Yes FoP is about 1400.I’ve heard 1800. Not sure, but FOP around 1400?
Yes FoP is about 1400.I’ve heard 1800. Not sure, but FOP around 1400?
Okay back to topic, sorry for the diversion, I’ve seen the 1,800 number thrown around and agree with your assessment of 1,260-1,680 in the real world operation. Do we know what the expectation is for RotR when that opens?Don’t think we have anything official but my understanding is 7 cockpits per turntable and 4 turntables - so at any one time you can have 6 x 7 x 4 = 168 people riding
If it is an 8 minute experience including loading/unloading that means 1,260 people per hour. If that is only 6 mins then would be 1,680. So i would think somewhere in that range which I think puts it around the same as FoP
You also have the two accessible cockpits. Those obviously won't be constantly loading but it helps in the overall scheme of load/unload.Don’t think we have anything official but my understanding is 7 cockpits per turntable and 4 turntables - so at any one time you can have 6 x 7 x 4 = 168 people riding
If it is an 8 minute experience including loading/unloading that means 1,260 people per hour. If that is only 6 mins then would be 1,680. So i would think somewhere in that range which I think puts it around the same as FoP
I believe RotR is supposed to be a bit higher. 2000ish?Okay back to topic, sorry for the diversion, I’ve seen the 1,800 number thrown around and agree with your assessment of 1,260-1,680 in the real world operation. Do we know what the expectation is for RotR when that opens?
You also have the two accessible cockpits. Those obviously won't be constantly loading but it helps in the overall scheme of load/unload.
I also believe this will be 5-6 minutes not 8.
Correct I see it as a side effect. My original post that got replied down (and lost in translation) was a reply to those who felt Disney it to would increase fairness of access to the ride. My point here was, as you said, that as a side effect and Disney likely has only made the change to control access to the land (and possible sell FastPass better to never offer it free then). The main point though, this fairness was a side point, was that in theory FastPass only significantly increases wait times if you assume a majority of those in the FastPass line wouldn’t ride.
Sorry I think my main point got watered down and lost (like a game of telephone) and I’m in agreement with this statement.
This absolutely true and a whole other debate if one even wants to open that can of worms, lol.
For rides with FP, I’ve always thought the majority of riders use a FP and standby riders are in the minority. Is that wrong?It's actually the opposite of your statement. With fp most people do longer waits and less people have shorter waits.
It really depends on how many people CHOOSE to go standby. Disney knows how many fps the release an hour but they have no way of knowing how many people decide to standby or else we wouldn't have multiple hour standby linesFor rides with FP, I’ve always thought the majority of riders use a FP and standby riders are in the minority. Is that wrong?
Yeah I thought this was correct too, and confirmed based on the comments on this thread, because it assumed 90% of the ride capacity an hour is assigned to FastPass. Thus I agree a majority of the people wait less time than the minority waiting a majority of the time.For rides with FP, I’ve always thought the majority of riders use a FP and standby riders are in the minority. Is that wrong?
Yes, but the ride capacity is fixed. If there are 1000 riders per hour and 600 FPs per hour, the standby riders will always be in the minority no matter how long the line is. I suppose one caveat is that after the park closes, whoever is still in the standby line gets to ride.It really depends on how many people CHOOSE to go standby. Disney knows how many fps the release an hour but they have no way of knowing how many people decide to standby or else we wouldn't have multiple hour standby lines
I wonder after official park close if they are operating rides at full capacity all them time. Does anyone know for sure if they have been doing this for FOP, considering it’s the newest popular ride? I’ve seen them run only half of Space Mountain at close in the past.Yes, but the ride capacity is fixed. If there are 1000 riders per hour and 600 FPs per hour, the standby riders will always be in the minority no matter how long the line is. I suppose the one caveat is that after the park closes, whoever is still in the standby line gets to ride.
Yeah I thought this was correct too, and confirmed based on the comments on this thread, because it assumed 90% of the ride capacity an hour is assigned to FastPass. Thus I agree a majority of the people wait less time than the minority waiting a majority of the time.
Yeah, in my opinion, the last part in bold won’t necessarily happen as I showed before. Everyone will just wait the same exact time as the standby line (maybe a bit less if some FastPass riders chose not to ride) currently. Though Disney can control access to the land which is a huge advantage to make that happen which will make things more enjoyable for all since nothing will be crowded if they do that.Yes, that’s exactly it .... but what I think they want is rather than only the people able to get FP going and only waiting 10 mins and then everyone else having to wait for the small %-age of riders that get on without FP and thus get like 8 hour waits and queues that line through the land
Instead 100% of the people wait 2 hours (or whatever) which the actual queue can handle
Yeah but I have never waited 2 hours for any ride and have no interest. We do not go to Disney frequently so I don't want to have to miss doing things because I am standing in line all day. Our first family trip was this past October....even though we had never used FP+ before I educated myself on here and consulted with a travel agent. We got Fastpasses for some of the headliners, stayed onsite, rope dropped, did extra magic hours once, rode FOP at closing and waited about 40 minutes, parkhopped, got a couple of FPs by refreshing and stood in standby lines that were reasonable. I hope it does not eventually come to everyone having to wait for hours to ride things. Although I do agree with them not offering FP right away for the one new GE ride but hope that eventually they will offer them for free like in the past.Yes, that’s exactly it .... but what I think they want is rather than only the people able to get FP going and only waiting 10 mins and then everyone else having to wait for the small %-age of riders that get on without FP and thus get like 8 hour waits and queues that line through the land
Instead 100% of the people wait 2 hours (or whatever) which the actual queue can handle
So just to review:theoretical capacity could get to near 1,800 but practicl is probably more in the 1,400-1,500 range
But there’s blue milk...So just to review:
Pandora opened with two attractions and had four hour plus waits on both attractions.
Galaxy's Edge, which I would expect to attract several times as many people as Pandora is opening with one attraction.
I've got a bad feeling about this.