2 weeks!

I say keep at it!

Don't worry at this point.

Just keep to the schedule as best you can. Do not try to make up miles, just keep plugging. Obviously, if you cannot run 15 in a couple weeks, try for 13 or 11. Stick with it. I am assuming you are on a Galloway plan. Just understand that his plan is overweighted on long running so you have make up room at the rear of the plan. You can honestly run a full with a couple 16 mile long runs. Though, I would try to double up on the effort of the mid week runs. These runs are kind of junk runs for the casual Galloway runner. Make them purposeful with hills and speed play. This will offset some of the loss from the long run.

What ever you do, do not try to run a 13 next weekend and a 15 the following... or worse a 13, 15, then 17 after missing another long run. Cramming for a marathon is not the ticket. Try to stick as best you can with your schedule, know ing that a shorter longest run is still workable.

 

[maganda]

Look at any car vs pedestrian mishap and tell me where the shoes go... They do not stay with the victim and if kind of dark they may not be seen. First responders may never know who you are. Stick with the wrist or dog tag versions.

I thought the same thing. I wear my roadid slim all the time, everywhere. I work out at the gym almost every day. If God forbid I collapsed or something, the gym staff (who know me by face and maybe first name) could call DH.

 

[JCH]

If you are throwing in the towel with a long run of 11 miles - I might as well too! I just did 11 miles this past weekend and that is the furthest I have ever gone! And actually my Higdon Novice 2 plan only called for 9 - I bumped it up to 11 because I have a half coming up in 2 weeks!

I say keep at it!

Same here, I did 11 two weekends ago and have the 10 miler this weekend. My long runs after that will be 12, 14, 17, 20, 20 with a possible half taking the place of the first 20. Although I am contemplating switching to Higdon Novice 1 and just starting with week 4...or maybe I'll stick with the plan I have and add in some 4-8 mile pace runs on Wednesday. I've already switched my 30 minute workouts to hills and speed, and have definitely noticed a difference!

 

[kmg148]

If you are throwing in the towel with a long run of 11 miles - I might as well too! I just did 11 miles this past weekend and that is the furthest I have ever gone! And actually my Higdon Novice 2 plan only called for 9 - I bumped it up to 11 because I have a half coming up in 2 weeks!

I say keep at it!

I didn't mean to offend anyone's training! I'm sorry. I just feel like I'm very far behind when I see that people are logging 20-30 miles. I feel better after hearing from everyone.

If you check this out I believe you are actually right on track.
http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/pdf/rundisney/training-programs/2013/MARATHON13beg.pdf

I actually never did more than 20 before any of the fulls I have done. That's just me but I believe you've got this!

Thanks. You all are the best!!

Don't worry at this point.

Just keep to the schedule as best you can. Do not try to make up miles, just keep plugging. Obviously, if you cannot run 15 in a couple weeks, try for 13 or 11. Stick with it. I am assuming you are on a Galloway plan. Just understand that his plan is overweighted on long running so you have make up room at the rear of the plan. You can honestly run a full with a couple 16 mile long runs. Though, I would try to double up on the effort of the mid week runs. These runs are kind of junk runs for the casual Galloway runner. Make them purposeful with hills and speed play. This will offset some of the loss from the long run.

What ever you do, do not try to run a 13 next weekend and a 15 the following... or worse a 13, 15, then 17 after missing another long run. Cramming for a marathon is not the ticket. Try to stick as best you can with your schedule, know ing that a shorter longest run is still workable.

Thanks for pointing out to not do the long runs weekend after weekend--because that's exactly what I was going to try and do. I'll try to stick to the plan. I really appreciate the advice and I'll start throwing in some hill work. I do a lot of speed work, so I'll throw in some elevation!

Same here, I did 11 two weekends ago and have the 10 miler this weekend. My long runs after that will be 12, 14, 17, 20, 20 with a possible half taking the place of the first 20. Although I am contemplating switching to Higdon Novice 1 and just starting with week 4...or maybe I'll stick with the plan I have and add in some 4-8 mile pace runs on Wednesday. I've already switched my 30 minute workouts to hills and speed, and have definitely noticed a difference!

Thanks for sharing your plan so far! It helps to hear I'm not alone!


I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone hear. You are all so supportive and I can't thank everyone enough. I don't have any running buddies, so it gets difficult and it's very easy for me to get down on myself. I was in the hospital with a heart problem a couple years ago and never thought I'd be running, let alone for a marathon! Everyone here is so inspirational!

 

[NitroStitch]

You, my friend, are the first to comment on it.

It brought an immediate smile to my face when I saw it.

 

[dizdreamer1955]

There was a discount code posted on the boards last year..I used it. I found out later that the code came from a "group" and that some one had posted it in FB and it was picked up and posted here. It was to be for some specific groups. but you know once on FB it becomes very public.

Trying to catch up on this thread. Have been away for a month walking the camino de santiago and now need to train for the full. Glad I signed up before I left, can't believe it is full.

Hi, How was the Camino de Santiago? I recently saw the movie "The Way" and found it so interesting! I would love to know more about your experience.

 

[lerxst]

I do run/walk intervals, usually run 1:30 and walk :30. My usual runs are 3 miles with 10-11 minute miles, long runs are 12:00-12:30. I've been running for about a year and a half.

I am following the Galloway method and that's why I feel as though I'm too behind to catch up. I honestly don't have enough hours in a week to log many miles and in a non long run week I am only logging between 10-12 miles total. I think that's what has me so worried -- when I see how many miles everyone else is logging!

Thanks for your help!

You are fine. Plenty of time. Plus, you paid for the race already, might as well try to get as much out of it as you can.

 

[steph0808]

I didn't mean to offend anyone's training! I'm sorry. I just feel like I'm very far behind when I see that people are logging 20-30 miles. I feel better after hearing from everyone.

I wasn't offended at all! I just meant that I think a lot of us are following similar plans so doing long runs of the same length right now - so you aren't falling behind or anything!

 

[sunshine girl]

I do run/walk intervals, usually run 1:30 and walk :30. My usual runs are 3 miles with 10-11 minute miles, long runs are 12:00-12:30. I've been running for about a year and a half.

I am following the Galloway method and that's why I feel as though I'm too behind to catch up. I honestly don't have enough hours in a week to log many miles and in a non long run week I am only logging between 10-12 miles total. I think that's what has me so worried -- when I see how many miles everyone else is logging!

Thanks for your help!

You can do it! Lots of good advice already posted.

My 2 cents: Don't worry about what everyone else is doing, just follow what works for you and your own expectations for the race! It can seem like others are planning out (or mulling over or just generally spending time on) every detail of training. But there are others out here who are similar to you. Like me! I just don't post too often, I am almost always on my iphone and the tiny keyboard does not inspire me to post.

Anyway, I'm not training perfectly! I adjusted my expectations accordingly -- not planning on winning or PR-ing. I just want to get there in good shape, injury-free. I want to experience the race and get the medal!

First, I pulled a leg muscle which kept me from running for 4 full weeks through August. So I didn't run -- I was careful to let it heal, and now it's fine. BUT THEN, I fell very dramatically down a flight of stairs (not even any alcohol involved, just a classic wipeout). Luckily no breaks or sprains, but I got the worst, dark black bruises I've ever had. Including a huge one right on the thigh, which again slowed down the training.

Anyway, my point: even with all those setbacks... I'm still training! So keep at it! As long as you have the desire to continue, I think you are not behind at all.

My mini-update: I did 13 miles this weekend and felt GREAT. Following the Galloway plan for the first time (after doing Higdon 3 times), and I love it. I find I can negative-split my long runs easily (run the 2nd half faster than the first) and still have energy left at the end for the rest of my day. No post-run crash or soreness, either. I love it!!

Good luck to all as training progresses, I am enjoying reading about everyone's progress, etc.!

 

[John VN]

You can do it! Lots of good advice already posted.

My 2 cents: Don't worry about what everyone else is doing, just follow what works for you and your own expectations for the race! It can seem like others are planning out (or mulling over or just generally spending time on) every detail of training. But there are others out here who are similar to you. Like me! I just don't post too often, I am almost always on my iphone and the tiny keyboard does not inspire me to post.

Anyway, I'm not training perfectly! I adjusted my expectations accordingly -- not planning on winning or PR-ing. I just want to get there in good shape, injury-free. I want to experience the race and get the medal!

First, I pulled a leg muscle which kept me from running for 4 full weeks through August. So I didn't run -- I was careful to let it heal, and now it's fine. BUT THEN, I fell very dramatically down a flight of stairs (not even any alcohol involved, just a classic wipeout). Luckily no breaks or sprains, but I got the worst, dark black bruises I've ever had. Including a huge one right on the thigh, which again slowed down the training.

Anyway, my point: even with all those setbacks... I'm still training! So keep at it! As long as you have the desire to continue, I think you are not behind at all.

My mini-update: I did 13 miles this weekend and felt GREAT. Following the Galloway plan for the first time (after doing Higdon 3 times), and I love it. I find I can negative-split my long runs easily (run the 2nd half faster than the first) and still have energy left at the end for the rest of my day. No post-run crash or soreness, either. I love it!!

Good luck to all as training progresses, I am enjoying reading about everyone's progress, etc.!

Words of wisdom.

I believe there is way too much emphasis on RUNNING a MARATHON. This mindset is causing far too many injuries simply because people are not careful enough.

I have been walking for 2 1/2 years and only now am I beginning to jog/run. In this time frame I have never had a serious injury plus I am an older 62yo geezer.

Do what is comfortable and safe for yourself and if that means more walking than running to complete an event, DO SO. You will be much happier having finished than being swept.

BTW-my half PR is 2:11:12 and full PR is 4:56:28 walking. Looking forward to improving both in upcoming events. I know they are no where near the fast times of runners but I am having lots of fun during my training periods and races.

 

[Mickey'sfriend]

Second question -- how's everyone doing on marathon training?

I'm really worried I'm getting too far behind and won't be able to catch up. I work a lot at my job and don't have many weekends off. My longest run so far in the training has been 11 miles (3 weeks ago). I'm worried I'm getting too far behind. Am I? If I don't get a 13 in this weekend should I throw in the towel?

If this is your first marathon with the goal to simply finish the event, then you are right on target with most beginner marathon plans. Keep gradually increasing that long run each week, along with getting at least 2 other shorter runs in and I think you will be a-ok!

 

[lerxst]

Words of wisdom.

I believe there is way too much emphasis on RUNNING a MARATHON. This mindset is causing far too many injuries simply because people are not careful enough.

.

You really hit on a key point. I personally was opposed to any walking on a marathon. Since foot injury I have adopted Galloway and have been surprised how much easier it is...and my times are the same (if not faster).

Always learning....

 

[princessbride6205]

kmg148 - I am with you on the training schedule. I am doing Galloway but scaling back each of his long runs a little, so that I max out at 20 miles rather than his suggested 26. So last weekend I also did an 11 mile. I mainly walk (on the cusp of "just" moderately brisk walking and race walking) with 20-30 second running segments mixed in every few minutes. I'd do more, but I've learned it's all my knee can handle. I think the walk/run thing lends a lot of flexibility to the plans. All I want is to finish and not be injured. Anyway, I think you're on track. Keep at it!

 

[John VN]

kmg148 - I am with you on the training schedule. I am doing Galloway but scaling back each of his long runs a little, so that I max out at 20 miles rather than his suggested 26. So last weekend I also did an 11 mile. I mainly walk (on the cusp of "just" moderately brisk walking and race walking) with 20-30 second running segments mixed in every few minutes. I'd do more, but I've learned it's all my knee can handle. I think the walk/run thing lends a lot of flexibility to the plans. All I want is to finish and not be injured. Anyway, I think you're on track. Keep at it!

Race walking with the heel plant has a greater chance of causing knee injury compared to Chi Walking or mid foot strike speed walking.

 

[VernRDH]

Agree that everyone needs to do their own thing. Plus remember, some of us have other races coming up before January, so our mileage is higher. I have my first full next weekend so I have done the 17 and 20 milers. I know there are a few folks doing Chicago or New York or the Space Coast races, so our training schedules are a little off from yours. But there is still plenty of time, and you will get there. One thing long distance running has taught me is patience, that is for sure.

Another question for those who have them-compression socks. What do you think about them, do you run in them or just wear them for recovery? I bought a pair this week to try, DH swears by his. Wears them to run and anytime we fly. I will try them out on my last long run this weekend and see how they feel, undecided about wearing them for the race next weekend. But if they are going to help me, then I will definately wear them. I got the lime green ones from CEP. They were on sale on Amazon (44.20 ) I couldn't remember if we had discussed compression socks in the almost 200 pages of this thread!

 

[John VN]

.....Another question for those who have them-compression socks. What do you think about them, do you run in them or just wear them for recovery? I bought a pair this week to try, DH swears by his. Wears them to run and anytime we fly. I will try them out on my last long run this weekend and see how they feel, undecided about wearing them for the race next weekend. But if they are going to help me, then I will definately wear them. I got the lime green ones from CEP. They were on sale on Amazon (44.20 ) I couldn't remember if we had discussed compression socks in the almost 200 pages of this thread!

Never wore them before. At this year's Dopey I walked the half in 2:23:18, harder than I should have. Wound up straining knees and calves. Put on DW's complete socks for the full. Should have only been the sleeves. They felt great throughout the full. After 1 mile into the full my knees just about gave out. Thankfully we had our motor home in the EPCOT parking lot so I called DW on the phone and she met me at the entrance into EPCOT lot at 2+ mile mark with my Cho Pat Dual Action Knee Straps that saved the day.

Sleeves were great.

 

[Dreamer2012]

[QUOTE="John . Thankfully we had our motor home in the EPCOT parking lot so I called DW on the phone and she met me at the entrance into EPCOT lot at 2+ mile mark with my Cho Pat Dual Action Knee Straps that saved the day.

Awww...John VN what a nice wife! !