***OFFICIAL*** October 2011 - Updated 10/08/11

Good Lord woman. I'm sending you some sanity!!!:scared1: and a big a$$ cocktail!!!:thumbsup2

I've not got any drama right now, but can I have a big a$$ cocktail, too?!:lmao:

Figment - I think you are in a very difficult place, but maybe you just do what you want and if they can keep up they can follow you around. If your ADRs are already made, just keep them and don't attempt to add the extra people. I don't know if that would be possible, or if it would cause friction with your DH, though. I hope you can find a way to enjoy your vacation despite them. Maybe consider them bullies and try not give them the satisfaction of seeing your frustration? :confused3

:grouphug:
 
I've not got any drama right now, but can I have a big a$$ cocktail, too?!:lmao:

Figment - I think you are in a very difficult place, but maybe you just do what you want and if they can keep up they can follow you around. If your ADRs are already made, just keep them and don't attempt to add the extra people. I don't know if that would be possible, or if it would cause friction with your DH, though. I hope you can find a way to enjoy your vacation despite them. Maybe consider them bullies and try not give them the satisfaction of seeing your frustration? :confused3

:grouphug:


lmc318 - I wish I had had a cocktail before bed last night, that way I may have been able to get a little sleep - however I didn't, and nor did I sleep.

im4kycats - That is what we have tried to explain to them is the way is will be - I have spent MONTHS making my plans, planning the details and the how, what & where....It is too late to change some things, nor I am going to b\c they decided now to go. My biggest issue is this.....

I can see that we would be in say Epcot, and it be time for our resort break around 2pm, we tell them we can meet them later after break and dinner at saw Magic Kingdom at 7pm. And here is what I see happening ....MIL "Oh come on, just walk over to China with us real fast...FIL Yeah, 15 more minutes won't hurt" Me "No, we have a plan and we need to stick to it, see you at 7pm....start to walk away (I just don't even argue with these people anymore) then FIL "Well, we wanted you to go so we could buy you ______, but NEVERMIND...........

I don't care what they try to manipulate me with, b\c I am an adult and I can still just walk away, my concern is my daughter. They do stuff like this to her whenever they can (we have limited contact) And they always say something they KNOW she would want.

My DH did call FIL last night, he tried to nicely discourage them from going to Disney (he kept talking about how much it is going to cost them, they LOVE money) and it kinda backfired on him. FIL TOTALLY worked him as only that man can.....he said, "we are just getting old, and this could be the last time we would be able to ever go to Disney and see our granddaughter there"
Yeah, DH is weak, and it totally got to him.....I pointed out (not so nicely)that his father had just played him like a piano.

I feel bad - DH love his parent's but he also knows how they are so he is in a hard spot.
 
Good Lord woman. I'm sending you some sanity!!!:scared1: and a big a$$ cocktail!!!:thumbsup2

I'm with Lisa on this one, figmentswife. OH, I feel so bad for you. But, hey, it will be Columbus Day weekend and maybe there will be no rooms available? We can all keep our fingers crossed that everything everywhere is sold out.

I am sorry for all the drama. I read your examples and was about to jump out of my skin. Witnessing at a funeral? OMG is all I can say!


OH!!! I forgot to look back: who posted Happy New Year two days ago? I totally forgot to say it back. Happy New Year (one of the three my family celebrates)!!!

I actually did get off my duff last night after watching Survivor and Criminal Minds on my DVR.....packing has commenced. The tolietries bag is almost completely done. It is missing hubby's contact stuff, but he will need that the morning we leave. The swimsuits are in as well as the kids' shorts/capris. I have to wash mine (I did wear two pair this week) and then I'll pack my capris. I have to go to Dick's Sporting Goods and get hubby a couple more pairs of shorts (he wears the LiveStrong basketball shorts); the pairs he has now are in sad, sad shape. I am trying not to pack too much (I am planning on doing laundry while we're down there) and I need to save room for hubby's and my pillows.

Hey, Terri, as for our schedule, here it is:
20th - arrive at MCO around 9:00, get car, check-in, go to DTD for lunch and window shopping, back to POR to relax
21st - MK (it's tradition - we ALWAYS start in MK) until about 5ish then on to EPCOT for Illuminations and munching around World Showcase. If we can get on Soarin' when we get there, great. If not, that's ok
22nd - DHS day. Not sure if we'll hop anywhere in the afternoon/evening or not
23rd - EPCOT.
24th -AK. Then I am going to surprise the older two by taking them to MK for evening EMH (until 1am :scared1:).
25th - our day off. I have a spa appointment for 9am. I want to take Amy and Kyle (separately) canoeing. And then dinner at California Grill to see Hallowishes
26th through 28th - hopping, hopping, hopping. We will have to be in EPCOT at 1pm on the 26th because we have a lunch reservation. And, knowing my family, we will spend all day in EPCOT. The 27th we have dinner reservations for Restaurant Marrakesh, so it will be back to EPCOT. But the 28th, we will probably hit all four parks. Yup, we're crazy like that!
29th - go home. :(

So, that's it. I will update as I tweak it. I will have time this afternoon when my end-of-month starts running. I have to check the park hours and make notes and then I'll see what's what.

Have a great day, everyone!!!
 
wanted to start packin this weekend but that's not going to happen we are suppose to have 80's next week better leave the shorts out for another week.
 

I've not got any drama right now, but can I have a big a$$ cocktail, too?!:lmao:

Why yes, yes you can! :drinking1

lmc318 - I wish I had had a cocktail before bed last night, that way I may have been able to get a little sleep - however I didn't, and nor did I sleep.

im4kycats - That is what we have tried to explain to them is the way is will be - I have spent MONTHS making my plans, planning the details and the how, what & where....It is too late to change some things, nor I am going to b\c they decided now to go. My biggest issue is this.....

I can see that we would be in say Epcot, and it be time for our resort break around 2pm, we tell them we can meet them later after break and dinner at saw Magic Kingdom at 7pm. And here is what I see happening ....MIL "Oh come on, just walk over to China with us real fast...FIL Yeah, 15 more minutes won't hurt" Me "No, we have a plan and we need to stick to it, see you at 7pm....start to walk away (I just don't even argue with these people anymore) then FIL "Well, we wanted you to go so we could buy you ______, but NEVERMIND...........

I don't care what they try to manipulate me with, b\c I am an adult and I can still just walk away, my concern is my daughter. They do stuff like this to her whenever they can (we have limited contact) And they always say something they KNOW she would want.

My DH did call FIL last night, he tried to nicely discourage them from going to Disney (he kept talking about how much it is going to cost them, they LOVE money) and it kinda backfired on him. FIL TOTALLY worked him as only that man can.....he said, "we are just getting old, and this could be the last time we would be able to ever go to Disney and see our granddaughter there"
Yeah, DH is weak, and it totally got to him.....I pointed out (not so nicely)that his father had just played him like a piano.

I feel bad - DH love his parent's but he also knows how they are so he is in a hard spot.

OK, I have issues with my in-laws, but they aren't nearly as bad as yours. Having said that, when I'm dealing with them, they feel that way. We are trying to get my in-laws to go to WDW in two years with us and they keep making excuses because they won't board their dogs. Pugs. Seriously? And we've told them you can bring them and stay at FWR and they are dodging it and now my MIL is in kidney failure sort of out of the blue and has to go on dialysis, so I'm sure that option is gone because as little as they traveled before, now it's going to be none. So as much as I try to get them to see their DGD, it'll be harder now. (ETA this makes me sound awful and that's not how I meant it. I wanted to note I do not begrudge her not traveling due to her kidney failure. She thinks she is going to be able to, but I know better. That was what was in my head when I wrote it, but for some reason I didn't type that. They don't travel now, so her saying she's going to be able to on dialysis, well, I know better. That was my point.) But that's my issue. Yours is different. The common denomonator is drama. Here's my suggestion. You're not going to stop them from coming if they want to come. What you can do is control your situation. Resolve that you will be the bad guy ("you want me to be the bad guy? Fine, now I'm the bad guy." :laughing:). In the situation you describe above about Epcot, you turn around and say to them politely, "You know what? That would be fantastic and I'm sure DD would love that, but could you either get it for her and bring it back to the resort or wait until the next time we are here? We really need to stick with the schedule or everyone will be miserable and we just don't want to ruin our time or your time later tonight by doing that." And then I'd give a nod and an OK and turn and walk away. Then you're not denying the gift buying to your daughter or your in-laws, your just asking them to respect your timeline. If they still put up a fuss then you just walk away and explain to your daughter that grandma and grandpa don't understand how tiring Disney can be and this rest time will be good for them too. That grandpa needs it because of his hip and he's trying to do too much and you need to do this to get him to slow down. That it's not all about gifts. It's a lesson learned moment. You don't ever want to talk bad about the grandparents, but if they are using gifts to manipulate to the point where it is interrupting your life and causing issues, then sometimes you need to bring that up with the kids. Avoid the issue whenever possible, but be honest when you can't avoid it. So that's my suggestion. Be the bad guy, but with a smile on your face. :angel: And remember it is your vacation. YOUR vacation. Treat them as gnats. Things that are annoying and there but that you can't let ruin your vacation. OK, maybe gnats was a bad metaphor, but you know what I mean. :laughing:

Hey, Terri, as for our schedule, here it is:
20th - arrive at MCO around 9:00, get car, check-in, go to DTD for lunch and window shopping, back to POR to relax
21st - MK (it's tradition - we ALWAYS start in MK) until about 5ish then on to EPCOT for Illuminations and munching around World Showcase. If we can get on Soarin' when we get there, great. If not, that's ok
22nd - DHS day. Not sure if we'll hop anywhere in the afternoon/evening or not
23rd - EPCOT.
24th -AK. Then I am going to surprise the older two by taking them to MK for evening EMH (until 1am :scared1:).
25th - our day off. I have a spa appointment for 9am. I want to take Amy and Kyle (separately) canoeing. And then dinner at California Grill to see Hallowishes
26th through 28th - hopping, hopping, hopping. We will have to be in EPCOT at 1pm on the 26th because we have a lunch reservation. And, knowing my family, we will spend all day in EPCOT. The 27th we have dinner reservations for Restaurant Marrakesh, so it will be back to EPCOT. But the 28th, we will probably hit all four parks. Yup, we're crazy like that!
29th - go home. :(

So, that's it. I will update as I tweak it. I will have time this afternoon when my end-of-month starts running. I have to check the park hours and make notes and then I'll see what's what.

Have a great day, everyone!!!

So we're there the entire week together?? I thought you were leaving in the middle of the week for some reason. Ha! Well we'll definitely meet up at Epcot on the 23rd for that margarita! Tequila is in my future!!! :thumbsup2

Since everyone is sharing, I'll share about my little family. There are only 3 of us. I'm Lisa, DH is Sean and DD is Katherine. I love all rides but since having Katherine, I get a little motion sickness on spinny rides. I don't care though, I still go on them. It's not enough to make me sick. I go on Mission: Space orange. I go on RnRC, ToT, any of the mountains, although to be honest, old roller coasters give me headaches because of the bouncing, so BTMRR sort of does that. And Splash Mountain is annoying since they changed it so you DEFINITELY get wet every time. I want it to be a surprise. Maybe you do, maybe you don't. I don't want basically a bucket of water dumped on me. DH doesn't care for rides as much as I do, but he'll go on some. He gets motion sickness so he doesn't do intense spinny rides like MS Orange, but he'll do green (boring!). I wonder how I would do on MS now that I get migraines. I never thought of that. I know that's a warning. Oh well, only one way to find out!!! Anyway, DH will do less intense rides like Test Track and BTMRR and such, but he has to take Dramamine first. :laughing: DD is new to rides. The only one she's been on without a parent is a little car ride on OCNJ with her cousins. She loved it and I think she'll love rides, but she's an only child, so she hasn't been brave enough to go alone yet. I think Disney will be great for her because we can go on everything with her and it's more than just boardwalk rides.

Here are our plans, loosely. We stick to parks around our ADRs, but other than that we go with the flow:

Day 1 (10/23) - Arrive at 2:15PM. ME to Poly.
La Hacienda de San Angel (4:50PM)

Day 2 - MK day/nap/MK eve
Tony's dinner (5:30)

Day 3 - Akershus breakfast (8:30)
Epcot Day/nap
MNSSHP Night

Day 4 - Tusker House breakfast (8:40)
AK day
1900 PF dinner (5:00)
open night

Day 5 – Open Day
nap/pool
Open night

Day 6 - HS day
Epcot Night
Kona cafe dinner (5:30)

Day 7 - Downtown Disney
4:14 flight home (ME by 1PM)

Oh, and 23 days!! 3 weeks from Sunday!!!! :banana: :banana:
 
well i fell off the face of the earth again. LOL! back trying to catch up on this thread! just popping in to say hi- only 14 days to go for us. Can't wait! :thumbsup2
 
Figmentswife: At first, I thought you were totally over telling about your inlaws. I thought "it can't possibly be that bad". I have since changed my mind. My hat's off to you for not driving them to the cliffs. People can truly be "that bad". Good luck and sending much pixie dust and patience your way.


Does anyone know about airline online check in? Can someone explain how baggage check works with that?
 
I have done online airline check-in. It was Delta, and when you go online you tell them how many bags you have. You can print your boarding pass and then when you get to the airport you can either check you bags at the curb side check in, if you have them, or get tags at the kisok. I fly in and out of Atlanta so we have curb side check in here. It was a piece of cake, now security check point is a different story. :rotfl2:
 
Figmentswife: At first, I thought you were totally over telling about your inlaws. I thought "it can't possibly be that bad". I have since changed my mind. My hat's off to you for not driving them to the cliffs. People can truly be "that bad". Good luck and sending much pixie dust and patience your way.


Does anyone know about airline online check in? Can someone explain how baggage check works with that?

I do online check in all the time. It's pretty easy. What you do with the bags is you either drop them off with the sky cap or some airlines have inside drop off points. For example, last time I flew United, they had kiosks inside where you could print out tags for your luggage and leave them on the stand and someone behind the counter would take the bag and put them on the belt. They person was working to move the bags for all of the luggage points, so that's all they were doing. They would also help if you needed help. You would just go up to the kiosk, enter the card you used to buy the ticket and it would print out your luggage tags. You then put them around the handles of your bags just like the ticketing agents normally do and they guy behind the counter eventaually takes them and puts them on the belt. If they are overweight, there is usually a scale there to check. If you aren't honest and they find out, they charge your card, so it's best just to be up front about it. If kiosks aren't your thing, use the sky cap. They'll handle the luggage for you and then you can just walk straight to the gate. The sky cap will give you whatever extra paperwork you need, if any, like gate information and such. Pretty easy. :thumbsup2

TA called. MICKEY MAIL IS HERE!!!!! We're stopping by tomorrow to pick it up on the way to some outlet shopping!!!! :cool1:
 
Figmentswife: At first, I thought you were totally over telling about your inlaws. I thought "it can't possibly be that bad". I have since changed my mind. My hat's off to you for not driving them to the cliffs. People can truly be "that bad". Good luck and sending much pixie dust and patience your way.


Does anyone know about airline online check in? Can someone explain how baggage check works with that?

It kind of depends on the airline. I fly SW, so I do online check in and then I check my bags at the curb then you can go in and straight to security. Online check-in gives me my boarding pass, which you will need to check your bags. Clear as mud?:confused3 Think of it as two separate check-ins: one for you and one for your bags. If you do not do online check in, I think you have to go in with your bags and go to the airline counter to get both check-ins before moving on to security. :thumbsup2
 
Figment..I am so sorry you are dealing with all of this stress:grouphug:

2 weeks from today I will be getting on the autotrain:banana::banana:

My daughter's 5th birthday party is tomorrow and then I can really start getting ready.

I have one dilemma...help a girl out..I need opinions.

My girls really want to go to Chef Mickeys....my husband really hates it there. I have it booked for our last night which I booked 6 months ago. He would rather go to Garden Grill at the Swan and Dolphin. It also has characters and the food is supposed to be really good. Friday nights are their seafood nights which means all you can eat snow crab legs which our my and my girls favorites!!! But they really want Chef Mickeys. Hubby thinks we are the adults and they do what we want....but I think we should just suck it up and go ot Chef Mickey's...what do you think?
 
Thanks for all of the thoughts and pixie dust.

They are just hard to deal with. They have pushed everyone in the family (both sides) away with their lies and drama. MIL's family hasn't spoken to her in about 2 years b\c of FIL. and FIL's family hasn't spoken to him in about 15 years. Their daughter moved to California to get away from them. DH is about the only one who talks to them cause he is the "good boy" and he loves them b\c they are his parent's. He is not blind to them AT ALL - he just is able to ignore them, and I just can't.

DH and I talked about it over & over again last night and again this morning, and if they decide to go, then they go. We will turn OFF DH's cell phone, that way they will have to contact ME if they want to know where we are and what we are doing. We will let them know what the plan is for the following day and what time we will be at what park, and we will give them a 10 minute window, then we will go about our way with or without them.

DH is VERY sure that they will NOT go b\c they will not want to spend the money - considering that they told him they are having a yard sale this weekend to pay the medical bills. (another drama moment - they have money, but if you met them you would think they were on skid row)

I can handle them and keep myself in check, as I have done for years. I just don't want to deal with the drama that I KNOW they will cause with DH (FIL likes to point out to him that he is not man enough, or the head of our house for things like - I pay the bills, I do most of the driving...you know women shouldn't do these things) and the drama they could cause DD.

Sorry for the venting -

Congrats to all that went this week or are leaving soon. I have started packing and our shirts are made. Now to go fix food for 9 teenage boys that are outside practicing for their drill meet tomorrow GO NC939 Drill Team!!!! We will be at NCSU all day tomorrow for the compitition.

By the way....this time next Friday(2:15pm) we will only have about 2 more hours of driving until we make it DISNEY WORLD!!!!!
 
Figment..I am so sorry you are dealing with all of this stress:grouphug:

2 weeks from today I will be getting on the autotrain:banana::banana:

My daughter's 5th birthday party is tomorrow and then I can really start getting ready.

I have one dilemma...help a girl out..I need opinions.

My girls really want to go to Chef Mickeys....my husband really hates it there. I have it booked for our last night which I booked 6 months ago. He would rather go to Garden Grill at the Swan and Dolphin. It also has characters and the food is supposed to be really good. Friday nights are their seafood nights which means all you can eat snow crab legs which our my and my girls favorites!!! But they really want Chef Mickeys. Hubby thinks we are the adults and they do what we want....but I think we should just suck it up and go ot Chef Mickey's...what do you think?

since i have not eatten at either place my vote would be for all the seafood (crab legs) my stomach could handle. :rotfl2:
 
They just called and asked for the TA phone number again......I guess they ARE going....this is about to drive me crazy.

Send me that cocktail now please!!!!!!
 
Figment..I am so sorry you are dealing with all of this stress:grouphug:

2 weeks from today I will be getting on the autotrain:banana::banana:

My daughter's 5th birthday party is tomorrow and then I can really start getting ready.

I have one dilemma...help a girl out..I need opinions.

My girls really want to go to Chef Mickeys....my husband really hates it there. I have it booked for our last night which I booked 6 months ago. He would rather go to Garden Grill at the Swan and Dolphin. It also has characters and the food is supposed to be really good. Friday nights are their seafood nights which means all you can eat snow crab legs which our my and my girls favorites!!! But they really want Chef Mickeys. Hubby thinks we are the adults and they do what we want....but I think we should just suck it up and go ot Chef Mickey's...what do you think?

Is it just you three? I was thinking you and your girl can do CM while DH does something else (maybe golf or fish).
 
Figment..I am so sorry you are dealing with all of this stress:grouphug:

2 weeks from today I will be getting on the autotrain:banana::banana:

My daughter's 5th birthday party is tomorrow and then I can really start getting ready.

I have one dilemma...help a girl out..I need opinions.

My girls really want to go to Chef Mickeys....my husband really hates it there. I have it booked for our last night which I booked 6 months ago. He would rather go to Garden Grill at the Swan and Dolphin. It also has characters and the food is supposed to be really good. Friday nights are their seafood nights which means all you can eat snow crab legs which our my and my girls favorites!!! But they really want Chef Mickeys. Hubby thinks we are the adults and they do what we want....but I think we should just suck it up and go ot Chef Mickey's...what do you think?

This may help you decide - Restaurant.com offers discounted restaurant gift certificates (including many of the Disney World Swan/Dolphin hotel restaurants), plus use code WOW and get an extra 90% off already discounted certificates. Get a $25 certificate for $1! Expires 9/30/11. Click here to learn more about these certificates.

I just checked and Garden Grove IS on the list $25 cert for $15 then 90% off = $1.50 for $25 off your meal.
 
Examples: They ask who would get my kids if something happened to me and DH and we told them MY parents....response - my parent's were not Christian enough???? They then asked if they could at least have my daughter (my son is from 1st husband) WHO DOES THAT???
They went to a funeral of a friend of DH's and "witnessed" to a 22 year old and told her she was headed for hell b\c her first response to the "who is the most important person in your life" question wasn't jesus (she said her family) and that girl past away in a terrible accident a year later - DH's friend called and said "please keep your parent's away from the funeral, no one wants them there"

Wow! And I thought I had a dysfunctional family. That's just so beyond horrible.

Wishing you luck in dealing with this. I'm a firm believer that the word "family" means "people that other people think you should be nice to". I split with parts of my family years ago; best thing I ever did. My current family includes people who are not even related to me (like DSis) but they're the people that I care about and that love and support me. Of course, i'm incredibly fortunate to adore my in-laws. In fact, i'm planning to take them on their first trip to Disney World next Christmas. But honestly, it wasn't until I met them, that I realized how seriously screwed up my own family was.

Life is too short to spend it with people that treat you badly and make you unhappy. Hope it works out. :wizard:
 
I don't care what they try to manipulate me with, b\c I am an adult and I can still just walk away, my concern is my daughter. They do stuff like this to her whenever they can (we have limited contact) And they always say something they KNOW she would want.

I totally get this. This is what caused me to break with my father and his family completely. I saw what happened to my niece and nephew. They were manipulated and then let down. When my son was born, I knew there was no way I was subjecting him to that. He has plenty of "family" that love him; he doesn't need to know people that don't have his best interests at heart.

But I realize it's hard when it's not your own family. That's a decision that only your DH can make, and unfortunately it's one that most people never even realize they can make.

:hug:
 












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