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Other than the note on the official park hours page regarding EMH that only mentions special Pandora EMH at night 11-1, do we have reason to believe that Pandora will NOT be open during morning EMH?
 
I don't see a bathroom listed in the queue description above. I might wait a couple hours in line, but I would need a potty stop before I need a water refill. (I can carry water with me...) This queue doesn't sound like it allows a guest to leave for the restroom and return. I will need to use the standby line during our trip in May/June - Ideas?

good point. there is emergency exits though :) I'll ask about it tomorrow when I'm there.
 
Are FP available at 30 day mark for either of the new Pandora attractions?

What are the FP availability at 30 days for other premier/new attractions? i.e. are FPs available for SDMT at 30 days? Soarin?

I am trying to gauge if I stand a chance of getting a FP for either new Pandora attraction at
 
If you are not a resort guest ,your chances of riding this ride are slim. Otherwise you will wait all day
 

I read the article on Pandora for the Pooh Sized here and now I'm a little worried. Does anyone know what body dimensions make it difficult to fit in the ride? I'm hearing calf size and maybe waist size? Anyone have any more details on this? I'd look in that Pandora master thread, but it is WAY too long to try and find this info!
 
Sorry ahead of time for the length of this post, but it has been a long time coming.

I am not going to be trying to sway opinions in any way about this ride. It was constructed in such a way that it will provide for the greatest of rifts in opinions from those that ride it. The ride is not long, and that point alone generates polarity among opinions. All I can add is that there can definitely be a difference in viewing it on YouTube vs. actually having ridden it.

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I won't be putting a lot of photos here as it has already been video-taped and photographed to death. I included the above as an example of some of the Na'vi totem artwork that you can see in the queue. The queue area was supposed to have been constructed by the Na'vi, to allow you to have a point of entry into their culture and their world. That is why it appears much plainer compared to FoP. The design is intricate, however, and I can't imagine the amount of hours it took to hand weave everything. It is supposed to glow at night so I imagine that the queue will be neat to see after the sun sets.

The load area is a load area, so not much to see or report on. However, our group of 4 loved the design of the reed boats. The smaller size makes them more intimate which is fitting for this shorter ride profile.

The first thing that was interesting after the ride started was the argument over whether the first Na'vi character was a screen-based figure or an AA. My wife flat out refuses to believe it is a screen-based figure - but it is. This is where this gets interesting. My wife does not like Avatar in anyway. The other girl we were with had never seen it. And at this point we had already ridden the headliner FoP. I thought that they were going to be let down by this ride, along with my other friend.

Well...it was the exact opposite. They LOVED this ride (their reactions were great to see). They thought that the screens used for the animals, Na'vi, and general creation of depth within the rainforest were all excellent. They really liked the creatures that were hopping on the leaves overhead as they found the interaction of the projections and physical props to be truly convincing. The flora and all of the bioluminescent plants were astounding and well done. This ride really demonstrates the flaws and shortcomings of the Little Mermaid in NFL. There are no exposed areas in this ride. Every conceivable visible surface is beautiful and covered by something. Imagineering craftsmanship is on full display inside this ride.

And of course they were blown away by the Shaman of Songs. And this is one that didn't thoroughly impress me in the videos as it clearly did other people. And I thought on video her voice came off as jarring and not very enjoyable. In person though, those concerns were all washed away as her voice is much better balanced against the background chorus. I will also say that this AA actually conveys emotion in her face. The range of expressions possible by this figure is staggering. The denouement of this ride, however, is a little uninspiring; but at that point I simply closed my eyes and enjoyed the music until we unloaded. I was glad to hear echoes of James Horner's original soundtrack, as I personally loved it in the movie and it was so sad to hear of his untimely death prior to the completion of this land.

Overall, the four of us loved this ride, including the queue. And for full disclosure, I feel that it only stumbles a bit in the end. The screens though I thought were magnificently done. They were used with a degree of subtlety that I frankly really appreciated. FoP just clobbers you and all of your senses with a sledgehammer (as it should). This ride is a simple ride, where the Na'vi have given you a peak into their mysterious, bioluminescent world. And the screens are hidden within the plethora of physical sets and props, so that you are allowed glimpses of animals and Na'vi, some up close and some way off in the distance. Again, this is done to such great effect that it might not be appreciated by all, but I loved it. It really created the illusion that you were far removed from the familiar, and were given this opportunity for a quaint, private journey into the world of the Na'vi.
 
I read the article on Pandora for the Pooh Sized here and now I'm a little worried. Does anyone know what body dimensions make it difficult to fit in the ride? I'm hearing calf size and maybe waist size? Anyone have any more details on this? I'd look in that Pandora master thread, but it is WAY too long to try and find this info!
I just merged your thread because all the info is here, you can go back, maybe 10 pages and get a good idea
There are no clear dimensions as to who cannot ride. If you know of John Panda or Banks Lee (both very active bloggers in the Disney community) they both were able to ride.
Again you can read reports here
 
I read the article on Pandora for the Pooh Sized here and now I'm a little worried. Does anyone know what body dimensions make it difficult to fit in the ride? I'm hearing calf size and maybe waist size? Anyone have any more details on this? I'd look in that Pandora master thread, but it is WAY too long to try and find this info!

It is very hard to say what exactly and seems to be a mix of different things. You could be too big at your waste and then the back restraint doesn't click or you could be too big at your legs. Sometimes it is a length thing and sometimes a body proportion thing. Unfortunately unless someone is your exact body shape then no one will be able to say yes or no.
 
I'll be there, too!! You'll have to watch for me, and shout out if you see me! I'm easy to spot....I have red hair and am also rather rather pooh sized (and short!), and as I have no idea what @FastPasser looks like, I'll be scanning all the CM's nametags looking for 'NH', and muttering "Fastpasser...? Fastpasser, is that you??" at them.

I was thinking the same thing. I'll be walking around like a weirdo going FASTPASSER......is that you???? Tamiami!!!........where are you???? Dashcomplete!!!!!!!....is that you too?? HAHA

Sadly it looks like rain all afternoon. :( I've got the umbrellas ready. As much as pouring rain will make me cry, I will not let it get me down. I need this vacation so dang bad. I'm headed up tomorrow for a mental health retreat at my home the Wilderness Lodge. So ready!
 
It is possible that since this is suppose to be for resort guests that unlike other EMH they prevent non resort guest from coming into the land at all at first. It would be the first time they do it but it is possible with the nature of Pandora. We have to wait and see though.

though would they kick people out of the area if they are already in it? Either way, as long as the rides are limited to resort guests I think it will still be a nice perk for staying on site
 
though would they kick people out of the area if they are already in it? Either way, as long as the rides are limited to resort guests I think it will still be a nice perk for staying on site

No I don't think they would but I bet they will try to discourage entry if need be. I mean the fact they are doing the nightly EMH is totally new as I don't remember this happening even for NFL.
 
This may not be a popular opinion, but I actually hope that they make sure that hotel guests are able to ride FoP if they stay late for the EMH. I mean, what is the point of it if the rides are so full before it even starts that people who go for the EMH are shut out? And this is coming from someone who has no intention of riding FoP (motion sickness issues) and already has FPs for NRJ.
 
I read the article on Pandora for the Pooh Sized here and now I'm a little worried. Does anyone know what body dimensions make it difficult to fit in the ride? I'm hearing calf size and maybe waist size? Anyone have any more details on this? I'd look in that Pandora master thread, but it is WAY too long to try and find this info!


If you google "Banks Lee" you will see he posted on Twitter that the first time he did NOT fit on FoP. But he went back to try again and had a completely different experience. The second time he fit! He said there was plenty of room for his legs. He had no problem with the restraints closing at all the second time.

Unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult for the average park guest to get a second chance to try to ride FoP. Let alone, getting a first chance! Banks was fortunate to go for a media preview then a pass holder preview.

Knowing this, I would suggest if anyone doesn't fit on one bike, ask to wait and try another one.
 
Went today, 12-2 slot, will try and give my best recollection.

Got in line at 1030, were about 15 people back. Was surprised the line wasnt longer yet. Waited exactly half hour and got let in at 11. Asked about a FOP FP and they said they weren't giving out any-- it was all stand by. So ok, walked quickly right to FOP, got there at 1104, walked right on (after the looooong queue) and was inside the first waiting area before 1115. Nice! There was our party of 4, and 2 others in our whole area. Or I guess I should say our chamber, there couldve been more in the other half. No problems buckling in- one guy of the other 2 had a brief issue, the CM came over and quickly got him sorted.

Loved the ride! Soarin x15, but better. The "strobe" flashes in the beginning were ok, and completely to distract from the screen starting up. The ride was great, not jerky. I dont do roller coasters and dont even like mine train, but this was ok-- did get a tad vertigo-ish feeling but not bad. My cousin didnt like it and wouldnt ride again. It is super immersive, lots of feelings like air, smells, etc.

Got off and went ride to NRJ. Walked right on. I mean-right on. Boats were half empty. Very impressive, calming, enjoyable, fun for all. Rode immediately after a 2d time. That time saw people a few boats ahead stay on at end to ride right straight again.

Decided to then try and ride FOP again. Walked right in, got to the science area and then it all stopped. Realized after about 10 minutes there must be a problem with the ride. Waited total of about 20-25 minutes til the line started moving again. Then found out it was down to 1 of the areas- so once in the sorting line we waited another 15 minutes or so til we got in. Pre-show was different this time- longer, and different things discussed. Enjoyed ride 2d time as much if not more.

Got out, went thru store, walked around the paths another 15 minutes and we were done.

It was hot but shady areas were around, land is small but extremely cool. Go there as in all of DW with an open mind, suspend realism, and enjoy!!
 
There is a bathroom in Pandora.

I think just the seats move on FOP not the room. I decided to really focus on enjoying the experience and not look right/left etc, to see what could be seen. I could see the people on my right and left vaguely with my peripheral vision.

My cousin is 6'2 and had no problem at all fitting in. He has very big shoes and it was fine. My other cousin, 5', said she felt very pressed in by the back restraint, but I thought it was fine. Actually, the second time we rode, I enjoyed the pressure on my back since it was getting sore from walking and standing!

The first time we rode they asked if we had issues climbing stairs and sent us to a line up a flight of stairs. The second time, no questioning and we were sent to to the same area, and flight of stairs.
 
Sorry ahead of time for the length of this post, but it has been a long time coming.

I am not going to be trying to sway opinions in any way about this ride. It was constructed in such a way that it will provide for the greatest of rifts in opinions from those that ride it. The ride is not long, and that point alone generates polarity among opinions. All I can add is that there can definitely be a difference in viewing it on YouTube vs. actually having ridden it.

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I won't be putting a lot of photos here as it has already been video-taped and photographed to death. I included the above as an example of some of the Na'vi totem artwork that you can see in the queue. The queue area was supposed to have been constructed by the Na'vi, to allow you to have a point of entry into their culture and their world. That is why it appears much plainer compared to FoP. The design is intricate, however, and I can't imagine the amount of hours it took to hand weave everything. It is supposed to glow at night so I imagine that the queue will be neat to see after the sun sets.

The load area is a load area, so not much to see or report on. However, our group of 4 loved the design of the reed boats. The smaller size makes them more intimate which is fitting for this shorter ride profile.

The first thing that was interesting after the ride started was the argument over whether the first Na'vi character was a screen-based figure or an AA. My wife flat out refuses to believe it is a screen-based figure - but it is. This is where this gets interesting. My wife does not like Avatar in anyway. The other girl we were with had never seen it. And at this point we had already ridden the headliner FoP. I thought that they were going to be let down by this ride, along with my other friend.

Well...it was the exact opposite. They LOVED this ride (their reactions were great to see). They thought that the screens used for the animals, Na'vi, and general creation of depth within the rainforest were all excellent. They really liked the creatures that were hopping on the leaves overhead as they found the interaction of the projections and physical props to be truly convincing. The flora and all of the bioluminescent plants were astounding and well done. This ride really demonstrates the flaws and shortcomings of the Little Mermaid in NFL. There are no exposed areas in this ride. Every conceivable visible surface is beautiful and covered by something. Imagineering craftsmanship is on full display inside this ride.

And of course they were blown away by the Shaman of Songs. And this is one that didn't thoroughly impress me in the videos as it clearly did other people. And I thought on video her voice came off as jarring and not very enjoyable. In person though, those concerns were all washed away as her voice is much better balanced against the background chorus. I will also say that this AA actually conveys emotion in her face. The range of expressions possible by this figure is staggering. The denouement of this ride, however, is a little uninspiring; but at that point I simply closed my eyes and enjoyed the music until we unloaded. I was glad to hear echoes of James Horner's original soundtrack, as I personally loved it in the movie and it was so sad to hear of his untimely death prior to the completion of this land.

Overall, the four of us loved this ride, including the queue. And for full disclosure, I feel that it only stumbles a bit in the end. The screens though I thought were magnificently done. They were used with a degree of subtlety that I frankly really appreciated. FoP just clobbers you and all of your senses with a sledgehammer (as it should). This ride is a simple ride, where the Na'vi have given you a peak into their mysterious, bioluminescent world. And the screens are hidden within the plethora of physical sets and props, so that you are allowed glimpses of animals and Na'vi, some up close and some way off in the distance. Again, this is done to such great effect that it might not be appreciated by all, but I loved it. It really created the illusion that you were far removed from the familiar, and were given this opportunity for a quaint, private journey into the world of the Na'vi.

Thank you for the review. I watched the "highlights video" and loved the look of the ride but watched the full POV video today and was concerned about the length of the ride. I found it a little odd with the timing of the Shaman in the ride and what takes place afterwards. Your review eases it somewhat but I still wish it would be a little longer.
 
I'll be there, too!! You'll have to watch for me, and shout out if you see me! I'm easy to spot....I have red hair and am also rather rather pooh sized (and short!), and as I have no idea what @FastPasser looks like, I'll be scanning all the CM's nametags looking for 'NH', and muttering "Fastpasser...? Fastpasser, is that you??" at them.

That's not too far off from what I did, and it worked. :laughing:

If you are not a resort guest ,your chances of riding this ride are slim. Otherwise you will wait all day
There's always rope drop

I think Tusker House PPO ADRs will also be valuable for getting to Pandora ahead of the rope drop crowds for those who get the earliest seatings, eat quickly, and are willing to risk not seeing all of the characters.

There is a bathroom in Pandora.

There are at least two that I saw. However, I think the PP was talking about wanting one in the FoP standby queue.
 
I'll be there, too!! You'll have to watch for me, and shout out if you see me! I'm easy to spot....I have red hair and am also rather rather pooh sized (and short!), and as I have no idea what @FastPasser looks like, I'll be scanning all the CM's nametags looking for 'NH', and muttering "Fastpasser...? Fastpasser, is that you??" at them.
There are only a handful of CMs facilitating the entry process. I'll be among the first you see when you approach the courtyard area where check-in occurs. We're not Pandora CMs, so we have the standard WDW name tag and not the Pandora name tags.
I'll be there as well! Thanks @FastPasser. for all the insider info!
Due to the social media policy for CMs, I actually will not and do not post any insider info. It's all available to any website, and there are many, that have access to the internal CM website. I just get to see it before they do.
I was thinking the same thing. I'll be walking around like a weirdo going FASTPASSER......is that you???? Tamiami!!!........where are you???? Dashcomplete!!!!!!!....is that you too?? HAHA
As Beesly said, it worked for her. She found me and we had a nice chat before and after her preview.
Sadly it looks like rain all afternoon. :( I've got the umbrellas ready. As much as pouring rain will make me cry, I will not let it get me down.
It poured last Sat. too. Just embrace the experience.
I'm headed up tomorrow for a mental health retreat at my home the Wilderness Lodge. So ready!
My favorite resort and also my first assignment as a CM 100 years ago.
That's our AP window! See you there
I'll be there.
I think just the seats move on FOP not the room.
The 8 seats are mounted on a articulating platform inside the room which is separate from the room enclosure. That's where the motion occurs. If you look back after the initial drop, you'll see that the platform has dropped about 2 feet, see fuzzy photo.


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