******Official 2017 Free Dining Plan Watch, Wait, and Dream

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I don't the no they were being negative, just realistic. While most people on these boards understand how free dining works, there are some who still don't get it. I had to explain to my mom last night that is already having a package booked DOES NOT give us a leg up on free dining over those who haven't booked. I still don't think she understands that if there's no inventory for a resort or room category, you can't just apply free dining because you're already booked at that resort and room category.

I can understand how many people who don't get free dining probably complain to their travel agents about how it's unfair and they SHOULD HAVE got it. I think he was just trying to be realistic in his podcast that we don't even know IF it will be offered let alone when, and too many people book expecting they will get it, without understanding they may not get it for a multitude of reasons.

Yeah I think this is where their pain comes from. Free dining is a pain in the **** for them to deal with. I don't blame them on that front. It's not the only discount and if I don't get it then I'll get something else. I even ran the numbers today of just keeping my ressie as is and adding DDP to it and I can live with that as well. Would like to get some money off but no matter what it's been 3 years and I'm going!!
 
Did you have the wanna get away fare or anytime fare? I have some credit but they didn't refund mine.
It was the least expensive fare (whatever they call it - can't remember). I have no idea why they credited back my credit card but I was happy. It gave me the option when I made the change. I had never seen that before with SW. Hoping maybe it is something new.
 
First time trying to book FD so this might be a dumb question, but historically have the bounceback dates been pretty similar to what ended up being offered?
Historically there is some overlap but more dates for general public especially later in the year.
 

question how do you who have Disney visa, find out that the fd thing is out for you? I know someone said it didn't matter last year it all came out on the same day. But I would like to know since I have the Visa just in case.
 
I just hope if it's even close to bb dates with pop warner there week prior it doesn't increase crowds a lot - I was there last December 14-19 and that Saturday in mk was a nightmare and our last day was pretty hectic - also made the mistake of going to ds sat night - never again.
 
Hard to tell if hotels are actually booking up or not. My TA was able to book a room that Disney website said was unavailable for the dates I wanted. Odd
 
Was able to snag a ROL at TH for 9:20 on 9/16!! Worked perfectly for our current schedule. Pretty happy! What time would the "1st showing" be? It says AK is open until 9pm, anyone know what time ROL usually is? How early do you usually have to arrive to ROL when you have the dining package?
 
Following...Planning to go 9/24-9/28-hoping heavily for FD. Would it be best if I go ahead and book for POP in case the rooms fill up for the FD offer?

Ok, so here's the deal. Are you going regardless if FD drops or not? If yes, I'd say book now. If you're only going if they offer FD, then wait. Keep in mind, they keep making it tougher and tougher to qualify for FD and limiting the number and kind of rooms eligible. Once FD drops the rooms fly off the shelves like milk and bread before a blizzard.

I'm booked for POP 9/24-9/26. Maybe I'll see you there! :wave2:
 
question how do you who have Disney visa, find out that the fd thing is out for you? I know someone said it didn't matter last year it all came out on the same day. But I would like to know since I have the Visa just in case.
Usually there are rumors and I start calling in the mornings at 7 am. For our trip two months ago, I believe I called three mornings in a row with the cast member telling me to keep calling each morning. On the third morning it was released.
 
What site did you see this on? I feel like there is so much conflicting information/speculation about fall occupancy rates. Tom Bricker (who I followed last year and he was spot on with all predictions) posted on his Facebook page last night that occupancy rates for the rest of the year are down.

Saw my name pop up via a Google alert (I swear I'm not self-obsessed :rolleyes1) and thought I'd offer some clarification...

The last reliable info I received on occupancy rates was just prior to the big marketing blitz on ABC for Pandora, and at that point, occupancy rates were most definitely down for summer and beyond.

Whether they still are depends at least in part on the efficacy of that marketing. Based upon promos we've since seen released and the state of several key global markets, I'm inclined to believe the Pandora marketing has not moved the needle too much. (Disney's online booking system is not exactly the best, and I would not recommend surmising anything about occupancy based on searches.)

What, I think, will have the potential to move the needle more for fall/winter bookings is the actual opening of Pandora and buzz that results from that. This is why I would not be shocked if Disney did a bifurcated Free Dining release, or initially holds back some room inventory for later FD dates until they can gauge buzz and see how room sales are without the discount. (Note: neither of these possibilities are based on solid intel; just what I could see happening...)
 
I just hope if it's even close to bb dates with pop warner there week prior it doesn't increase crowds a lot - I was there last December 14-19 and that Saturday in mk was a nightmare and our last day was pretty hectic - also made the mistake of going to ds sat night - never again.

Oh I need to look at my plans for avoiding DS on saturdays.
 
Saw my name pop up via a Google alert (I swear I'm not self-obsessed :rolleyes1) and thought I'd offer some clarification...

The last reliable info I received on occupancy rates was just prior to the big marketing blitz on ABC for Pandora, and at that point, occupancy rates were most definitely down for summer and beyond.

Whether they still are depends at least in part on the efficacy of that marketing. Based upon promos we've since seen released and the state of several key global markets, I'm inclined to believe the Pandora marketing has not moved the needle too much. (Disney's online booking system is not exactly the best, and I would not recommend surmising anything about occupancy based on searches.)

What, I think, will have the potential to move the needle more for fall/winter bookings is the actual opening of Pandora and buzz that results from that. This is why I would not be shocked if Disney did a bifurcated Free Dining release, or initially holds back some room inventory for later FD dates until they can gauge buzz and see how room sales are without the discount. (Note: neither of these possibilities are based on solid intel; just what I could see happening...)
Fingers crossed they don't wait; thanks for the info :) Any theories on if they will let us use the GC and the FD for CBR?
 
Saw my name pop up via a Google alert (I swear I'm not self-obsessed :rolleyes1) and thought I'd offer some clarification...

The last reliable info I received on occupancy rates was just prior to the big marketing blitz on ABC for Pandora, and at that point, occupancy rates were most definitely down for summer and beyond.

Whether they still are depends at least in part on the efficacy of that marketing. Based upon promos we've since seen released and the state of several key global markets, I'm inclined to believe the Pandora marketing has not moved the needle too much. (Disney's online booking system is not exactly the best, and I would not recommend surmising anything about occupancy based on searches.)

What, I think, will have the potential to move the needle more for fall/winter bookings is the actual opening of Pandora and buzz that results from that. This is why I would not be shocked if Disney did a bifurcated Free Dining release, or initially holds back some room inventory for later FD dates until they can gauge buzz and see how room sales are without the discount. (Note: neither of these possibilities are based on solid intel; just what I could see happening...)
That makes me fell a little better I keep doing searchs and finding less each week. Hopeful availability is better than what the site is saying.
 
Saw my name pop up via a Google alert (I swear I'm not self-obsessed :rolleyes1) and thought I'd offer some clarification...

The last reliable info I received on occupancy rates was just prior to the big marketing blitz on ABC for Pandora, and at that point, occupancy rates were most definitely down for summer and beyond.

Whether they still are depends at least in part on the efficacy of that marketing. Based upon promos we've since seen released and the state of several key global markets, I'm inclined to believe the Pandora marketing has not moved the needle too much. (Disney's online booking system is not exactly the best, and I would not recommend surmising anything about occupancy based on searches.)

What, I think, will have the potential to move the needle more for fall/winter bookings is the actual opening of Pandora and buzz that results from that. This is why I would not be shocked if Disney did a bifurcated Free Dining release, or initially holds back some room inventory for later FD dates until they can gauge buzz and see how room sales are without the discount. (Note: neither of these possibilities are based on solid intel; just what I could see happening...)
Thanks for the reply. You helped me snag free dining with no issues last year so I value your input...which is why I mentioned you here. Hope you didn't inturpret what I said as negative, as I meant it as a positive for you and the value of the info you have provided me in the past :) keep up the great work!
 
Are they going to force me to use a TA? Lol!!!
Or maybe just call ::yes:: I thought it was a good idea to use a TA bc we're also doing a Universal package. I was wrong tho. I should've done it myself. :headache:Giving up control is torture for this type A personality!! At least I was able to link my reservation to MDE and book my own ADRs!:)
 
Saw my name pop up via a Google alert (I swear I'm not self-obsessed :rolleyes1) and thought I'd offer some clarification...

The last reliable info I received on occupancy rates was just prior to the big marketing blitz on ABC for Pandora, and at that point, occupancy rates were most definitely down for summer and beyond.

Whether they still are depends at least in part on the efficacy of that marketing. Based upon promos we've since seen released and the state of several key global markets, I'm inclined to believe the Pandora marketing has not moved the needle too much. (Disney's online booking system is not exactly the best, and I would not recommend surmising anything about occupancy based on searches.)

What, I think, will have the potential to move the needle more for fall/winter bookings is the actual opening of Pandora and buzz that results from that. This is why I would not be shocked if Disney did a bifurcated Free Dining release, or initially holds back some room inventory for later FD dates until they can gauge buzz and see how room sales are without the discount. (Note: neither of these possibilities are based on solid intel; just what I could see happening...)
Thanks for checking in with us, your intel is only one of a few that I've come to continuously trust over the years, I get about 9000 emails a day and I actually get excited to read your updates.....Great work!!!
 
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